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GET INTO DA CHOPPA posted:I've played Teemo a lot. His biggest weakness imo is that while he's able to bully early, he's not in a position to be able to trade very well and stay in lane. What's the full build after Mallet?
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Swain is going to be really good on 6.9 and is flying under people's radars atm
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May 2, 2016 20:24
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yeah, the swain changes are all small but pretty meaningful
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May 2, 2016 20:25
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Hextech Protobelt makes the bard main in me jingle with anticipation gonna land the rudest binds
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May 2, 2016 20:35
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GET INTO DA CHOPPA posted:So far I've really dominated a Nasus with this build, and won lane enough to contribute to the wins against a bunch of others. The hardest matchups would be champions like Trundle, Xin, Jarvan and other champions with an easy gapcloser or way to keep you in place. I once owned a nasus in lane, then he hit like lvl 6 and the first part of spirit visage and I couldn't do poo poo anymore. does mallet really do anything? like you're still doing no damage and he can just run at your with wither and q you twice for more than half your life. idk, that man just gets too much sustain so like teemo falls off hard if he hits 5 and you don't have a 2 level advantage. also I'm bad at dealing with nasus. like grasp of the undying lets him trade pretty well after lvl 4 it seems with most tops.
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May 2, 2016 20:35
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Tales of Woe posted:i still keep coming back to CDR on zhonyas/abyssal as the Biggest Deal out of all the mage-related changes, that's a buff to a lot of ap assassins and bruisers moreso than the mages Abyssal is definitely nerfed relative to before. It is a ridiculous outlier in terms of gold-efficiency right now and the strongest first item rush against AP midlaners by far.
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May 2, 2016 20:38
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Leblanc is going to be a monster with protobelt unless they nerfed it
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May 2, 2016 20:43
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Oh jesus, you're right.
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May 2, 2016 20:46
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yeah leblanc and diana especially can use that item far too well when they dash into melee range. they're probably going to be rebalanced with it in mind but the item wasn't really intended for assassins i dont think. they should make the fireballs originate offset from the centre of your champion so they don't all hit someone you're in melee range of.
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May 2, 2016 20:49
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gonna enjoy that on akali a lot
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May 2, 2016 20:52
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Any champion that benefits from enhanced mobility on a slot efficient item will use that item so basically every AP champion will buy it.
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May 2, 2016 20:54
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Some supports will buy it too for better engage. It's a loving dumb item, the solution to mobility creep is not even more mobility, it's to start gutting the damage of hypermobile champions.
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May 2, 2016 20:56
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Firebert posted:Swain is going to be really good on 6.9 and is flying under people's radars atm Radical posted:yeah, the swain changes are all small but pretty meaningful What actually changed about Swain? I figured he was going to be strong just due to the change to Catalyst/RoA.
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May 2, 2016 21:11
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his passive mana and ult heal both got increased because of the preseason mana changes and wota removal, his Q is an aoe now that prioritizes targets with E on them and also lasts longer now and deals 100% bonus damage to creeps, the E gains the level 5 damage amp from level 1 now. pre-6 you can presumably use the q to clear waves (and i would imagine you don't want to max e over q now) so your 1-5 isn't as bad. his damage early game should overall be stronger and most of the new items are good on him. e. i misremembered the ult changes, he summons 5 ravens instead of 3 but they heal for slightly less from creeps Radical fucked around with this message at 21:31 on May 2, 2016 |
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May 2, 2016 21:20
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Radical posted:his passive mana and ult heal both got increased because of the preseason mana changes and wota removal, his Q is an aoe now that prioritizes targets with E on them and also lasts longer now and deals 100% bonus damage to creeps, the E gains the level 5 damage amp from level 1 now. pre-6 you can presumably use the q to clear waves (and i would imagine you don't want to max e over q now) so your 1-5 isn't as bad. his damage early game should overall be stronger and most of the new items are good on him. So they took away his early game weaknesses and compensated him for nerfs to items he doesn't build while changing his big core item to be even better for his play style? I'm all aboard the Swain train then.
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May 2, 2016 21:33
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riot's problem is they create these items thinking to prop immobile champions up when compared to mobile ones, except there is nothing to stop these champions with mobility from using these items too, multiplying their power so that they're even further ahead in terms of power than they were before.
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May 2, 2016 21:34
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swain with actual wave control is a disturbing thought
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May 2, 2016 21:37
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his autoattack will still suck though
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May 2, 2016 21:39
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i played yasuo for the first time yesterday and his autoattack comes out so freaking fast, i was amazed and now understand why bad yasuo players still manage to outfarm me on the regular
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May 2, 2016 21:42
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The real part of the Hextech belt that will be crazy, is the damage component on champs that already have a way of getting on you. On a full build, assuming you can hit all (or even most) of the procs, it does like 400 - 500 damage. On champions that already have ways of getting into melee range (and thus landing all the bolts), like Diana or Akali, that's a high amount of damage, not even counting the additional utility.
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May 2, 2016 22:00
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seizure later posted:riot's problem is they create these items thinking to prop immobile champions up when compared to mobile ones, except there is nothing to stop these champions with mobility from using these items too, multiplying their power so that they're even further ahead in terms of power than they were before. riot always end up solving the opposite of whatever problem they were trying to fix. dfg was apparently supposed to help mages kill tanks (???) but instead it just meant that matt leblanc could qr you
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May 2, 2016 22:11
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I miss W - DFQ - Q - R Lebonk combos killing squishies without having to land E. Back then I could actually kill people with her, despite my severe disabilities.
