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The Beholster hunting quest is the worst. in the 20 runs i did since i got that quest, i got the Beholster exactly once
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Wait until you have to kill 30 lead maidens or 3 kill pilllars.
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Apr 30, 2016 23:25
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The worst one so far was the shambling rounds
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Apr 30, 2016 23:26
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Kill five mimics
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Apr 30, 2016 23:26
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I've killed way more than 30 lead maidens just during my beholster quest so far. I'm getting REAL loving good at clearing floor 2 with just the rusty side arm, cause i rarely find a better boss killer than the crossbow when jumping to floor 2. P. sure the mimics won't be a problem either, i get at least 1 mimic on 8 out of 10 runs. (actually not looking forward to the 3 kill pilars tho)
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Apr 30, 2016 23:34
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40 Bullet Sharks sucks too, on a good run I get one room with three of them.
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Apr 30, 2016 23:59
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The numbers in general are too high because it's not like you can plan for any particular enemy type and focus on it anyway, short of using shortcuts.
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May 1, 2016 00:04
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The last achievement I have left is to finish the kill quests and I can't bring myself to do it. Stuck on shambling rounds forever, RIP.
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May 1, 2016 00:15
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Power of Pecota posted:40 Bullet Sharks sucks too, on a good run I get one room with three of them. 
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May 1, 2016 00:39
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All the other hunting quests are trivial when compared to the hell that is Shambling Rounds. You'll run into maybe 1-3 each run, a few more if you're lucky and/or go to the final chamber, and sometimes you won't even run into any at all. The later boss quests are easy, since you can just knock them out with the Boss Rush. No RNG gambling needed.
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May 1, 2016 01:02
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Downside of my last run: hosed up on Dragun for the Lead God achievement Upside: 2 caped bulletkin appeared, taking me to 3/5.
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May 1, 2016 01:11
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Well it gave me the steam kill quests achievement despite being 2 dragun kills short... I think I'm done with this game until the DLC comes out
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May 1, 2016 07:27
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 Thanks, clone. Didnt get a single chest above green in the run though and no active item better than grappling hook. Im STILL missing the last level for the map man, he has never showed up on floor 5.
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May 1, 2016 19:28
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I see you pick up the useless obsidian shell casings too
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May 1, 2016 22:01
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I just got this game and I don't get it. I don't get any of it. But it's a ton of fun. I feel like I'm never going to get it. And that's probably just fine. I'm looking for a beginner's guide that explains some stuff beyond "procedurally generated levels and RNG item drops," but can't find much -- I guess it's too new? How do I spend that currency I've been picking up (the crucifix-looking items?) Those seem to be the only items that persist after death.
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May 1, 2016 22:44
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enojy posted:I just got this game and I don't get it. I don't get any of it. But it's a ton of fun. I feel like I'm never going to get it. And that's probably just fine. Hegemony credits are used to buy unlocks in the Breach. Before you can spend them, you'll need to unlock buddies to buy things from - they're mostly locked in cells in the Gungeon which require a special key found elsewhere on the level to unlock.
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May 1, 2016 22:48
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Benly posted:Hegemony credits are used to buy unlocks in the Breach. Before you can spend them, you'll need to unlock buddies to buy things from - they're mostly locked in cells in the Gungeon which require a special key found elsewhere on the level to unlock. Ahh, OK, I've come across a few of those so far (I think -- a me-sized girl locked in a cell with a huge robot?) So if I come across something like that, I should scour the level for a key? I've just been bypassing them since I feel like I've completed a level without finding any keys.
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May 1, 2016 22:51
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enojy posted:Ahh, OK, I've come across a few of those so far (I think -- a me-sized girl locked in a cell with a huge robot?) So if I come across something like that, I should scour the level for a key? I've just been bypassing them since I feel like I've completed a level without finding any keys. If there's a cell, there'll always be a cell key somewhere on the level, although it may drop from the boss. The cell key is different from regular keys and is only for the cell lock.
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May 1, 2016 22:53
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It's a specific type of key you need to find, they are larger and golden. They are guaranteed to be in a level if a cage spawns, though sometimes you need to beat the boss for it.
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May 1, 2016 22:53
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Yeah they are usually on the second floor of the gungeon. If you finish every room without getting the big key the boss will have it. On another note I got some wax wings and an m16. First time I made it to the boss on level 5. I got him down to half health but I went in with 1 heart and 1 blank. Maybe I will beat this game after all
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May 1, 2016 22:54
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Yeah, the cells housing the NPCs seem to always be on floor two. You can either find the cell key as a reward for clearing a random room on that floor (it's a big orang key, can't miss it), or if you're kinda unlucky, you'll get it as a reward for beating the boss on that floor. The girl + robot are the ones running the shop where you can buy new guns with the green credits you piked up, so try to free them ASAP.
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May 1, 2016 22:54
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The more I play this game the more I regret buying it. I didn't think it was possible to make an Isaac clone so thoroughly un-fun but they really accomplished it. Every few days I think "well maybe it's not that bad" and give it another go, but nah it's really terrible.
