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One thing I was kind of disappointed with lore-wise regarding SOTFS/DkS3: the firekeeper is for some reason able to cure my character's hollowing curse just by using another firekeeper's soul. What happened to the whole thing with the crowns? Could they have done this the whole time? I had to work my rear end off in Scholar to be the one and only cured hollow and all this time all I needed to do was get two firekeepers in a room and kill one of them. I mean I could have just done that in the very first room of DkS2 and went home!
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Man this thread moves fast. Does anyone else make their characters freaks of nature? This is Handsome George, and he is pretty depressed about existing.  He has no luck with the ladies.  Swords he cant pick up bum him out.  bonus Bloodborne guy 
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If you're going to bow in PvP, be the first one to do it and within the range of a lunging attack.argondamn posted:One thing I was kind of disappointed with lore-wise regarding SOTFS/DkS3: the firekeeper is for some reason able to cure my character's hollowing curse just by using another firekeeper's soul. What happened to the whole thing with the crowns? Could they have done this the whole time? I had to work my rear end off in Scholar to be the one and only cured hollow and all this time all I needed to do was get two firekeepers in a room and kill one of them. I mean I could have just done that in the very first room of DkS2 and went home! This one is quite different from an ordinary Firekeeper. Everything is quite different. Especially (lategame spoilers) how the sky is hosed while I'm up there but normal when in the shrine 
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argondamn posted:One thing I was kind of disappointed with lore-wise regarding SOTFS/DkS3: the firekeeper is for some reason able to cure my character's hollowing curse just by using another firekeeper's soul. What happened to the whole thing with the crowns? Could they have done this the whole time? I had to work my rear end off in Scholar to be the one and only cured hollow and all this time all I needed to do was get two firekeepers in a room and kill one of them. I mean I could have just done that in the very first room of DkS2 and went home! Why Unkindled don't hollow is not ever really explained though, but it makes a degree of sense why the Fire Keeper can cure you and it's definitely a callback of sorts to the DS2 DLC.
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if someone invades me and then bows at me I'm hitting them with a firebomb I got poo poo to do homie lets not let this take all day
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May 2, 2016 02:04
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Nakar posted:The horrible, terrible crow people lived there originally. Apparently they can leave, since they've been found elsewhere (Ornifex, the Corvians themselves). I'm curious; other than having to do with birds, where is it stated that they come from the painted world and don't just want to go there? e: the Corvians I mean. They're quite obviously different creatures than the crow demons.
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May 2, 2016 02:06
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Babe Magnet posted:if someone invades me and then bows at me I'm hitting them with a firebomb Man, I'm just being polite and happy to see someone who isn't running two phantoms and a giant seed just waiting to gank me.  E: I don't bow though, it's one of the many joyous ones instead.
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someone invaded me when I was at the top of lothric castle where the gold winged knights were, so I climbed to the top of the tower to look for him. when he got up, he bowed and I kicked him off the roof. then I killed him with a drop attack when he got up
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Manatee Cannon posted:someone invaded me when I was at the top of lothric castle where the gold winged knights were, so I climbed to the top of the tower to look for him. when he got up, he bowed and I kicked him off the roof. then I killed him with a drop attack when he got up Doesn't get more  than that.
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Babe Magnet posted:if someone invades me and then bows at me I'm hitting them with a firebomb Agreed. Also Lt. Speirs has some advice for those of you that get super mad about invading into a 'gank squad' or a host that keeps resummoning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5YpUsDsHmk Accept the fact that you're going to die and get in some practice. There's no time limits for invasions any more so they have to come to you. Or just black crystal out. Whatever.
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Babe Magnet posted:if someone invades me and then bows at me I'm hitting them with a firebomb A firebomb? What kind of horrible, uncultured heathen are you? ...You hit them with a Dung Pie, not a firebomb!
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Getting tired of mobs starting an attack animation and then instantly turning 180 degrees with no animation to nail me with it when I dodge. I also don't remember being hit and/or killed by mobs swinging their weapons through walls constantly in earlier Souls games.
