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Rip is completely unlikable. The actor is terrible and the character. With Carter gone he's easily the worst part of the show. And unfortunately the main character on it.
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Apr 30, 2016 22:23
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X-O posted:Rip is completely unlikable. The actor is terrible and the character. With Carter gone he's easily the worst part of the show. And unfortunately the main character on it. He's miscast as gently caress, which is a shame because Darvill isn't that bad an actor in a fitting role but he really doesn't work as actiondude. Snart is the only character I like tbh, Palmer is distant second.
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Apr 30, 2016 22:33
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I still like Rory. I think what they did with his character makes sense - they found a way to keep him a part of the show without compromising his character. His irreconcilable differences really were, they didn't just decide "well, now he's a good guy."
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Apr 30, 2016 23:17
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Xelkelvos posted:Smart and Sara winning over girls throughout time. 
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Apr 30, 2016 23:36
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Sara Lance Time Lesbian is one of the better parts of this show
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May 1, 2016 01:13
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A new Birds of Prey series should be made with Sara as the lead and her team/harem
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May 1, 2016 01:15
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I like Stein. He plays the nerdy old man very well, and I like that he's really naive in some ways but also has a strong moral compass (despite having brought Jax on the trip against his will, which I blame on the terrible writers). Jax is cool too. He had a rocky start but recovered rather quickly. Snart and Rory are obviously awesome. Sarah is cool, but I feel like her character is written wrong. She used to be one of the top assassins in LoA. I dislike the way the writers in this show are giving her the role of Kendra's confidante in girly matters, and the way the two of them lost their minds over that baby at the hospital was very  Rip is an unmitigated disaster, and I think he and Carter are one of the primary reasons the show is so weak. Ray is likable, but both he and Kendra are being dragged down by the horrendous and creepy romance plot that's unfortunately central to the story.
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May 1, 2016 01:25
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Eh, the only reason they guy playing Jax isn't the worst actor on the show is because they cast the two dudes that play Rip and Carter. His character is one note, but the actor brings basically nothing to a one note character to try and salvage it.
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May 1, 2016 01:51
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It's hard to know how much is the acting and how much is the characters on paper just sucking. Darvill was quite good on That Other Show but he wasn't an angst-ridden exposition machine either. The characters that come off best are the ones that are least related to the lovely plot.
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May 1, 2016 03:41
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Darvill was also quite good in that other show with the actor from That Other Show but not the one he was on that show with at the same time, the other one.
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May 1, 2016 03:57
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I hope the season ends with them going back to ancient Egypt but the ship fails and becomes the meteor that starts the whole thing over again in a time loop.
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May 1, 2016 05:04
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enraged_camel posted:Ray is likable, but both he and Kendra are being dragged down by the horrendous and creepy romance plot that's unfortunately central to the story. What is it with all these shows and vanishing into a shithole of lame boring relationship drama anyway? Arrow did it and it loving sucked, Flash did it and it loving sucked, LOT is doing it and it loving sucks. When will they learn?
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May 1, 2016 05:26
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It's incredibly easy to write. Have nothing else to fill an episode with? Throw in some contrived relationship drama and resolve it in the back half or the next episode! And it makes for lazy cliffhangers in lieu of actual stakes. There's also possibly some some network editorial edict for it because it's the CW and some old white guy in charge thinks it's what women want to watch. So in other words, it's incompetence.
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May 1, 2016 05:42
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So clearly a big chunk of the season has been a plot by Vandal Savage to lure a Time Master into handing him a time machine. And Rip just brought him onto a time machine, and left him un-sedated in a glass box. So that worked. The only question left is "when did that plan start?" Did he only take over the world in the first place to provoke some dumb time traveler? Has it only been the past few decades, or has he been repeatedly trying world domination for thousands of years trying to get that outcome? "Goddamn it, I've subjugated half the globe and still no time travelers. What does a guy gotta do for a little trans-temporal attention? gently caress it, burn the empire, I'll start over. Again."
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May 1, 2016 06:42
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Xoidanor posted:The number one rule of Doesn't really matter if it involves time travel or not, it applies to everything. Magic, technology, whatever. If the plot of one episode relies on it working a particular way, it can't work differently in the next episode unless you explain why.
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May 1, 2016 07:37
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raditts posted:What is it with all these shows and vanishing into a shithole of lame boring relationship drama anyway? Arrow did it and it loving sucked, Flash did it and it loving sucked, LOT is doing it and it loving sucks. When will they learn? It's the network. They're simply pandering to their primary audience, which primarily consists of teenagers and young adults. It's not that relationship drama is always boring and dumb. CW's writers are just really bad at writing it.
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May 1, 2016 07:38
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The same people do not write every CW show.
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May 1, 2016 07:42
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Rhyno posted:The same people do not write every CW show. Why does it matter? They're all equally retarded. At least the ones writing the DC shows.
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May 1, 2016 07:42
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Tiggum posted:Doesn't really matter if it involves time travel or not, it applies to everything. Magic, technology, whatever. If the plot of one episode relies on it working a particular way, it can't work differently in the next episode unless you explain why. I feel like it's more egregious in Time Travel fiction though.
