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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

sinking belle posted:

When I was like 14 I taught a couple sixth formers in my house about a cool command called "net send *". the next morning everyone who logged onto the school computers was greeted with dozens of messages helpfully informing us about which teachers had big gaping vaginas. it was a lot harder to do fun computer stuff after that

While is was in SAP training (well before it was launched in our company so everything was basically stock) an old school-mate e-mailed me instructions on how to send pop-up messages to any username. A dude across the table was hell of annoying with his combination of arrogance and inability so I kept sending him cryptic "error messages" during exercises.

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Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
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Lipstick Apathy
The black parts of Hot Dog Stand should have been green for relish if you ask me

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

max4me posted:

This thread inspired me to dig through my boxes in storage.

I found these, gonna go searching for digital treasure



I had a few of those WD 40GB drives, they all died :( And did you miss the discussion (or was it in another thread) about "Death Stars"? :v:

Good luck though!

Dely Apple posted:

Aw the geocities doobie site is gone

Rip

Did you try http://www.oocities.org/ or any of the mirrors?

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Keith Atherton posted:

I started at MS the week Win 3.1 was released. My boss and two coworkers designed the desktop themes and all the icons. There was only so much you could do with the Windows 16 color palette. But even then it was made fun of.

But the Windows 3.0 default theme I recently posted used dithering to get extra colors, I wonder why the 3.1 default went back to solid colors? Maybe dithered colors look bad with interlaced monitors or something else historic like that :v:

Vanagoon
Jan 20, 2008


Best Dead Gay Forums
on the whole Internet!
I miss Dot Matrix Printers.

I don't miss the print quality. I miss the sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7O1cfOk4hs

And the sound of clickety old HDDs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh6sd-kdFFg

Together, these sounded like The Computer Is Doing Something Important.

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
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I still have my NEC Pinwriter P2200 and it still works decently. I actually use it for printing because you can still get the ribbons and they cost like nothing and last forever. You'd think running such a printer is lots of effort but as long as you have a proper parallel port to connect it to it's actually a breeze compared to the horrifying messes modern printers and printer drivers are. I barely print to begin with though, I'm pretty sure I'd change my tune if I had to print regularly with it.

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde

Buttcoin purse posted:

But the Windows 3.0 default theme I recently posted used dithering to get extra colors, I wonder why the 3.1 default went back to solid colors? Maybe dithered colors look bad with interlaced monitors or something else historic like that :v:

There might be a technical or performance reason for the solid color Win 3.1 themes. Not sure.

I got really good at dithering using the 16 color palette for icons and splash screens and what not for Office stuff. I know that the baseline for Office 97 apps was 640x480 and 16 colors. That was challenging.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Keith Atherton posted:

There might be a technical or performance reason for the solid color Win 3.1 themes. Not sure.

I got really good at dithering using the 16 color palette for icons and splash screens and what not for Office stuff. I know that the baseline for Office 97 apps was 640x480 and 16 colors. That was challenging.

I miss when Office had a functional utilitarian menu layout. The ribbon style that came years later pissed me off to no end!

a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Gary’s Answer
Modern GUI design philosophy: Let's hide our convoluted nonsense menus behind huge fisherprice-style icons.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Barney has a naive message about how we have to all love each other. It doesn't really have anything to say about how hard that can actually be, or have any actually practical advice on how to deal with negative emotions.

The lady who created Barney has a son who tried to murder somebody a couple years ago so that's some pretty good evidence of how her ideas work in practice.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
It's amazing how despite using the new office interface for years I'm still hunting down things all the time. Especially when it comes to editing object properties.

Plus lots of wasted space that forces things across the ribbon bar, such as Styles. Or elements that exist across two tabs, like Insert comments and review comments. Sure you can customise it, but the controls for that are pretty dense.

The old office interface got kind of clever before the revamp where it kept track of commonly clicked menu items and adapted depending on the user's preferences.

a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Gary’s Answer
Hey guys thanks for trotting out a string of huge pictures of different button styles like some sort of parade of homes

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


8 track betamax posted:

Hey guys thanks for trotting out a string of huge pictures of different button styles like some sort of parade of homes
Would you like to join my webring? At least sign my guest book.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

FilthyImp posted:

It's a giant, garishly colored purple dinosaur with a voice that sounds like Goofy's retarded inbred cousin and mannerisms that come out of a SPED class.

No one ever gives a poo poo about his triceratops buddy Baby Bop.

Barney also flew in the face of the 90s zeitgeist, preaching love and cooperation when cynicism was the rule of the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_uQKezUI8s

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
Wasn't the Barney song used as a form of psychological torture?