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lite_sleepr posted:Doesn't get more that actually happened twice, but the first time I was a sunbro and I didn't land the drop attack so the host died. we had gotten invaded earlier on the gargoyle roof and I kicked another phantom off that roof, but apparently there was a floor below him and he survived
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Another point in favor of the Scholar and Usurpation connection, Vendrick's dialogue from SotFS: Fire came to be and with it disparity. Heat and cold, life and death, light and dark. Dark was seen as a curse. Shadow is not cast but born of fire. And the brighter the flame, the deeper the shadow. Inherit fire and harness the dark. Such is the calling of a true leader. The first two lines come from the intro to DS1, which is basically the "ancient lore" that Vendrick and Aldia rediscovered. Then he suggests that dark needs fire and that you should "inherit fire and harness the dark." Which doesn't exactly sound like merely linking the First Flame. Yuria does want you to link it, but then: "My lord and liege, I prithee, play the usurper: When the moment cometh to link the fire, wrest it from its mantle." Also, "The Age of Fire was founded by the old gods, sustained by the linking of the fire. But the gods are no more, and the all-powerful fire deserveth a new heir. Our Lord of Hollows it shall be, who weareth the true face of mankind. Honorable usurper, I prithee wrest the flame from its mantle, so that we hollows in most honest shape of man may have it for our own." The entire thing with the "marriage" is specifically so you can gain the strength to usurp; and as it so happens "marrying" Anri gives you more Dark Sigils. I dunno, that kinda sounds like inheriting fire and harnessing the dark to me. Your Computer posted:I'm curious; other than having to do with birds, where is it stated that they come from the painted world and don't just want to go there?
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Shnag posted:Man this thread moves fast. Does anyone else make their characters freaks of nature? Thanks for reminding me I still needed to make Ocelotte
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Endings Question: So I'm trying to get the "Usurp the Flame" ending, and I've done everything I need to aside from beating the final boss--I "married" Anri and talked to Yuria who said that I could usurp the flame "when the time came" or whatever. At the same time, I gave eyes to the Fire Keeper, who said something along the lines of "when the time is right, let the flame die out." Can I still get the Usurp ending, or do I need to kill the Fire Keeper and take her eyes back?
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Sheen Sheen posted:Endings Question: You'll be given the choice to either link the flame or call her via summon sign, linking the flame will trigger the usurp ending and calling her will trigger the dark ending. There's no reason to kill her, so enjoy the awesome music you get
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Sheen Sheen posted:Endings Question: na you're fine. to get usurp the flame, just link the fire. to get the dark ending, use the summon sign to call in the firekeeper after the boss is dead. you don't have to kill her and take the eyes back
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Millennial Sexlord posted:Getting tired of mobs starting an attack animation and then instantly turning 180 degrees with no animation to nail me with it when I dodge. I also don't remember being hit and/or killed by mobs swinging their weapons through walls constantly in earlier Souls games. I loving wish. I don't recall as many instances of being hit through the floor by enemies underneath my walkway, though. "What the gently caress just hit me?... Oh I guess the Not Evangelist underneath this archway can just reach up and stab me in the foot, okay then." People straight up aimbotting through walls with no line of sight was back in DS1, though. loving spear silver knights. Section Z fucked around with this message at 02:34 on May 2, 2016 |
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I wonder if Yuria is lying or if that "marriage" is really how they do it in hollow land.
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I got into a mini-argument on Twitch the other day about the endings. Which is a "happier" ending - Lord of Hollows, or the Betrayal (firekeeper ending)? Yuria says that becoming the Lord of Hollows will break the curse for good and usher in an age of man, but I'm not sure that we'll lead a very friendly kingdom. Yuria kind of leads you on re:Anri and has assassinations performed. And Londor (New Londo) didn't go so well! Meanwhile, in the Betrayal ending, the firekeeper removes the flame and...takes it with her? And she seems somewhat hopeful about the "small flames" in the distance, which I took to mean that a bunch of badasses will find it within themselves to be strong despite the dark. HellCopter fucked around with this message at 02:30 on May 2, 2016 |
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RatHat posted:I wonder if Yuria is lying or if that "marriage" is really how they do it in hollow land. Given that apparently in some versions of the ending your spouse is there and in some they aren't its really hard to know for sure.
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There are two interactive ending triggers: the First Flame and the Fire Keeper's summon sign. The second of those will only be present if you give the Eyes of a Fire Keeper to the Fire Keeper and talk to her about it. If you've flagged all the Usurpation events, interacting with the First Flame will give you the Usurpation of Fire ending; if you haven't flagged those events or you've cured the Dark Sigil entirely, you will get the Link the Fire ending. Regardless of those event flags, if you summon the Fire Keeper, she will begin to put out the flames. Let her do it for End of Flames, or attack her once you can control your character as the light starts to fade out; killing her gives the untitled and untrophied fourth ending which for the sake of simplicity I'll call Ash Seeketh Embers.RatHat posted:I wonder if Yuria is lying or if that "marriage" is really how they do it in hollow land. HellCopter posted:I got into a mini-argument on Twitch the other day about the endings. I kinda feel like Ash Seeketh Embers is the "proper" ending. It's very Berserk-y and we know Miyazaki loves that poo poo, plus it's the only ending without a trophy and to get it you have to remember Demon's Souls's second ending condition and think to try it without any prompting.
