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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Anyone got any good articles on the outsourcing of jobcentre work to libraries?

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baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

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EAT SHIT

jabby posted:

The problem with insisting there's no problem is that quite a few Labour MPs are gleefully admitting there's a huge problem. It's very hard to try and paint this as a political smear when the calls for action are coming from within the party, even though most of us know they are being made for political ends too. The leadership has to be seen to take some action, but at the same time trying to avoid the narrative forming that Labour are an anti-semitic party. That's what I meant by this being a careful balancing act. The recent Jewish Socialists press release is a masterful example of reconciling this, Diane Abott's interview was not.

Oh yeah, I'm not saying it's done well - the problem is people who think they can talk reasonably and sort this whole thing out, and completely fail to read the situation. But I mean you need both sides - if there's an inquiry, you need something that's at odds with that, basically arguing that it's not even necessary. You have to contest the whole premise if you're going to set out to prove there's no issue and to fix any problems that might turn up

The tone might have been bad, but there'll always be an element of 'you're not taking this seriously enough' when you're basically rejecting the accusations. But yeah, the usual crew definitely ain't cutting it lately

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Angepain posted:

When someone stops defending their views, or stating any views at all, and starts just defending their right to "ask questions" then you know they don't have a leg to stand on.

He's not calling him a Muslim extremist, he's just asking the question of whether he's a muslim extremist, and implying an answer, that's completely fine

I've just seen it and that is some of the most obvious dogwhistling I think I've ever seen.

Foxtrot_13
Oct 31, 2013
Ask me about my love of genocide denial!

TinTower posted:



Isn't this the entire membership of the CPGB-ML in this picture? :haw:

So that's where some of the middle class hipsters went

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Darth Walrus posted:

Anyone got any good articles on the outsourcing of jobcentre work to libraries?

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/apr/09/unconnected-and-out-of-work-the-vicious-circle-of-having-no-internet

its mostly about how its entirely dependent on the internet which is hosed up but covers libraries

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Jose posted:

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/apr/09/unconnected-and-out-of-work-the-vicious-circle-of-having-no-internet

its mostly about how its entirely dependent on the internet which is hosed up but covers libraries

It's not like having working public services is something a developed country might need, duh.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
i'm concerned at how these things are so bad i remember them and can find them with little effort

Prince John
Jun 20, 2006

Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?


On course 1 year later I see... :(

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
I would rather watch a documentary about medieval shipbuilding than The Voice.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I would watch a talent show where members of the public compete to be the country's best medieval shipwright and then the winner gets to conn their ship to Normandy.

Like that Scrapheap Challenge/Junkyard Wars crossover where they all made WWI era aircraft. That was cool.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/726872855493939201

The Express still refusing to admit that the metric system happened.

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

Guavanaut posted:

I would watch a talent show where members of the public compete to be the country's best medieval shipwright and then the winner gets to conn their ship to Normandy.

Like that Scrapheap Challenge/Junkyard Wars crossover where they all made WWI era aircraft. That was cool.

Agreed, but instead he has to go and fend off the Great Heathen Army.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Thanks Ants posted:

https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/726872855493939201

The Express still refusing to admit that the metric system happened.
They use Celsius (which is still not a real SI unit) whenever it's unseasonably cold and Fahrenheit whenever it's unseasonably hot. It's tabloid journalism in its most primal form of 'which looks most shocking?'

Chocolate Teapot
May 8, 2009

Thanks Ants posted:

https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/726872855493939201

The Express still refusing to admit that the metric system happened.

Not to mention the numerous times where such headlines have been continually wrong, over and over again.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Guavanaut posted:

They use Celsius (which is still not a real SI unit)

all temperatures should be in Kelvin from now on, we all need a reminder of how small a difference it really is between 273 degrees and 300 in the grand scheme of things

how can you truly hate the immigrants when all of us are surrounded by a cold dead lifeless void of nothingness

NO FUCK YOU DAD
Oct 23, 2008
I've never really understood the point of the Daily Express. Is it for people too racist for The Sun but too poor for The Mail?

I don't think I've ever seen anyone reading a copy in the wild, so it's hard to judge.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
Wow 24 degrees C, what a scorcher.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

I've never really understood the point of the Daily Express. Is it for people too racist for The Sun but too poor for The Mail?

I don't think I've ever seen anyone reading a copy in the wild, so it's hard to judge.

It's an easyread mail

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Guavanaut posted:

They use Celsius (which is still not a real SI unit)

At least the actual units are the same size as the SI unit of temperature though, it's just got a bit of an offset.

And for gently caress's sake, 23C is not a heatwave

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Angepain posted:

all temperatures should be in Kelvin from now on, we all need a reminder of how small a difference it really is between 273 degrees and 300 in the grand scheme of things

how can you truly hate the immigrants when all of us are surrounded by a cold dead lifeless void of nothingness
The Express will never use a temperature unit associated with black bodies.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
The Daily Expresses readership are made up of racists in their 60's onwards so any temperature outside of the upper teens represents potential death.

