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fong posted:I've been playing BG2 since it came out, I don't know how many times I've been through SOA, and I don't think I've ever done Cernd's quest. I know it has something to do with a house in the docks district? You rescue him from the weird wizard in the sewers, he gives you a gem, you take the gem to the theatre basement, it opens a gate, cern and theatre company get captured, you chase after them and fight through a prison, then when you rescue them they go back to Sigil and Cernd stays in the bridge district. Fun amount of XP, all told.
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cernd is the druid not the bard
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Apr 29, 2016 15:13
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LowellDND posted:You rescue him from the weird wizard in the sewers, he gives you a gem, you take the gem to the theatre basement, it opens a gate, cern and theatre company get captured, you chase after them and fight through a prison, then when you rescue them they go back to Sigil and Cernd stays in the bridge district. Fun amount of XP, all told. That's Haer'Delis. Cernd is the druid you get in Trademeet. His personal quest is that he finds out he's a father
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Apr 29, 2016 15:14
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do I lose anything by running dynaheir straight into gnolls? I really like minsc but dynaheir kinda sucks my party is: khalid jaheira viconia imoen archer protagonist minsc I want to kill dynaheir also I should probably get a mage in there somewhere right?
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Apr 29, 2016 15:16
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Mortimer posted:do I lose anything by running dynaheir straight into gnolls? I really like minsc but dynaheir kinda sucks If you're playing the EE, there's a Wild Mage called Neera that you can pick up in Beregost.
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Apr 29, 2016 15:23
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Rahzmataz posted:If you're playing the EE, there's a Wild Mage called Neera that you can pick up in Beregost. who should I replace? I met her and she's way off in the inn I think because I dismissed her
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Apr 29, 2016 15:26
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I'm inclined to say Khalid. Jaheira and Vic can tank well enough. It's kind of a tricky one though.
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Apr 29, 2016 15:33
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MrL_JaKiri posted:That's Haer'Delis. Cernd is the druid you get in Trademeet. Aha. Then I have never done that one either 
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Apr 29, 2016 16:11
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anomen is far more tolerable and entertaining as a broken man, for what it's worth.
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Apr 29, 2016 16:48
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Hollismason posted:Wow, Cernd is a complete poo poo head rear end in a top hat. I just did his personal quest line. Bear feeding time as soon as I find a decent replacement. Why do you want to feed him to bears. Just kick him out of the group. Go grab Yoshimo I say because your party needs a thief.
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I think Hollismason's main is a Fighter/Thief, so the only thing that party lacks is a fully leveling Mage, and having one is not outright required for vanilla.Mortimer posted:do I lose anything by running dynaheir straight into gnolls? I really like minsc but dynaheir kinda sucks  Also, Dynaheir has issues early on because nothing can replace Sleep as a first level spell, but as soon as she reaches level 3 and can cast two Glitterdust/Horror/Stinking Cloud/Web that doesn't hurt so much anymore. And soon enough Sleep is useless anyway. I think you can safely kick anyone except Imoen, but Khalid or Jaheira moreso than Viconia.
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Wizard Styles posted:You can just leave her in a nice house somewhere you know. Except Minsc demands that he be with dynaheir, and I'd rather have Neera if I need a mage Archer Protag Minsc 2H / slings Jaheira Melee druid Viconia cleric Imoen thief? Neera Mage is that a balanced party? Maybe minsc 1h + shield might make more sense. It's between having a mage in Neera or a good front liner in Ajantis. Can I turn Imoen into a mage?
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Apr 29, 2016 18:33
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If you get off the map Dynaheir's on before she gets a chance to talk to you or she dies, Minsc will stay.
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Apr 29, 2016 18:34
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Cernd is the shittiest companion. In his quest you find out He knocked his wife up , leaves her, and then finds out about the kid after his wife dies under mysterious circumstances. Then he gets the kid back from his wife's new husband, renames the boy a woman's name, then decides that instead of raising him he instead just leaves him to be raised by druids and goes off adventuring with you. He literally abandons his child twice. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Apr 29, 2016 |
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Apr 29, 2016 21:15
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Hollismason posted:He knocks his wife up , leaves her, and then finds out about the kid after his wife dies under mysterious circumstances. Then he gets the kid back from his wife's new husband, renames the boy a woman's name, then decides that instead of raising him he instead just leaves him to be raised by druids and goes off adventuring with you. Wait until you see his epilogue in Throne of Bhaal.
