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cyberia
Jun 24, 2011

Do not call me that!
Snuffles was my slave name.
You shall now call me Snowball; because my fur is pretty and white.
Is there anywhere to download these demoscene videos other than youtube?

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an actual frog
Mar 1, 2007


HEH, HEH, HEH!
Pouet would be a good place to start if you know what you're looking or just fancy browing for popular stuff for imo. Each prod typically has a downloadable video

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


Truly, today's Windows demos just bore the gently caress outta me with rare exceptions.
The compo winners may even be technically impressive, but still don't pack the same punch as a well designed Amiga/C64/ST/CPC/MS-DOS demo for me. I think I just like lo-fi poo poo with a modern twist because, as Police Automaton said, modern retro computer demos are different because there's more resources today than 25 years ago. Also, it's way more interesting seeing those guys making do with old hardware.

Some cool examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHXx3orN35Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzBW2MQu9YA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqjZNnjNu3Y

Centripetal Horse posted:

I'm going to say DOS, although there's a tiny possibility it would run under Windows at the time. It was definitely running on an MS-something operating system.

I spent some time trying to find it on https://www.pouet.net but no dice. Maybe you can get lucky if you check its database.

Negostrike has a new favorite as of 02:14 on Apr 30, 2016

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
i dont play many games but it seems like the advances in graphics are really marginal year over year at this point. makes me so glad to have lived during the really big leaps in that poo poo from like eg NES to SNES to N64

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

Games are much better now that it's not a graphical arms race any more, though

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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I've had this one stuck in my head since the last time it was posted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SdGkkp1aq8

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

I will be messing around with this for the next two hours and will report back. You are a mad genius!

:ohdear:

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Efexeye posted:

Games are much better now that it's not a graphical arms race any more, though

Games aren't in a race to pack as many pixels as possible, but elaborate and massive animation budgets are certainly the norm for AAA games.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

Concerned Citizen posted:

Games aren't in a race to pack as many pixels as possible, but elaborate and massive animation budgets are certainly the norm for AAA games.

right but shiny graphics aren't enough of a distraction to justify a lovely game any more and that's good

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
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Yeah, if you wanna do the next GTA you have to invest some serious dough and that's kind of an arms race in itself. Elite didn't have quite that budget.

Also I would say that games are better is debatable. Big developers are afraid of doing anything too creative because it could ruin them in a heartbeat because of the profit margins and even if a lot of stuff is very well executed it does sometimes feel very by-the-numbers (the never-ending torrent of sequels with more of the same stuff) and the small indie developers all seem to want to be the next candy crush sensation, falling over each other to clone every *resemblance* of a good idea any of them had and many of them overall just delivering very shoddy work that will not be truly finished ever. There are of course also many good games, but still. I also have the feeling the internet stifles creativity. I miss the trippy and sometimes weird games of the 80s-90s which also tried to do something new. (and granted, sometimes reaaally failed at that) You just do not see that sort of thing much anymore, everything just sort of falls around the same expected median and exceptions are rare but that might be all rose-tinted glasses.

To get back to GTA 5 in this example, I played that when it came out for PC and really marveled at how nice everything looked and how detailed the world was. But still, in the end, all you still do is shoot people and either flee or pursuit. It has been the same game for a long time.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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Sorta related to the demoscene, Mike Oldfield once released a C64 version of Tubular Bells in 1986.

Here's a five-minute excerpt of the 50-minute album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ53UEddDQQ

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
I like the heists in gta v but theyre really just multipart missions where you get a choice between two ways to do one part of. The story is what makes V stand out i think since it's actually pretty good at least by videogame standards

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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Also I'd be way interested in a Demoscene thread, Dr. Quarex. I didn't really "follow" it (let alone be involved in it in any way) but they are insanely cool.

There's a scene in videogame consoles, too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di_MnKNDfm0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w54uNAuqE1Y

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


cyberia posted:

Is there anywhere to download these demoscene videos other than youtube?

As someone said in the last page, Farbrauch have their stuff on github. Even back when they were being released you could get the .exe's from their official site.

It's no longer up but:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.farbrausch.com/&gws_rd=cr&ei=4CYkV9LZCtegjwPSuYvIBg

And their github including all the tools they made:
https://github.com/farbrausch/fr_public/commits/master

My Rhythmic Crotch
Jan 13, 2011

Humphreys posted:

(Also, don't be the Queensland government and hire idiots at a huge rate to update their whole medical system. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...27f9-1461931062
It gives me warm fuzzies that we aren't the only country with a bunch of corrupt, hamfisted buffoons for gubbermint

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


My Rhythmic Crotch posted:

It gives me warm fuzzies that we aren't the only country with a bunch of corrupt, hamfisted buffoons for gubbermint

My favourite news story at the moment about gubbermints trying to cheap out then it causing more issues is the USS Independence build. The Navy apparently cheaped out of sacrificial anodes (?) that prevent different types of metal reacting with each other and dissolving.

https://www.wired.com/2011/06/shipbuilder-blames-navy-as-brand-new-warship-disintegrates/

Bonus! It's an Aussie contractor too!

