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I mean, they obviously gave the Jeyne Poole storyline to Sansa because nobody watching the show knows who the gently caress Jeyne Poole is and nothing interesting happens to Sansa after Littlefinger pushes Lysa out the moon door anyway; it was a narrative economy thing and attempt to get us to care more about a storyline, just like sending Jaime to Dorne They just do them for mechanical reasons instead of good narrative ones, and it has a lot of consequences I don't think they even foresee (for example, making Sansa's wedding night more about Theon's horror than Sansa's, which would play a bit better if the victim was some character we barely knew anything about)
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Benjen tortures Willas to find out who took Lyanna, makes him "learn his name" (Hodor, Hodor rhymes with Hodor)
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May 2, 2016 05:44
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LabyaMynora posted:Maybe Dan and David are just sick of this show, only ever hoped to do the show up through the Red Wedding, and now would rather move on to another project. HBO wants 10 seasons. George R.R. Martin wants 10 seasons. Dan and David are the ones who want poo poo accelerated to get this show over with. Does that include books because if so loving lol at GRRM thinking he'll even make it that far At this point every fan of his has to be thinking they're lucky if he even finishes the current book he's "working" on
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LabyaMynora posted:
I kinda expect Book Ramsay to kill Book Roose too, but more of like in an unexpected outburst that neither of them expected. Granted it's been 4 or 5 years since I read DwD, but I seem to remember that the only time Ramsay acted like an adult and not like a psycho kid was around Roose, and it was hinted that he respected him out of fear, kinda like how Theon was afraid of Ramsay enough not to stab him while he was shaving him. Maybe Roose calls him shithead and failure one too many times till he snaps and stabs him.
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LabyaMynora posted:Thinking about the books, Melisandre, Shireen and Stannis's wife are all at Castle Black, while Davos is traveling the North playing diplomat, and Stannis is getting ready for war outside of Winterfell. Pretty sure Melisandre will end up burning Shireen to resurrect Jon because Jon is now her Azor Ahai, while convincing Mrs. Stannis that it's what the Lord of Light wants, or that it will help Stannis. this is a lot of words to write when you could've just said "Hey guys I totally loving suck" instead.
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Hey guys, dae think this tv show sucks and the books totally rule? Downvote me if you must.
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counterfeitsaint posted:Overall it was an enjoyable episode. I'm guessing it's the only way to move the plot forward at a reasonable speed. Before Roose was killed, Ramsay was talking about sending a Bolton army to the wall to kill Jon and get Sansa back Roose is way more prudent, and there's no good way they can write him to be a retard, just like there's also no good way to write a garrison of 3000 Bolton men losing Winterfell to some ragtag Wildlings
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Ague Proof posted:That must have been written before GRRM made the Northerners care so much about guest right. Greatjon threatened him and question Robb's right to rule, and his dog bite off fingers from a hand he raised. It was kinda like an ironic sign from God for a touh son of bitch like Greatjon
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Elias_Maluco posted:the way I understood it, the karstark guy was inside Ramsay plan, that's why he didn't looked even a bit surprised. Probably because he wanted to follow Ramsay idea of storming Castle Black to kill Jon and Sansa and knew Roose would never allow it, Yeah, book Karstarks are just as opportunistic and disloyal - Arnolf Karstarck pledges his support to Stannis in hopes that the Lannisters will execute Harrion Karstark, and then plans to betray Stannis at the battle on the lake.
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Rewatching the episode, just noticed they renamed the Seastone Chair into the "SALT THRONE" for whatever reason  This is going to see so much use in MMO forums.
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As someone who is (rightfully) harsh on the past two seasons I thought that was a good episode. The Ramsay stuff was dumb as hell but apart from that some good scenes and Euron looks like he's gonna be pretty cool. They played that well.
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May 2, 2016 05:59
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God, Ramsay is just the lamest loving character.
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This episode was so much better than last week's trash 5x11. Kingsmoot plot owns, Mel throwing some pube beard hair into fire and praying desperately owns, long scene of dragons owns. Lord Bolton was utter shite but it's beyond saving.
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lezard_valeth posted:Rewatching the episode, just noticed they renamed the Seastone Chair into the "SALT THRONE" for whatever reason I dunno, the salt throne seems like a pretty fitting term for anything the greyjoys sit on.
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LabyaMynora posted:Thinking about the books, Melisandre, Shireen and Stannis's wife are all at Castle Black, while Davos is traveling the North playing diplomat, and Stannis is getting ready for war outside of Winterfell. Pretty sure Melisandre will end up burning Shireen to resurrect Jon because Jon is now her Azor Ahai, while convincing Mrs. Stannis that it's what the Lord of Light wants, or that it will help Stannis. But book Sansa doesn't have a character arc so who cares. I am not sure Mel burning Shireen to revive Jon is better plot than what plays out in the show. That would basically make Mel an competent witch and justify her killing of Shireen. It makes book Stannis a reasonable guy sure, but people only like the show Stannis because Stephen Dillane is so awesome. Isn't the Selmy actor basically a nagging book reader? I would kill him off the first chance I get too.