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Apr 29, 2016 21:18
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Cernd is awesome because he's a good reminder that druids are untrustworthy pieces of poo poo.
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Apr 29, 2016 21:54
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Jaheira's a druid and she's trustworthy. The Harpers are a dumb loving organization, though.
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The romance is creepyish but I won't let anyone besmirch Jaheira.
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Apr 29, 2016 22:10
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True Neutral is basically ultra-evil
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Apr 29, 2016 22:24
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Playing a True Neutral character in a video game is always loads of fun. Killing the evil wizard shifted your alignment towards Good? Better make up for it by stomping on some innocent peasants.
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Apr 29, 2016 22:46
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Samuel Clemens posted:Playing a True Neutral character in a video game is always loads of fun. Killing the evil wizard shifted your alignment towards Good? Better make up for it by stomping on some innocent peasants. I think the player's handbook description of true neutral contained an example of a character that helped a village under attack by trolls, only to switch to the trolls' side once the village begins to win. True Neutral as described was just loving insane.
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Alignments are not a great role-playing tool, no one has such a fixed world view or rigorous code of ethics (apart maybe from paladins?). But I don't think true neutral is so insane as a general moral code. It makes sense as a druid, like with the trolls example they might defend the village but if the villagers then wanted to go find the troll den and wipe them out the druid would change sides. Or possibly they'd investigate and find that the trolls were starving and would let them kill and eat the villagers. Thats how I'd write it at least. That'd be a hosed up and inexplicable thing for most non-druid human characters to do though, so it's less about alignment, really.
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Hollismason posted:Cernd is the shittiest companion. In his quest you find out He knocked his wife up , leaves her, and then finds out about So basically he's Worf. Anyway, I played around with assassin/fighter on the tab and enjoyed that. Poison darts are freaking brutal. Sephiroth_IRA fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Apr 30, 2016 |
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Apr 30, 2016 00:29
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Wow, I did not realize that all of your buff spells affected your summons. Just destroyed the Planar Prison with Hasted Fire Elementals.
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:So basically he's Worf. I tried Fighter/Thief and found it really fun, but I got kinda tired of stealth-sneak-position-stab over and over. In my current game my PC is a FMT, but i'm essentially using him as a Fighter with Trapfinding for now. Neera is handling all the spells, at least until the PC hits Mage level 3. Hollismason posted:Wow, I did not realize that all of your buff spells affected your summons. Just destroyed the Planar Prison with Hasted Fire Elementals. Wait, for real? Had no idea about that.
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:So basically he's Worf. I laughed way too hard at this. Would it be cheating to "reroute" the Underdark teleporter to the Sahuagin City? The game wants you to work with Saemon, content and time wise, but I can find no justification for trusting him, even if Yoshimo poisons you instead. You've just found out that Irenicus geas' his servants, after all- who's to say he's not going to sink the ship once you're far enough out at sea? Hopefully Claire and Golin still being on the docks is some kind of bug- I can't even ask them for transport to the mainland, I'd accept a "No room" excuse. And would a pirate crew really be suicidal enough to try to rob people as heavily armed with the kind of magic that could destroy their boat as you?