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May 1, 2016 07:46
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Xoidanor posted:I feel like it's more egregious in Time Travel fiction though. Why?
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May 1, 2016 10:25
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Just is? I did pre-face it with I feel for a reason. 
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May 1, 2016 10:38
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Rhyno posted:The same people do not write every CW show. The DC shows share some staff though, don't they? e: The superhero ones in the shared universe I mean. raditts fucked around with this message at 15:13 on May 1, 2016 |
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May 1, 2016 14:42
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Rhyno posted:The same people do not write every CW show. That's pretty obvious when you watch iZombie because their writing is tight as hell.
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May 1, 2016 15:05
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Robot Hobo posted:So clearly a big chunk of the season has been a plot by Vandal Savage to lure a Time Master into handing him a time machine. And Rip just brought him onto a time machine, and left him un-sedated in a glass box. So that worked. If this is what his plot turns out to be I'm not forgiving everything but it would go a long way in my mind to redeem parts of the show.
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May 1, 2016 17:05
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I don't want the plot to be literally the worst most overused villain cliche of the last ten years, "the villain got caught on purpose"
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May 1, 2016 17:08
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greatn posted:I don't want the plot to be literally the worst most overused villain cliche of the last ten years, "the villain got caught on purpose" So you mean it's probably exactly that.
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May 1, 2016 18:56
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Rip should have shot Carter in the head when Hawkgirl said she couldn't kill Savage.
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May 1, 2016 19:45
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X-O posted:Rip is completely unlikable. The actor is terrible and the character. With Carter gone he's easily the worst part of the show. And unfortunately the main character on it. Honestly I think Darvill handles the somber bits of Rip's character well enough, but he's not really an action lead type of guy.
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May 1, 2016 22:51
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Kendra is probably a worse written character than Rip by a small margin, but the actress actually adds a little something to the lovely character whereas the guy playing Rip adds nothing of value.
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May 1, 2016 23:12
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I feel like I wouldn't have as much sympathy for Savage destroying the world if not for Rip, so he has that going for him.
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May 1, 2016 23:15
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Confident action lead is one of types of roles that I don't think Darvill can play
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May 1, 2016 23:50
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Killing the hawks is what keeps Savage immortal, right? I mean it's not like he's just immortal and he does it for kicks, the fact that he tracks them down each time they reincarnate and kills them and sucks up their life mist or whatever is what keeps him going, right? So couldn't you pick up 2016 Kendra (and Carter too I guess) and just set her down in 2150 or something with a new identity/life, knowing that no new hawks were born since 2016 (since they hadn't died) and Savage probably lost his immortality mojo and died an old man around 2060 or something? Hell, shouldn't taking Kendra along on all these time ship adventures done that already, since she's been taken outside of the timeline? e: I just realized that for some reason I thought there wasn't an episode this week, but talk of Carter coming back may torpedo my drat ramblings. 
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May 2, 2016 00:14
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nooneofconsequence posted:Rip should have shot Carter in the head when Hawkgirl said she couldn't kill Savage. Yep. Also he's dead to her already in her timeline so killing him in 2166 won't affect her life in the slightest once the mission is complete and they go back. Besides, he was a boring idiot so Savage locking his mind or whatever is probably a step up.
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May 2, 2016 00:59
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WarLocke posted:Killing the hawks is what keeps Savage immortal, right? I mean it's not like he's just immortal and he does it for kicks, the fact that he tracks them down each time they reincarnate and kills them and sucks up their life mist or whatever is what keeps him going, right? Depends on how reincarnation works. You could die in 2166 and then reincarnate back to 2011. The Egyptian Magik won't be fooled by your time travel shenanigans.
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May 2, 2016 02:18
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enraged_camel posted:
Uh, that was baby Snart, so it was totally understandable.
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May 2, 2016 02:42
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twistedmentat posted:Uh, that was baby Snart, so it was totally understandable. Hmm, was it?
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May 2, 2016 03:11
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Maybe next season can be Booster Gold reluctantly fixing the mistakes of his lovely son?
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May 2, 2016 03:11
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Martout posted:Besides, he was a boring idiot so Savage locking his mind or whatever is probably a step up. The Waverider has a medical system so advanced that it can re-grow a working hand in a matter of minutes. Gideon has medical knowledge far in advance of anything Savage could possibly know about. Time travel gives them pretty easy access to THE experts on medicine, psychiatry, brainwashing, and probably actual magic and telepathy. All that plus the fact that there is no reason Savage WOULD ever un-do whatever he did. Or just kill Carter right now and pick him up again 5 minutes later by hopping forward another 30-some years, because it's clearly all the same, that's the entire point of Carter.
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WarLocke posted:Killing the hawks is what keeps Savage immortal, right? I mean it's not like he's just immortal and he does it for kicks, the fact that he tracks them down each time they reincarnate and kills them and sucks up their life mist or whatever is what keeps him going, right? greatn posted:Depends on how reincarnation works. You could die in 2166 and then reincarnate back to 2011. The Egyptian Magik won't be fooled by your time travel shenanigans.
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