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May 1, 2016 22:58
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K8.0 posted:The more I play this game the more I regret buying it. I didn't think it was possible to make an Isaac clone so thoroughly un-fun but they really accomplished it. Every few days I think "well maybe it's not that bad" and give it another go, but nah it's really terrible. YMMV. I have enjoyed the hell out of all 60 hours I've spent playing this, including/excluding the times I spent yelling "gently caress YOU" at the screen if you're on PC, have you bound a key to rapid fire? it helps a lot
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May 1, 2016 23:28
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That Cheat Engine script a goon posted a while back to make something drop after every room has turned the game from an unfun slog to something pretty decent. I still die on level 4, I still run out of ammo, but at least I can see a bit more of the game. http://pastebin.com/SHTJHDPB
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May 1, 2016 23:38
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i used to hate the game until I plugged a controller in
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K8.0 posted:The more I play this game the more I regret buying it. I didn't think it was possible to make an Isaac clone so thoroughly un-fun but they really accomplished it. Every few days I think "well maybe it's not that bad" and give it another go, but nah it's really terrible. Definitely just grab Cheat Engine and pick to either have infinite keys or infinite ammo (whatever bugs you more, but having both make the game way too easy imo) and it becomes a lot more fun. If you prefer playing fair, go find and unlock the Sorceress and either earn or cheat yourself some Hegemoney to pay for the Gun Game mode, which is also much more fun than the vanilla game.
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May 2, 2016 00:13
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I did my first Sorceress run and it was a blast. Why does this cost Hegemoney? It should just be a fun way to play. It's like this game wants you to cheat away all its inconveniences.
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May 2, 2016 00:25
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I agree that the design of keys and the degree of randomness induced by the number of garbage items and guns is absolutely idiotic, but the main problems I have with the game are fundamentally not fixable. I think the existence of dodge roll, tables and blanks all make it a worse game, the pilot makes it a worse game, the obsession with playing damageless makes it a really stupid game because why even have health when taking damage ends a run anyway... a lot of poo poo like that. I'm sure plenty of people find it enjoyable but to me it just sucks a shitload. I just want to see all the content and get it over with but I feel like I should probably cut my losses since it's just so aggressively anti-fun.
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May 2, 2016 00:32
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I'm slowly getting better at the game. Now after sixty hours and 120+ deaths, I can make it to floor 4 every time! Unless I get no good guns in the first floor or two and quit in frustration. I've even seen the Dragun three times!
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May 2, 2016 00:42
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I'm quite enjoying the game, versus BoI that I hated at every step, but that's me. I'm not good enough where better or more frequent drops will save me from making stupid mistakes; I've only gotten to the chamber 3 boss so far and essentially 100% of the damage I take was my fault for not paying attention. While I'm certain the flaws will become more apparent if I stick with it, it's right up my alley so far. And if it isn't just the most adorable thing, dang
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May 2, 2016 01:04
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allllmost managed to get Lead God, but the Dragun said no  what's with the wounded bullets you occasionally see rolling on the ground? Are you supposed to do something with them?
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Zorodius posted:allllmost managed to get Lead God, but the Dragun said no they show up in the oubliette and are functionally equivalent to the chairs, benches, barrels, etc. that exist only to block one bullet or be smashed underfoot
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K8.0 posted:I agree that the design of keys and the degree of randomness induced by the number of garbage items and guns is absolutely idiotic, but the main problems I have with the game are fundamentally not fixable. I think the existence of dodge roll, tables and blanks all make it a worse game, the pilot makes it a worse game, the obsession with playing damageless makes it a really stupid game because why even have health when taking damage ends a run anyway... a lot of poo poo like that. I'm sure plenty of people find it enjoyable but to me it just sucks a shitload. I just want to see all the content and get it over with but I feel like I should probably cut my losses since it's just so aggressively anti-fun. Actually, now that I'm good at the game, the only problem I have is that Bullet Hell is impossible without some way to conserve ammo or I guess a bunch of damage passives. One room alone can empty an entire gun. I shouldn't have a full array of like 8 guns and then get to the boss with nothing left.
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May 2, 2016 03:40
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"here's a bunch of guns; don't shoot them" is a design error, even if you can technically play around it and the game's still fun
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I very gradually got better at this game, from barely making it to floor 2 up to finishing the last floor with no damage taken over the course of probably 20-30 hours played. Part of getting better was mechanical and part was ammo/item management. Knowing what to pick up, what to combo with what, when to start burning ammo off of which guns, etc. I really enjoyed it all the way through though, even early on when I figured I wasn't going to get anywhere. For me, it beats Binding of Isaac and ranks alongside Nuclear Throne as my favorite 2d gun thing. My best run was with the mega hand + that musical note item that makes your current gun stronger with every kill until you switch away or get hit. It pretty quickly ramped up to one-shotting basically everything, so I was able to clear entire floors and have it do like 10-15% per hit on earlier bosses. Even the dragun was taking around 8% per shot. With 4 blanks in tow I knocked it down to phase 2 without ever seeing the knives or getting hit. edit: with the exception of the post-game hardcore poo poo, which I don't really expect a high level of balance or fairness from, I never felt like I had to conserve ammo hardcore. Between ammo crates and constant gun drops and vendors you usually have something that you can afford to use to clear our tougher rooms without screwing yourself for boss dps.