Anony Mouse
Jan 30, 2005

A name means nothing on the battlefield. After a week, no one has a name.
Lipstick Apathy
Yeah someone should make a demoscene thread, I would post there. I'd make it myself but I'm not knowledgeable enough. I want to talk about poo poo like shadertoy.com, procedural 3D fractals, and other demoscene-related stuff that doesn't belong here.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Anony Mouse posted:

Yeah someone should make a demoscene thread, I would post there. I'd make it myself but I'm not knowledgeable enough. I want to talk about poo poo like shadertoy.com, procedural 3D fractals, and other demoscene-related stuff that doesn't belong here.

I think someone who posts in this thread who WAS part of a a demo creation team should really start it to be honest. They would have some awesome stories to kick off conversation and inside info about the technicalities that would be fantastic to read.

Chief McHeath
Apr 23, 2002

AS/400

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014


I wish I could think of something cool to do with 34 function keys and I wish I had the time to work out how to do something cool with an AS/400 terminal.

Are there any AS/400 demos?

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
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I'd advise you folks to just post here if you wanna talk about demos. All these specialty threads end up being dead threads with effort OPs nobody posts in. I talked in the already pretty dead old computer games thread in games about old computer hardware and was encouraged to make my own thread just talking about old hardware and repairs, that thread was then even more dead and I was talking to myself until the entire thing was just felt like too much :effort:. I don't want to backseat mod but you don't need to talk about one singular thing here, I think this thread flowing between different topics like it does was what kept it alive and interesting so long to begin with.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Police Automaton posted:

encouraged to make my own thread just talking about old hardware and repairs

Oh yeah, that reminds me, my C64 only displays garbled characters too :v:

Edit: And yeah, I know it's a common problem and easily fixed but :effort:

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Buttcoin purse posted:

Oh yeah, that reminds me, my C64 only displays garbled characters too :v:

Ruudulle tulee vain ihme merkkejä? Virhe datalauseissa.

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
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Buttcoin purse posted:

Oh yeah, that reminds me, my C64 only displays garbled characters too :v:

Edit: And yeah, I know it's a common problem and easily fixed but :effort:

Well if you wanna take a whack at it, post pictures of the screen in question and of the mainboard

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Police Automaton posted:

I'd advise you folks to just post here if you wanna talk about demos. All these specialty threads end up being dead threads with effort OPs nobody posts in. I talked in the already pretty dead old computer games thread in games about old computer hardware and was encouraged to make my own thread just talking about old hardware and repairs, that thread was then even more dead and I was talking to myself until the entire thing was just felt like too much :effort:. I don't want to backseat mod but you don't need to talk about one singular thing here, I think this thread flowing between different topics like it does was what kept it alive and interesting so long to begin with.

You are 100% correct.

I just don't want poo poo to be filled with half a page of 'you are derailing this poo poo' posts. Maybe this thread is more tolerent because derails tend to be cool things (this demoscene one for instance). Another similarly related thread I have been thinking of cutting out and doing a dedicated thread, but the audience for the content is completely inside the thread.

Let's just bitch and whine adbout a topic until something cooler comes alone (like more AOL stuff).

EDIT: My comments above stand, but I can't remember if certain cool poo poo has been posted here or :

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3495621&pagenumber=366#lastpost

EDIT, The EDITING: The VMception stuff could get an audience, but I fear the ones like me who are casually interested and want it to happen will be struck down by some turbonerd.

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 15:18 on Apr 30, 2016

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
I don't see it as a derail. Demos are computer relics. It's very on topic.

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

I really want to make a MegaDrive cart of this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEG3fdV6Ra4

(yes, it's an Amiga version, but it was also made for GEN/MD: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=64438)

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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laserghost posted:

I really want to make a MegaDrive cart of this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEG3fdV6Ra4

(yes, it's an Amiga version, but it was also made for GEN/MD: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=64438)

This owns, god drat. Are there more of these but with other bands?

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

Oh, how I wish there was at least one more, with Priest's songs, but no :( kult norwegian tracker Cadaver did some metal chiptunes though, and some of them were included in his Metal Warrior games on C64.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNUUzW7xJEg

Back in 1998, there was a musicdisk made of Depeche Mode SIDs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6afQX2gwckg

If you download the whole High Voltage SID Collection and do some searches, you'll find some really neat tunes.

Oh well, may as well post this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzlVNcel44k

laserghost has a new favorite as of 21:16 on Apr 30, 2016

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
pretty much every derail so far in this thread has been greatly entertaining to people interested in the original topic so i would encourage yall to :justpost: here

plus we've already exhausted most of the really on-topic stuff (or at least i keep thinking so and then being wrong)

thathonkey has a new favorite as of 21:21 on Apr 30, 2016

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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Neat!