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Fooma posted:

Go hog wild! Minesweeper in the corner, solitaire in another, skifree embracing a triple-deep grouping window of applications > games > lucasarts

Who knows!

Man I totally missed out on skifree, everyone loved it aparently. I found it, it looks kinda neat.

What LucasArts game would you have running on Windows 3.x?



I wanted to do the emulator challenge at the same time so I have a DOS prompt where Windows is emulating CGA (can't seem to use VGA!) and I'm running a Sinclair ZX Spectrum emulator in that and you can see what game I'm playing. The movie was so good the game must be amazing right? No this was just the first emulator I found that would work in a window in Windows 3.x and I have no idea what games were popular on the ZX Spectrum. Well I found a CP/M emulator but I don't even know what to run in that.

I should probably tidy that up so the windows aren't off the edge of the screen, so it doesn't look so dumb when you display it on a bigger screen. Would you like any more random crap? I was thinking of installing Visual Basic and making a window with a goony catchphrase.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


You know what 90s PBS kids show people don't hate nowadays?

Arthur. Also it turns 20 in September and is still in production. Also I don't think anyone involved with it ever attempted any murder.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Buttcoin purse posted:

Man I totally missed out on skifree, everyone loved it aparently. I found it, it looks kinda neat.

What LucasArts game would you have running on Windows 3.x?



I wanted to do the emulator challenge at the same time so I have a DOS prompt where Windows is emulating CGA (can't seem to use VGA!) and I'm running a Sinclair ZX Spectrum emulator in that and you can see what game I'm playing. The movie was so good the game must be amazing right? No this was just the first emulator I found that would work in a window in Windows 3.x and I have no idea what games were popular on the ZX Spectrum. Well I found a CP/M emulator but I don't even know what to run in that.

I should probably tidy that up so the windows aren't off the edge of the screen, so it doesn't look so dumb when you display it on a bigger screen. Would you like any more random crap? I was thinking of installing Visual Basic and making a window with a goony catchphrase.

The Dizzy games I guess?

wafflemoose
Apr 10, 2009

Yeah I never understood why Microsoft decided to change Office and Windows and make them functionally worse. I mean what's so wrong with a start button and clearly labeled menus that they had to go and gently caress it up with this Ribbon and Metro nonsense? It's the reason why I stuck with Windows 7 and keep an old copy of Office 2000 around.

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I'm to the point where I can use ribbon, but it is still totally poo poo. I hate when I have to do anything where I have to step back and think "we'll what category would someone else think the thing I want would be?" And then see if it is under that. If you have to get into a certain mindset to use a program, it is designed wrong.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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I like the ribbon :saddowns:

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90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



So my parents bought a Tandy 1000 RLX back in 1990 or 91 and used it for a few years until it somehow broke. Then it wound up sitting on the floor in a corner of the living room for a few years until my mother finally decided to take it to a computer shop, at which point the shopkeeper pointed out the hilarious amounts of corrosion that occurred while it sat. Then it went back in the corner until we moved years later.

I managed to run across a working example of a similar RL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ0o-TyFEWA

Casimir Radon posted:

You know what 90s PBS kids show people don't hate nowadays?

Arthur. Also it turns 20 in September and is still in production. Also I don't think anyone involved with it ever attempted any murder.

Ah, 1990s-era PBS Kids shows. I wonder if anyone remembers Wishbone....

Leroy Dennui
Aug 9, 2014

Gina McCarthy made us gay,
but we would not have met
had Biden not dropped his cones
:gaysper::frogbon:

Tubesock Holocaust posted:

Ah, 1990s-era PBS Kids shows. I wonder if anyone remembers Wishbone....

I don't remember too much about the TV show, but I had a Jack Russell specifically because of Wishbone (which ended up being a nasty-rear end dog) and read a bunch of the books; my first time reading The Adventures of Tom Sawyer was through the bowdlerized Wishbone version.

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
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Starhawk64 posted:

Yeah I never understood why Microsoft decided to change Office and Windows and make them functionally worse. I mean what's so wrong with a start button and clearly labeled menus that they had to go and gently caress it up with this Ribbon and Metro nonsense? It's the reason why I stuck with Windows 7 and keep an old copy of Office 2000 around.

IT really loves reinventing the wheel. In some revisions the wheel actually turns out to be square. This is working as intended.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Police Automaton posted:

IT really loves reinventing the wheel. In some revisions the wheel actually turns out to be square. This is working as intended.

I remember when Linux distributions were better than Windows (98SE) in every way except peripheral support. Now they're all the shittest because of nerds. Oh and they still have poo poo support for peripherals.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Mak0rz posted:

I like the ribbon :saddowns:

Me too, it's not really functionally different from classic menus, except it has the most often used tools made more accessible.