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enojy posted:I just got this game and I don't get it. I don't get any of it. But it's a ton of fun. I feel like I'm never going to get it. And that's probably just fine. I think for a beginner, here's my starting tips: Enter the Gungeon is a brutally difficult twin stick roguelike (randomly generated dungeon) shooter. You're going to die. A lot. And that's OK. There are several ways to make "progress" in the game without beating it. These are: Freeing allies. On floor 2, there will be a room with people locked in a cell behind a special golden lock. Somewhere on second floor, after clearing a room of enemies (including, sometimes, the boss room), a golden cell key will drop. Use this to unlock the cell and talk to the people inside. They will appear somewhere in The Breach, and many have ways to help you, including selling you new things to have appear in the Gungeon, which leads to our next point... Buying things with Hegemony Credits (the green things bosses drop). Once you've unlocked your first allies (Cadence and her robot companion) they'll operate a store next to the entrance to the Gungeon in the Breach. I recommend prioritizing the Heart items as when you find/purchase them they give you a full heart container. Repairing the Elevator. After you take the elevator down to level 2, step out of the bullet and when it drops down, follow it! Down there you will find a secret guy who will be hanging down there on future visits and asking for items to fix the elevator. Once he's done this, you can start the game at floor 2, and he'll move down to floor 3, etc. Gameplay tips: Every floor has the regular merchant. You can unlock other merchants by rescuing them. Cursula, the homestuck looking lady, sells items at a steep discount, but she gives you some curse. Curse affects how often enemies show up as "jammed" (super strong red versions). The lock guy buys things with keys, not with casings. Kill the boss without taking any damage (including having him break armor) to earn a Master Shell, which you both need to fix the elevators and it acts as an extra heart. Every floor has two chest rooms and a secret room. Brown Chests suck. Don't waste keys on these. You'll average about 1.5 keys or so a floor, or less, and later floors will have doors that are locked, hiding chests or sometimes the merchant! Secret rooms need a blank to open them up. Popping a blank in a room will reveal any secret rooms in that room. This includes blanks from armor popping and other atypical blank sources. Secret rooms can be in the post-boss elevator room, so if you have extra blanks always check there. Secret room walls do not look any different from regular walls UNTIL they are hit by an enemy shot or any shot from a gun of yours that doesn't have infinite ammo (the starting guns), then they will start developing a black crack like the one visible in the tutorial room. In general I don't like to waste ammo searching for them, I'll just use my blanks. Secret rooms are always the same size, about the size of elevator room, and I think they only have one entrance/exit. The first half of your dodge roll is invulnerable, the second half is not. This means you want to be using it to jump over bullets, not dodge to the side of bullets, or else you'll wind up landing on another bullet while not invulnerable. You can blank while rolling if you notice you've screwed up and are super fast. Your dodge roll deals 1 damage to enemies. This lets you kill the bullats and the tiniest slimes. Standing on poison (green) or acid (yellow) fills up a meter over your characters head. When it fills up, you take a damage. Until then, no damage. Dodge rolling pauses this meter, so you can roll over poison without taking damage or walk over small bits. Touching fire sets you on fire, which starts filling a fire meter over your head. Dodge rolling resets this and will put out the fire eventually. When the meter fills up, you take damage and the meter restarts. When you flip a table, it kills all the bullets around it and takes no damage. This means when a Gun Nut or other many-bulleted enemy is next to the table, you can flip it right as they attack to negate the attack. If you flip it prematurely, they can sometimes break the table with their attack and still hit you. Press and hold up on the dpad to drop guns, down to drop active items, and open up the map (L2) and select a passive with the dpad and press triangle to drop passives. Drop items on the gutter slime that shows up in teh shop to sell items to him. Dropping and picking up heart containers (including master shells) will empty them, so don't do this when you have full life (or ever, because they're awesome items). PS4 is not up to date with the PC patches, which means selling Junk will get you like 50 casings.
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I think I'm done with the game. If they try to buff some of the guns (or even just excise ones that are overly gimmicky or weak) or fix the dumb HP scaling I'll give it another shot, but it seems like they went out of their way to make sure nothing stood out at all. Even guns you get out of the big chests aren't any fun.
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May 2, 2016 04:36
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I put two guns into a gunmuncher and got a pea shooter today.
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May 2, 2016 04:51
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Wow, thanks! I did meet the elevator guy, but hadn't seen him on level 2 since then. I'll dip down into that lil room next time. Starting in at least level 2 would be great, as the first level is getting boring, and I've probably been relying on the starter pistol more than anything else so far anyway. Who do you sell items to? I don't remember seeing the option at the moustached shopkeeper dude.
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The green gun munchers only give out poo poo guns most likely. Its only yellow onces that given decent results. Items can only be sold to grate-man. Edit: Bosses and Bullet hell aside the game becomes piss easy once you learn which enemies actually fire in which patterns/lead shots and which dont.
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