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How the gently caress do you get Patches to show up? I'm just before Abyss Watchers and he refuses to show up and trap me either in Firelink or in the Cathedral.
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As far as I know, getting him to appear in Firelink requires that you beat the cathedral boss first. Then go up the tower, take the elevator to the top and you should hear the door shut as you go up. Take the elevator back down and Patches should be there, waiting for you.
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StashAugustine posted:How the gently caress do you get Patches to show up? I'm just before Abyss Watchers and he refuses to show up and trap me either in Firelink or in the Cathedral. My surefire way to continue that quest is to open the big blue frontdoor to the Cathedral. Then Siegward appears in the well and Patches will show up anywhere that he can.
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I couldn't find him either place and it turned out he was over at his merchant spot he apologized for tricking me, which never happened
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Patches in Cathedral spawn method that has never failed for me: Go through the whole thing, don't take the secret route to Rosaria. Open the doors on the first floor past one of the giants. Take the final shortcut up to the main doors on the second floor and open them, then Quit Game and reload. Bridge should be up, Patches should be there. After the trap, go to the Rosaria side and Patches will be there again to apologize. Then go back to Firelink and he'll either be present as a merchant or will show up at the tower.
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I just remembered this video and I hope that there will be things as good as this in DS3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqacyIaq27o
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I thought it was a pretty boaring helmet.
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Sultan Tarquin posted:I just remembered this video and I hope that there will be things as good as this in DS3 I watched that whole thing.
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Where the gently caress is the Channeler's Trident FROM. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPRCKdJKMsI WHERE.
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So here's my totally crazy and asinine theory about the Deep; The Deep is the system of caves connected to the Majula pit from DS2. Why? Well, the Deep was used as a dumping ground for all sorts of poo poo people didn't want, which matches the purpose of the pit. Prior to being filled with all sorts of crap, it was considered a peaceful and sacred place, which would be a good description of Sanctum City prior to the Drakebloods loving everything up. One of few things we know about the Deep is that its full of insects, and that place had all sorts of nasties crawling around in it. And to really cap off this ridiculous theory, lets tie it to the idea that Aldrich ate Nito; where would he have found the remnants of his soul in the first place? In those caves, which is where the souls' previous owner the Rotten lived. Babe Magnet posted:I miss the pig head... The boar helmet combined with the porcine shield would of been too powerful.
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Fashion souls is getting better. Herald helm, Mirrah chest, Norther Gloves, Herald pants. Crest shield and Astora Straight Sword. I've put a heavy on a claymore and got it to +4 and it also looks quite dashing.
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Okay Patches finally deigned to show up in Firelink. I forget, should I buy the armor from him and give to to Siegward or does that gently caress up Greirat's quest?
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StashAugustine posted:Okay Patches finally deigned to show up in Firelink. I forget, should I buy the armor from him and give to to Siegward or does that gently caress up Greirat's quest? either way you're fine re: greirat if you dont buy siegward's gear from patches then when you send greirat out to pillage irithyll, you can tell patches where he's going. patches will then dress up using siegward's gear and help greirat out
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Internet Kraken posted:So here's my totally crazy and asinine theory about the Deep; It's a metaphor for the ocean and pollution. That's it.
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Nakar posted:She is wearing one of the crowns (or something like it, if you watch the DS3 intro trailer and the Crowns DLC trailers they are suspiciously alike) over her eyes. The Firekeeper's Soul you find is explicitly that of a Firekeeper who traveled to the Abyss and returned, so her soul is special and her affinity for the Abyss is what allows her soul to heal the Dark Sigil. Well Unkindled are undead that tried and failed to link the fire. I guess the whole burning up and being resurrected from ash makes them different from regular undead, and requires accepting sigils from a regular undead to have hollowing be a thing. HellCopter posted:I got into a mini-argument on Twitch the other day about the endings. I interpret the betrayal ending as the Firekeeper smothering the first flame. In this ending it finally dies out for good, leaving an eternal plane of darkness. But with the glimmer of hope that, eventually, tiny embers will flicker in that darkness. Whether that means a new flame being born, or that the world is one mostly of darkness but with the occasional flicker of light or something else is up to you, but it definitely seems to be the most hopeful ending to me. Which is probably why the variant where you kill her before that happens is the most bleak in tone.
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