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24-7 Urkel Cosplay posted:Yeah he was specifically very shifty and unsure with his actions, he wasn't planning any of this. that's how the scene seemed to me, but in the Talking About the SHow or whatever it's called, D&D said the intent was for this to be the climax of an (off-screen) master-level scheme. "That Karstark didn't seem surprised so he was definitely in on Ramsay's plan"
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I thought it was a good episode until I came here. All of the criticizing posts made good points. Now everything seems silly and ridiculous about it. For example, I didn't think much about it as it was happening but now that someone mentioned it, it is loving stupid that Theon wants to go home. What does he plan to do there? He should absolutely never leave Sansa's side until she's safely with Jon and then accept his beheading. Theon's interactions with Sansa were my favorite part of this season. Now he may be as useless as Jaime was in Dorne. Or worse, Ramsay will capture him again. gently caress Dave Hill.
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zVxTeflon posted:Why does legitimized Ramsay care about this second born son? idk how it works in westeros/the north but it's possible that that'd present a very serious challenge whenever roose dies especially if there's no evidence on paper anywhere that ramsay is legit or whatever it's most likely just because ramsay is a psychopathic weirdo, which is why ramsay does everything, which is why he's wearing so thin on people
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zVxTeflon posted:Why does legitimized Ramsay care about this second born son? Because Roose could decide Ramsay sucks and kill him and let the other son be the heir.
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zVxTeflon posted:Why does legitimized Ramsay care about this second born son? Why did nobodu care that there was a Targaryean at the wall forever. Why does Renly try to take the throne when it should be Stannis. Why does Stannis try to take the throne when it should be Joffery. Where the gently caress is Rickon and Natalie Tena Why does anyone care about anything. Because nothing means anything and it's the guy with the bigger sword who wins. drunken officeparty fucked around with this message at 06:18 on May 2, 2016 |
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When Karstark didn't react, I thought they were gonna throw a quick bone to the Alys stuff with a "About what we discussed earlier, you're right, your niece isn't an appropriate head of House Karstark."
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That and the Freys probably have more men at this point and would love to make one of their own Warden of the North.
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Season 6 trailer question - are there any images/clips of Theon that we haven't seen on the show yet? I can't think of any Theon moments that weren't from eps 1 or 2...
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zVxTeflon posted:Why does legitimized Ramsay care about this second born son? Either because it makes him expendable (perhaps even killable) to Roose, or he's taking a long view of maybe 20 years in the future, this half-brother of his will raise an army and seek to overthrow him on account of him being born a bastard and legitimized after the fact. That's even more likely if this hypothetical Ramsey was an unpopular leader, which of loving course he would be because he's Ramsey. Of course the latter requires Ramsey to plan ahead more than 15mins, so it's probably more the former.
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When Ramsay dies, who's going to be the next/final big bad Or is it just going to be "how long can everyone else last against the Walkers before they inevitably triumph and good finally reaches the lands"
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Maybe I've subconsciously lowered my expectations, but I felt that it was a pretty decent episode aside from the Boltons and Theon 'going home' Is it pretty much confirmed that the 'gift' Ramsey gets next week is Rickon? Because him getting caught offscreen is just lame and it makes that extra's spoiler post look more and more real. At least we're getting the Tower of Joy next week
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Chris James 2 posted:When Ramsay dies, who's going to be the next/final big bad Ramsay -> Euron -> White Walkers -> show ends
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Lycus posted:Ramsay -> Euron -> White Walkers -> show ends Littlefinger as well
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I guess Oshas dead. killed off screen never to be seen again
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Chris James 2 posted:When Ramsay dies, who's going to be the next/final big bad Daenerys
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I seriously hate Ramsay to the point that he's ruining the entire show. What a poo poo character
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zVxTeflon posted:I guess Oshas dead. killed off screen never to be seen again rip Tonks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ps4oREka88
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The thought of Osha dying off-screen after Natalia Tena made GRRM want to expand her role is hilarious.
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LabyaMynora posted:So the show kind of ruins Stannis's character Im always baffled when people say this. Book stannis is a raging psycho from the very first time you see him, yet for some reason people in here think the show has turned a good guy into a bad guy.
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So in 10, 20 years we're going to get a show called A Song of Ice & Fire that simply starts after Tywin's death and shows us what really happened to all our favorite characters and plotlines, right? Because all this poo poo that isn't Jon's storyline is loving terrible.
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Ramsay is feeding people to his dogs to prevent them being raised as wights. He is the greatest lord in the world.
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The actor that plays Rickon posted this picture some time during filming Regarding Kings Landing and Clegane Bowl, did the High Sparrow ever say that Cersei would get a trial? It kinda sounds like the walk of punishment was it for her on the show and given that they cut the valonquar part from the prophecy (which in the books is really, really important to explain a lot of her behavior) there is a decent chance that her death on the show will be different from the books.
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TheRat posted:Im always baffled when people say this. Book stannis is a raging psycho from the very first time you see him, yet for some reason people in here think the show has turned a good guy into a bad guy. Stannis's turn from the show trying to characterize him as a loving but clueless dad into a daughter slayer is a little weird and he should've had the reservations, not the wife (who is depicted in the book and show as more of a fanatic than Stannis) But there's definitely a thing where ppl who read these books sometimes take characters at face value or believe what they or other people say about them without scrutinizing it
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