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May 2, 2016 22:25
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Zmej posted:I once owned a nasus in lane, then he hit like lvl 6 and the first part of spirit visage and I couldn't do poo poo anymore. does mallet really do anything? like you're still doing no damage and he can just run at your with wither and q you twice for more than half your life. idk, that man just gets too much sustain so like teemo falls off hard if he hits 5 and you don't have a 2 level advantage. With boots3, his W and mallet, Nasus will never be in range for Q. Mallet means your damage output is like 50/50 physical/magic, so it's hard to itemize against. If you auto him once, you will always get off 4-5 autos and 1-2 GotU proccs, due to being so sticky, so he will never be able to sustain through it. Aerox posted:What's the full build after Mallet? Mallet will be finished before the laning phase is over, assuming you know how to CS. Rageblade turns you into a splitpushing menace, while liandrys increases makes your mushrooms actually hurt instead of just acting as slowing wards.
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May 2, 2016 23:22
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slydingdoor posted:It's a Vayne tumble with ...Blitz Ekko Elise Eve Fizz Gragas Kassadin Kennen Lissandra Nautilus Nidalee Zac and YOU.
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http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/50043186#matches this guy mains teemo at high elo and seems to usually go corruption potion and buy swifties and / or defensive stats on his first back. you can find watch his stream here: https://www.twitch.tv/ipav999 Personally i'm trying to watch the master tier mordekaiser guy get a real game, every time i try to watch he is in queue or the other team has opened mid slydingdoor posted:It's a Vayne tumble with three quarters of an Ahri W at the end. Because Riot design goals vs results usually don't quite match up I'm gonna bet against them and say Rocket Belt becomes an item that buffs "dive/initiate harder" champs more than "initiate without flash" champs who will still suck and need an instant, wall jumping blink to accomplish anything. I bet it will be built on the likes of Ahri Akali Fiddlesticks Diana Katarina Leblanc and any other already mobile "get-in" AP assassin I forgot or appears because of reworks or is released. qtpie built the dash blaster on PBE and realized it acts like the old shotgun ashe volley. it also scales off your max AP, so it's broken as gently caress if it goes to live that way
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May 3, 2016 00:51
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Alright this tidal wave of lunatic draven mains that freak the gently caress out when they die and tilt off the face of the earth's getting super old
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May 3, 2016 01:26
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not draven. draven draven
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May 3, 2016 01:27
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I have no idea how that contributes anything whatsoever other than you typing the word draven three times and throw a not in front of it
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May 3, 2016 01:29
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Zmej posted:does mallet really do anything? the age old question - asked since beta - finally answered: no GET INTO DA CHOPPA posted:So far I've really dominated a Nasus with this build i wish there were other ways to counter nasus in lane, but alas
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May 3, 2016 01:35
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Gibberish posted:Of course it still exists, but in general once you get to mid-ish Platinum you'll probably find that people know how to close out games more often than not. I'd say that the number of times a team in Gold throws is like 30% of the time. Diamond 5 it's like 1% of the time. how do you define throwing in this case? just losing a lead? and at any rate, its almost certainly way higher than 1% unless you mean a comeback from something like a triple inhib + baron
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May 3, 2016 01:37
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Servaetes posted:Alright this tidal wave of lunatic draven mains that freak the gently caress out when they die and tilt off the face of the earth's getting super old tyler1 is a cool and funny dude!!!!!! 
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May 3, 2016 01:37
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Verviticus posted:the age old question - asked since beta - finally answered: no This is a good post. Thanks for contributing to our Teemo discussion.
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May 3, 2016 01:38
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some guy said something about tyler1 and i said i didnt know who he was and then the guy got mad at me. i still dont know who tyler1 is and i think im gonna continue not knowing no matter how many people try to tell me
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May 3, 2016 01:38
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Servaetes posted:Alright this tidal wave of lunatic draven mains that freak the gently caress out when they die and tilt off the face of the earth's getting super old
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May 3, 2016 01:39
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GET INTO DA CHOPPA posted:This is a good post. Thanks for contributing to our Teemo discussion. you're welcome. i love to contribute to teemo discussion. here's more: grasp is good, corrupting is good, ap is good, play a thousand games of him and you too can win 51% of your games like all the teemo superstars RealFoxy posted:Draven is the new Vayne. Just replace "tumble into enemy team" with "Stand still trying to stack axes" i maintain that seeing a draven panic and blow merc, ghostblade and his w to escape at 99999999999 speed, axes twirling away is the funniest thing ive seen in league of legends
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Verviticus posted:you're welcome. i love to contribute to teemo discussion. here's more: grasp is good, corrupting is good, ap is good, play a thousand games of him and you too can win 51% of your games like all the teemo superstars None has denied that Teemo is a bad champion. What we were discussing were how to make a champion work despite not being the MLG pro choice. I assume discussing less played champions is allowed, judging by the Urgot fanfictions from previous threads.
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May 3, 2016 01:50
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im the teemo police. teemo discussion not allowed
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May 3, 2016 01:51
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on a scale of one to teemo, how many teemos do you go through before you find a teemo that delays his inevitable loss by more than 10 minutes
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May 3, 2016 01:53
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Lol. Anyway, I'm enjoying playing Teemo again, and even if he's not an optimal choice in any games, he's still the champion with the most character in the game, and I enjoy salty top lane tears.
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GET INTO DA CHOPPA posted:None has denied that Teemo is a bad champion. What we were discussing were how to make a champion work despite not being the MLG pro choice. I assume discussing less played champions is allowed, judging by the Urgot fanfictions from previous threads. Split push and buy liandry's. Get good at kiting. Pick a god and pray that you dont lane against a real top laner who knows how to play. that's pretty much it
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