Alpenglow
Mar 12, 2007

Somewhere there might be a remaining copy of a book circa 1995 of "Top 100 Sites on the WWW!" that contained a bunch of site urls and brief descriptions. Most were revolutionary things like a 120x90px webcam of model trains, or an amusing manifesto (caution: almost 100kb!)

Somewhere in that book, was "The Jihad to Destroy Barney on the World Wide Web".

Oh what gentle times those were. :allears:




...holy poo poo, it still exists!

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
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Jerry Cotton posted:

I remember when Linux distributions were better than Windows (98SE) in every way except peripheral support. Now they're all the shittest because of nerds. Oh and they still have poo poo support for peripherals.

Linux and it's software landscape as desktop is good if you're ok with editing configuration files by hand, (gasp) RTFM, and getting to know how everything you wanna use works, tailoring exactly the system you want to have, because you got a lot of choice and flexibility there to really have exactly the environment you want to have. It's bad when it tries to be some kind of off-brand windows and that Linux software is by definition lightweight and well-made is the worst myth ever. It can be but there's also tons of lovely and badly maintained bloatware in development hell, but again choice is the keyword here. The popular distributions in their quest to be the easy-to-use aforementioned Windows knock-off are not really about choice anymore and that's ignoring one of the biggest strengths this particular software landscape and the philosophy behind it has. I've been running the same Gentoo installation for I think about ten years across several computers now, all software is exactly the way I want it and I wouldn't really want to have it any other way. (and I don't have to) Since my current desktop PC I've been running Win10 in a VM with VGA passthrough if I want to play games (rare these days) and it works really nice. Certainly not the path for everyone but I can't complain. I guess the biggest problem about nerds these days is that they're not really nerds. Also cynical ignorance and wanting/needing to know how something you use actually works being a negative thing for some reason.

Fooma
Oct 15, 2010

nom nom nom

Buttcoin purse posted:



I should probably tidy that up so the windows aren't off the edge of the screen, so it doesn't look so dumb when you display it on a bigger screen. Would you like any more random crap? I was thinking of installing Visual Basic and making a window with a goony catchphrase.

It's beautiful. I'm now hunting for low-res icons for Chrome and Recycle Bin to overlay in the application window.

Thank you. I'll leave it to you or others to suggest additions if you want to keep picking at it.

max4me
Jun 15, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Buttcoin purse posted:

I had a few of those WD 40GB drives, they all died :( And did you miss the discussion (or was it in another thread) about "Death Stars"? :v:

Good luck though!


Did you try http://www.oocities.org/ or any of the mirrors?

Sadly i broke the deskstar broke a pin on it.


I didnt find much i think back in the early 2000 i would constantly flatten and re install xp.

Did find the hard drive that had DC++ on it when I was in college

I also found my mp3 folder so I can look at the dates I got the first mp3 I ever downloaded back in 1999.

some demo for an irish band.

Also i found some sailor moon mp3's....sigh the folly of youth

kilogram
Mar 29, 2012

Cyborg Senator

Mak0rz posted:

Does anyone remember those puzzle websites that required you to fish around the page's code or and do other such poo poo to find solutions and go on to the next page? Many of them were creepy as gently caress and in a way were precursors to modern-day cryptic viral marketing ARGs.

One of them was http://thisisnotporn.com/, which seems to have been updated for modern browsers? I'm not sure. I remember the page title ("Something Terrible Has Happened") and content ("Madge Was Her Name. Please Wait Here.") being the same, but I can't remember how to progress. It's possible only the front page is kept for relic/nostalgia purposes and the rest of the site is dead. :iiam:

This Is Not Porn was notorious for being very, very difficult to solve. Myself and a couple of friends managed to make it to page three or four ourselves and that's about it. An "easier" puzzle trying to cash in on its popularity was eventually made at http://notpron.org/notpron/levelone.htm, and that one is still alive in its full old glory! We made it further into that one.

I should add that though they contain "porn" and "pron" in the urls the sites are both otherwise totally safe for work.

Tell me more! The front page of TINP is intriguing.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
When I used to use DC++ there were servers you couldn't connect to unless your share was off a certain size so I found a way around that. In Windows I would share a folder using Windows file sharing, then map a drive to it on my own computer (net use n: \\localhost\warez) a few times with different drive letters. Then in my dc++ share, just add each of those mapped drive letters so i could represent my shared folder as triple or quadruple the actual size of it.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Alpenglow posted:

Somewhere there might be a remaining copy of a book circa 1995 of "Top 100 Sites on the WWW!" that contained a bunch of site urls and brief descriptions. Most were revolutionary things like a 120x90px webcam of model trains, or an amusing manifesto (caution: almost 100kb!)