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AngryBooch posted:I think the player's handbook description of true neutral contained an example of a character that helped a village under attack by trolls, only to switch to the trolls' side once the village begins to win. True Neutral as described was just loving insane. It was actually Gnolls but yeah this was described in 2e. After 2e True Neutral was described as being the alignment most people have. But it mentions also the crazy obsessed with Balance version as fitting under it as well. I am reminded of Mordenkainen. Who was also balance obsessed. He eventually found records that an evil demon was trapped in Castle Greyhawk. Feeling that good had become too strong he decided to free it and tricked his ally Lord Robilar into going and freeing it under the pretense of slaying it. However it turned out Mordenkainen was wrong and it was not a Demon at all. It was the Evil Demigod of Pain and Oppression Iuz who upon being freed went back to his old empire and built a road out of the skulls of all of his subjects that had turned away from him or lost faith. Then he got back to spreading war and death with his massive evil empire. Mordenkainen felt super guilty about this and became a full time good guy feeling that was the only way to rebalance everything after letting lose such a horrible evil. fong posted:Alignments are not a great role-playing tool, no one has such a fixed world view or rigorous code of ethics (apart maybe from paladins?). But I don't think true neutral is so insane as a general moral code. It makes sense as a druid, like with the trolls example they might defend the village but if the villagers then wanted to go find the troll den and wipe them out the druid would change sides. Or possibly they'd investigate and find that the trolls were starving and would let them kill and eat the villagers. Thats how I'd write it at least. That'd be a hosed up and inexplicable thing for most non-druid human characters to do though, so it's less about alignment, really. Trolls can literally eat themselves and be fine. I don't think it's possible for a troll to be starving.
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Kavak posted:I laughed way too hard at this. But if you don't do that you don't get the Silver blade.
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I'm only in Chapter 2 , but where's a good place to buy great weapons/armor ? I've got like 55,000 gold now. Uh should probably get Immoen at some point.
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MonsterEnvy posted:But if you don't do that you don't get the Silver blade. Imoen cast EDIT: ^^^^^ Do you have the bonus merchants pack?
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Kavak posted:Imoen cast Nah, you find the blade of the silver sword somewhere in the city.
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I think you're supposed to pickpocket him, but it was on his body in Spellhold. If you have the blade the hilt comes to you with a bunch of Githyanki looking for it.
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Hollismason posted:I'm only in Chapter 2 , but where's a good place to buy great weapons/armor ? I've got like 55,000 gold now. Uh should probably get Immoen at some point. Adventurers Mart. It's in the very first area in Amn.
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Kavak posted:Imoen cast I'm not sure if I do. I installed Gibberling 3 Tweak Pack unsure if that includes the Bonus Merchants mod as well it includes a lot.
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Hollismason posted:I'm not sure if I do. I installed Gibberling 3 Tweak Pack unsure if that includes the Bonus Merchants mod as well it includes a lot. I think it does. The Adventurer's Mart and the Copper Coronet will have some interesting additions now- free the slaves in the latter and you'll get a discount, so it's a good place to pick up basics.
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The Bonus Merchants can be added with the Tweak pack but I think they're there by default in the EE. We're talking about the people that sell stuff like the Robe of Vecna and the Defender of Easthaven right?
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Head Hit Keyboard posted:The Bonus Merchants can be added with the Tweak pack but I think they're there by default in the EE. Yeah. The Planescape merchant is awesome, except for Dak'kon's sword. *Karach* weapons cannot exist without their wielder, that sword shouldn't exist! 
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AngryBooch posted:I think the player's handbook description of true neutral contained an example of a character that helped a village under attack by trolls, only to switch to the trolls' side once the village begins to win. True Neutral as described was just loving insane. In fairness, the description also says "Clearly, there are very few true neutral characters in the world", so they knew it was loving insane. I dig the idea of a philosophy dedicated to total balance, but pretty sure it shouldn't have been an alignment unto itself.
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So I'm thinking about doing a solo run through both BG1EE & BG2EE, and I always have trouble figuring out which class to play. I thought about doing a cleric/ranger, but that was patched right? I've skimmed through a bit of the thread and think I read that. I played a solo kensai/mage last year so I'd like to mix it up a bit. I didnt use any mods on that playthrough, but i should find the uncap xp mod and install that from what i understand. Which classes are the most fun through both games and ToB to you guys?
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Edit: Nevermind I got it working. Apparently this is a problem with the fix pack. If you can't get Cult of the Unseeing Eye to Trigger and you are good aligned Do this Command C:CreateCreature("bharval") Let him go inside then he'll give you the quest. edit: poo poo, Beholders. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Apr 30, 2016 |
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