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Not a Step posted:If you really believed in Convention Chaos you could make quite a few bucks If Trump gets up to say 95, I'd say you'd be getting good value to bet against him. If this season has taught us anything, it's that you never loving know what is going to happen. Just imagine if the election gods saved the best twist for last...
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Montasque posted:https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/727248402803740674 This is one of many things that would be great for Hillary when she gets elected, but is gonna be bad for her in the election. The Iraq war architects don't like Trump but like Hillary, and they'll say it's because he's unpredictable and dangerous, but most people won't believe that - especially if Trump gets a general for VP like all the "top pundits" seem to think is his best option.
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Montasque posted:https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/727248402803740674 They'll feel right at home with Hillary as POTUS.
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May 2, 2016 22:42
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Joementum posted:Seems like he's thought through this whole "politics" thing. "Trump's hotels and golf courses are nice, so there's no way he doesn't know how to run a country!" -a very dumb old person or ycs poster.
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May 2, 2016 22:43
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May 2, 2016 22:44
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Montasque posted:https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/727248402803740674 I kind of doubt it. Neocons are still out of fashion for most of the party, and even Clinton herself seems to be way less hawkish than she used to be. Her role in negotiating the Iran Deal is proof of that IMO. Yes, that is taking into account the horrible idea of the no-fly zone, although logistically, I don't think that's a campaign promise she could hope to fulfill anyway.
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May 2, 2016 22:45
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Montasque posted:https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/727248402803740674 Neo-con + neo-liberal, friends for life. Gonna call it the NeoAmerica party.
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May 2, 2016 22:47
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Montasque posted:https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/727248402803740674 Some of them will come around to Trump and some, like Jennifer Rubin, were Democrats who didn't know it all along.
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May 2, 2016 22:47
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He knew the risks when he signed up
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May 2, 2016 22:49
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May 2, 2016 22:52
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Top Bunk Wanker posted:Some of them will come around to Trump and some, like Jennifer Rubin, were Democrats who didn't know it all along. Rubin was a Democrat for a while. She turned hard-right with 9/11. I doubt the Democratic establishment would have anythign to do with her - she's way too hawkish to be in-step with the current Democratic foreign policy/national security platform. Clinton's likely to keep with Obama's pivot between Saudi Arabia and Iran, and Rubin really has no place in such a strategy. Plus she's just an awful person on pretty much all fronts. She can register for whichever party she likes, of course, but she won't have a place at anyone's table.
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May 2, 2016 22:55
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Awwww what's the matter is the widdle marinie afraid he'll see combat? What a dumb thing to bitch about, being bossed around by someone whose nickname is Killary would be something they'd be hooting for if it was R Lee Emery instead of a old woman in a pantsuit
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May 2, 2016 22:55
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Killary: i'm in your base, killin your doodz
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May 2, 2016 22:57
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Bill Kristol still wants to run that third party Neo-con candidate. I'm sure that will go well.
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Weird variant of the never talk to me or my son again meme but I like it
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May 2, 2016 22:59
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Trump's delegate count, state by state polling and national polling are basically double that of Cruz at this point. How is this not declared over by everyone and bloodshed faced to?
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May 2, 2016 23:02
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Oiled and Ready posted:People are looking too much at Europe's alt-right in saying it can't catch here with more than a fringe group. America is not as educated as Europe, not as tolerant as Europe, not as liberal as Europe. There are 2 big factors that worry me about trump and the alt right. Firstly, trump doesn't give a poo poo about policy and would enact hard alt right politics if he knew it could keep him popular and in power with his base. plus he is enough of a bigot to not give a poo poo about the ones hurt. secondly, even if trump loses, his platform and tactics have now open the door for the election of much scarier hard right wing nutjobs.
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May 2, 2016 23:03
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Hahahahaha Lou Holtz just endorsed Trump. Sorry guys, Indiana is officially loving over. No convention chaos 
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May 2, 2016 23:07
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Grey Fox posted:If Killary is anything like Kildar, then I understand and share his concern. I just want you to know that I too share the horrible burden of knowing.
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May 2, 2016 23:07
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So about Trump getting 1237+ delegates. In primaries past, once a candidate appeared to have the nomination squared away (and certainly once they had a majority of pledged delegates), planning of the convention would be given over to their campaign - but that seems to have been somewhat informal, since they aren't "officially" the nominee until the convention, and reflects how the conventions are mostly used as publicity platforms. If Trump gets to 1237+ and they refuse to hand over planning of the convention, that can really only mean treachery is afoot, and it would be up to the RNC to make that statement and stand by such a decision for over a month as Trump rallies against them. On the other hand, if they hand it over, even though Cruz may have the grit to rewrite the rules by taking over the relevant committee to make himself the nominee that would become just a little bit more difficult to pull off in a convention organized by Trump - I could see Trump scheduling the Rules Committee to meet on-stage and on-camera, so any rules chicany has to be done live in front of Roger Stone's "non-violent" mob of Stop the Steal supporters. There's so many hands and factions involved. The RNC gets to pick the chairman of the rules' committee and there's all kinds of procedural fuckery to be done there like taking a voice vote and hearing what you want to hear. The delegates themselves are only guaranteed to nominate Trump if the first ballot goes as planned, but weird state restrictions and the wild makeup of the individual delegates makes the result of a second or third ballot unknown. Establishment figures have abandoned attending the convention in droves but also removed the chance of any moderating voices as it's otherwise given over to Trump and Cruz true believers. It might even be to their benefit to appear as powerless in the process as possible, so if Cruz affects a steal they can hope he'll take most of the blowback. I think we could absolutely still see convention chaos if Trump wins a majority, and we might even see it earlier.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:There are 2 big factors that worry me about trump and the alt right. Firstly, trump doesn't give a poo poo about policy and would enact hard alt right politics if he knew it could keep him popular and in power with his base. plus he is enough of a bigot to not give a poo poo about the ones hurt. Trump's alt-right wouldn't hurt American citizens, though, because the only group of Americans the alt-right would really feel sated with hurting he wouldn't be insane enough to go after. I feel you on "opening the door", though.