Somewhere in that book, was "The Jihad to Destroy Barney on the World Wide Web".

Oh what gentle times those were. :allears:




...holy poo poo, it still exists!

I remember downloading Day of the Barney over my 2400 baud modem from my local WWIV board and reading it like I was privy to some kind of dark knowledge and should set up a mirror to see if my mom was coming into the room.

Clayton Bigsby
Apr 17, 2005

Jerry Cotton posted:

While is was in SAP training (well before it was launched in our company so everything was basically stock) an old school-mate e-mailed me instructions on how to send pop-up messages to any username. A dude across the table was hell of annoying with his combination of arrogance and inability so I kept sending him cryptic "error messages" during exercises.

TH_POPUP! :D

I remember when we figured out how to change the standard "READY" message on HP printers via PCL commands. We had a grand time trying to get people to do increasingly absurd things with them. "PLEASE ROTATE PAPER STACK" was a particularly good one, especially if it was immediately followed by a "THANK YOU".

Back in the days, I wrote a small program that attached itself to the printer interrupt on the school PCs, storing the past dozen or so characters in a buffer and replacing certain things like "night" instead of "day" and "yesterday" instead of "today". People would print out their papers, read them through, look thoroughly confused, and then go back and recheck their work...

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Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Whatever happened to Jenny Cam? Didn't she stop because PayPal considered her site as porn?


Speaking of Porn, sites like CarolCox.com and WifeysWorld.com are still producing content.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

Bonzo posted:

Whatever happened to Jenny Cam? Didn't she stop because PayPal considered her site as porn?


Speaking of Porn, sites like CarolCox.com and WifeysWorld.com are still producing content.

Along with solving the GIF mystery, reply all has you covered on this one, too.

a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Gary’s Answer

Police Automaton posted:

Linux and it's software landscape as desktop is good if you're ok with editing configuration files by hand, (gasp) RTFM, and getting to know how everything you wanna use works, tailoring exactly the system you want to have, because you got a lot of choice and flexibility there to really have exactly the environment you want to have. It's bad when it tries to be some kind of off-brand windows and that Linux software is by definition lightweight and well-made is the worst myth ever. It can be but there's also tons of lovely and badly maintained bloatware in development hell, but again choice is the keyword here. The popular distributions in their quest to be the easy-to-use aforementioned Windows knock-off are not really about choice anymore and that's ignoring one of the biggest strengths this particular software landscape and the philosophy behind it has. I've been running the same Gentoo installation for I think about ten years across several computers now, all software is exactly the way I want it and I wouldn't really want to have it any other way. (and I don't have to) Since my current desktop PC I've bWhoaeen running Win10 in a VM with VGA passthrough if I want to play games (rare these days) and it works really nice. Certainly not the path for everyone but I can't complain. I guess the biggest problem about nerds these days is that they're not really nerds. Also cynical ignorance and wanting/needing to know how something you use actually works being a negative thing for some reason.

Good grief.... when did this thread become a gathering place for all the wierdos and perverts???

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

Mak0rz posted:

I like the ribbon :saddowns:

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Lol

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
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8 track betamax posted:

Good grief.... when did this thread become a gathering place for all the wierdos and perverts???

I can't be so bad, I've never been modded.

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Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

So I guess the problem with the Office ribbon is that with menus you had to mostly only hunt through two levels - the actual menu names themselves as shown in the menu bar, and then all the options in each menu, whereas the ribbon has more nesting? I don't know, once I moved from Office 2003 to 2007 I stopped being a power user and just do the bare minimum in Office. In Office 95 and 97 I used to customize my toolbar, in 2000 I wrote a custom template with dialog boxes that interacted with Outlook, but now I barely even bother with styles, I just reverted to being like the common denominator of Office users.

Fooma posted:

It's beautiful. I'm now hunting for low-res icons for Chrome and Recycle Bin to overlay in the application window.

You should use Internet Explorer 1.0 and then some kind of undelete tool. I can't remember - if you had DOS 6.x, did it come with a Windows version of UNDELETE.EXE? Or maybe it was PC Tools that had an Undelete for Windows.

quote:

Thank you. I'll leave it to you or others to suggest additions if you want to keep picking at it.

Well, I had a look and failed to find:

Jerry Cotton posted:

The Dizzy games I guess?


max4me posted:

I didnt find much i think back in the early 2000 i would constantly flatten and re install xp.

Yeah, as you would, but that's a bummer :( I think on my first XP machine I had a bunch of folders around from when I reinstalled and ended up with a new home directory, so the old one was still there somewhere. What a mess!

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