Prince John
Jun 20, 2006

Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

Guavanaut posted:

The Express will never use a temperature unit associated with black bodies.

:golfclap:

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Oberleutnant posted:

I would rather watch a documentary about medieval shipbuilding than The Voice.

Same.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
Paxman sums up my feelings about 'weather news'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQx3OSRj23Y

FinalGamer
Aug 30, 2012

So the mystic script says.

OwlFancier posted:

"Yer a loose cannon 'flaps, one more mistake and yer' off the force, I'm assigning you detective Corbyn as yer' new partner."

"Actually I'm a constable so I shouldn't be working with a detective."
i'm sorry that loving cracked me up, i want this movie to exist now. :)

Also I can't really trust a man like Zac Goldsmith who makes articles entitled "The Apologist". I don't think I've ever heard that term used by someone not a complete shithead.

(Or was it the Ecologist? I can't hear well, but it sounded like Apologist which would work totally fine for him)

NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

I've never really understood the point of the Daily Express. Is it for people too racist for The Sun but too poor for The Mail?

I don't think I've ever seen anyone reading a copy in the wild, so it's hard to judge.
I think it's for people too stupid to read the Mail and too racist for the Sun, so you got that half-right. The only thing I see about the Daily Express here is that:

1. they absolutely despise the SNP and

2. they were one of the only papers to not even SPEAK about #DodgyDave when it was all going down and lastly

3. the editor-in-chief during the Leveson Inquiry literally told people that whenever it was a slow news day, he would drag up Madeleine McCann just to sell more newspapers.


Soooooooooo yeah.

FinalGamer fucked around with this message at 23:20 on May 1, 2016

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Guavanaut posted:

The Express will never use a temperature unit associated with black bodies.

:golfclap:

NO FUCK YOU DAD
Oct 23, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

The Express will never use a temperature unit associated with black bodies.
I don't know about that, the thought of black bodies sounds like the only thing that can get an Express reader hard.

It's the live ones they've got a problem with.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Angepain posted:

all temperatures should be in Kelvin from now on, we all need a reminder of how small a difference it really is between 273 degrees and 300 in the grand scheme of things

how can you truly hate the immigrants when all of us are surrounded by a cold dead lifeless void of nothingness

No no, use Rankine instead.

For maximum annoyance.

biglads
Feb 21, 2007

I could've gone to Blatherwycke



TinTower posted:



Isn't this the entire membership of the CPGB-ML in this picture? :haw:

Half of them are undercover coppers

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
That's a key tenet of Stalinism.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

I don't know about that, the thought of black bodies sounds like the only thing that can get an Express reader hard.

It's the live ones they've got a problem with.

:drat: Jesus

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
Daily mail - Middleclass right
Express - Middleclass right who dun read so well :(
Guardian - Middleclass left, sort of. Doesn't seem to live in same reality as sold. Possible dimensional cross/breach/merge.
Mirror - working class left. Low readership levels. Mysterious. No one has actually seen a working class leftist since the miners strike. Endangered or possibly extinct.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

My nan reads the mirror.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
The Mail is for older readers who are very alarmed about black people and what they're doing to Are Country. The Express is for older readers who are very alarmed about mole people and what they're doing to Are Diana.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I've actually seen a guy at my local newsagent buying the Express, The Sun and The Mail all on the same day.
No word on whether he bought a hosepipe for his car at the same time.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I'm convinced that a significant audience for The Sun is people who flick through the front, declare it 'all bollocks', mostly read the sport and fluff bits, and vote Labour. (source: pubs)

I don't think the same is true for the Express or Mail.

FinalGamer
Aug 30, 2012

So the mystic script says.
So, I get Zac Goldsmith is a racist prick from the golden gated community or something, but what's the non-racist reasons for people not liking Sadiq Khan because I'm rather confused about some things in this London dickwaving contest.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

He's a labour candidate.

Some people think conservatives are good.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

Guavanaut posted:

I'm convinced that a significant audience for The Sun is people who flick through the front, declare it 'all bollocks', mostly read the sport and fluff bits, and vote Labour. (source: pubs)

I don't think the same is true for the Express or Mail.

A lad I know reads the Daily Mail solely for its sports section. He doesn't give a poo poo about currents events besides said sports and what new movies/video games are coming out. Though if he did bother to read news he would probably go to the Mail for it too. He has described people as plebs without irony. He is also in his twenties without ever working a day in his life but always has money as he comes from a well off family, yet he still calls people on the dole parasites.

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Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.
On the Labour anti-semitisim debate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89xvp0n_kr8

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