And well there's always Frantic Freddie I guess, which included hits such as Queen's Crazy Little Thing Called Love and Paul Simon's Kodachrome :allears:

Amiga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9HuuxuSSSc

C64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKYUbhoBT5c

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

C64 games were chock-full of "inspired by" tunes (if not outright covers). Today we would call it stealing, but back then games were made dorks in their bedrooms and were sold to younger dorks, so no was giving a poo poo. Some C64 musicians started their careers by remaking Jarre's tunes for demos and games (which also were more often than not unauthorized clones of arcade games):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UjEUH3gjMw

an actual frog
Mar 1, 2007


HEH, HEH, HEH!

laserghost posted:

C64 games were chock-full of "inspired by" tunes (if not outright covers). Today we would call it stealing, but back then games were made dorks in their bedrooms and were sold to younger dorks, so no was giving a poo poo. Some C64 musicians started their careers by remaking Jarre's tunes for demos and games (which also were more often than not unauthorized clones of arcade games):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UjEUH3gjMw
Yeah it's amusing in retrospect how commercial game sountracks could be *ahem*... heavily inspired by contemporary music without seemingly raising copyright concerns? Simpler times I guess

Some more examples for the thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh8SIAZfDKs
Delta's ingame tune, borrows from Pink Floyd and Philip Glass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NGfH5QRSyc
Last Ninja 2 Mansion theme, takes inspiration from Tangerine Dream's Alchemy of the Heart.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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laserghost posted:

C64 games were chock-full of "inspired by" tunes (if not outright covers). Today we would call it stealing, but back then games were made dorks in their bedrooms and were sold to younger dorks, so no was giving a poo poo. Some C64 musicians started their careers by remaking Jarre's tunes for demos and games (which also were more often than not unauthorized clones of arcade games):

Sometimes they even copied each other!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf29ShkoAiA

(43-seconds in, if the link didn't redirect properly)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9tU1i-b6Bs&t=43s

theultimo
Aug 2, 2004

An RSS feed bot who makes questionable purchasing decisions.
Pillbug

Pham Nuwen posted:

.mod is a music file format.

MOD music tracking is amazing though, I still have an Amiga with mod software, something about actual hardware makes the mods that much more powerful

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax
http://www.keygenplayer.com/

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Mak0rz posted:

Sometimes they even copied each other!

(Comic Bakery videos here)

You know, it's been about a decade since last time I got to link this. Enjoy or something.

I was just a bit late for the C64 and amiga, but I'm old enough to have fond memories of the OPL-3 in the soundblaster 16. Time to dig up openTyrian again, I think; it emulates it rather well.

edit: Oh wow, that keygen collection is something. Let's dig through their Razor1911 collection. :D

Computer viking has a new favorite as of 00:25 on May 1, 2016

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Mak0rz posted:

Sometimes they even copied each other!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf29ShkoAiA

Oh man this remanded me of the Drunken Bakers computer game. Frankly it's a miracle it ever got published.

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
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The Amigas' "Paula" sound part is mostly an pretty unspectacular DAC which can do 8 bit (sorta 14 bit if you get clever and combine the channels, doesn't sound really like true 14 bit though, it's just not that good) technology-wise it's sadly not nearly as interesting as the SID, well from todays perspective anyways. The only "kind of" interesting thing there is the toggleable (later on, at least) external filter to remove aliasing and make everything sound weird. A racing game called Lotus II used that cleverly by enabling the filter if you were in a tunnel, which also best describes how it sounds really. Really spectacular it was mostly because you got relatively high quality samples for cheap computationally that sounded pretty good at a time when all that an PC did was beep. (and the C64 too, don't get me wrong, people do amazing things with the SID but that was not the average experience of the late 80s)

It also does the writing and reading regarding floppy disks and a serial port, so that's interesting. Would I listen to .mods on anything else? Nope.

I always wanted to make an interface to the SID via parallel port so I can play sid tunes on my A2000. The hardware is pretty simple but writing software for that thing is a nightmare. Especially bringing yourself to sit down and seriously write something for the Commodore Amiga of all machines. The only thing I ever do in that direction these days is farting a little around with c64 and assembler but only because you can get quick results with emulators and it's relatively easy to do.

It's kinda sad that FM synthesis didn't get much love on the PC. Probably because so many implementations of it sounded like somebody farted into an empty tin can.

EDIT: There's a dude on youtube which does pretty sweet things with OPL3, just found him again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNhazT5HG0E

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Sten Freak
Sep 10, 2008

Despite all of these shortcomings, the Sten still has a long track record of shooting people right in the face.
College Slice
The C64 demo that was hot when we got ours was the Christmas music and scenes of snow falling on houses.

Unrelated there was -the- .wav repository website late 90s and beyond. I thought it was soundwav.com but that's some app site. Movie, TV shows and other short sound files in wav format. Anyone remember that?

Also there was a time it was really difficult to find Simpsons sound files. I guess a small internet with zealous copyright enforcement. This was pre YouTube of course. Anyway I recall the only "I was saying boourns" wav I could find was some little kid saying it which was hilarious in itself.

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