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May 2, 2016 23:12
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Levin sounds hammered and slurry today. He's not willing to give up yet, thinks Cruz can snake it all away!
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May 2, 2016 23:14
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Joementum posted:Seems like he's thought through this whole "politics" thing. Coach Urbs, please get on the MAGA bandwagon!
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May 2, 2016 23:16
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Trump probably doesn't know he should organize the convention and who's going to tell him?
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Epic High Five posted:What a dumb thing to bitch about, being bossed around by someone whose nickname is Killary would be something they'd be hooting for if it was R Lee Emery instead of a old woman in a pantsuit Alternatively, imagine if Trump was female. How much traction would a woman have gotten by saying a fraction of his bullshit until she was called shrill and a bitch? A large portion of Trump's support seems to come from the ridiculous and ironic strongman persona he has, and that simply doesn't work with the right wing if you lack a penis.
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Jewel Repetition posted:Trump just said "we can't continue to be the policemen of the world," like a Democrat would in the 2000s, and got roaring applause. Uh, that was an old-school GOP line. "Bush on US Role in Yugoslavia: We're not the world's policeman," June 12, 1992 https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1992/06/12/bush-on-us-role-in-yugoslavia-were-not-the-worlds-policeman/
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Alt-righties getting ultra-paranoid and shooting up places over insane mythological things like "FEMA death camps" hasn't exactly been an unheard-of thing over the past eight years, unfortunately. Regardless of whether or not it has been Trump's intention, by harping on some of that paranoia and using it to fuel his campaign, he is helping make alt-right violence more normalized. I fully expect there to be more pro-Trump, alt-right violence between now and November, unfortunately.
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Grey Fox posted:If Killary is anything like Kildar, then I understand and share his concern. Even worse, what if she's really Kilgrave from "Jessica Jones"?
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hell is hungry https://twitter.com/theryanparker/status/727183709795815424
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Majorian posted:Even worse, what if she's really Kilgrave from "Jessica Jones"? He's a classy guy with a decent sense of humor. I think we could have worse.
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TheTatteredKing posted:Trump probably doesn't know he should organize the convention and who's going to tell him? Nah he's already said they're always boring, dry affairs and he's going to make this one worth watching. He spoke at an RNC convention in '88 or '92, he knows a lot more about the inside baseball than he lets on. He's an "outsider" like a guy with box seats at Yankee Stadium who drinks and watches with the owners is an outsider. You all only believed him when he said he didn't know what a "ground game" was because you wanted to believe.
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Majorian posted:Even worse, what if she's really Kilgrave from "Jessica Jones"? Yeah, gonna say Kilgrave isnt worse than the Kildar. Not by an order of magnitude. Nichael posted:Alternatively, imagine if Trump was female. How much traction would a woman have gotten by saying a fraction of his bullshit until she was called shrill and a bitch? A large portion of Trump's support seems to come from the ridiculous and ironic strongman persona he has, and that simply doesn't work with the right wing if you lack a penis. Counterpoint: Sarah Palin
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radical meme posted:Is there anybody that currently posts in this thread that supports Ted Cruz? Is there anybody that posts here since the first of the year that supports Cruz? I can't think of anyone and I visit here almost daily. I saw a Cruz sticker on a car the other day. Also, he lives a few miles from where I saw the car so maybe it was his wife.
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Majorian posted:Rubin was a Democrat for a while. She turned hard-right with 9/11. I doubt the Democratic establishment would have anythign to do with her - she's way too hawkish to be in-step with the current Democratic foreign policy/national security platform. Clinton's likely to keep with Obama's pivot between Saudi Arabia and Iran, and Rubin really has no place in such a strategy. Plus she's just an awful person on pretty much all fronts. She can register for whichever party she likes, of course, but she won't have a place at anyone's table. Rubin was hired at the Post specifically to blog as a right-winger, so her whole job depends on keeping up the act.
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Not a Step posted:Yeah, gonna say Kilgrave isnt worse than the Kildar. Not by an order of magnitude. I don't think Palin utilized a strongman persona, as much as a common sense, rural folksiness attitude. The latter is a lot more doable as a woman. I suppose it could be argued that she did some of both though.
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