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Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
That sounds amazing

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Kuroyama
Sep 15, 2012
no fucking Anime in GiP

Rhonne posted:

I still expect Deku to get involved at some point before this is all over through.

I think he might try to run in and grab Bakugou while All for One and All Might fight.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Yaoyorozu and Jirou trailers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjTkg6aVamo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHp-XqZuLRw

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Kyouka is rocking out.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

Ytlaya posted:

Speaking of which, how in the world could Deku's progress be convincingly and satisfying exhibiting beyond this point? As you said, at this point it's mostly a matter of him going from being able to use 5% (or whatever) of One for All to 100% without breaking his body, which seems like it would be a rather linear process. I'm not sure how he can show noticeable growth between battles without significant time skips if this is the case.

One angle they could take is Deku figuring out how to manifest the boosts to durability and speed that All Might seems to benefit from.

I'm putting my money on Horikoshi sticking to the original premise of Deku being a giant loving nerd about super heroes and when given an insane amount of power, comes up with completely novel ways of applying it that the previous One for All owners didn't think of. They've already made a big enough deal about how Deku doesn't really approach things in the same way someone born with a quirk would.

Zero_Tactility
Nov 25, 2007

Look into my eyes.
I would also be down for Captain Haddock swearing from Bakugou.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Fabricated posted:

That's probably what will happen really. The whole thing about using his power is the "image" in his head that he applies to use it. He'll have an epiphany on how to use it more effectively again and go up a bit in strength and become more tanky.

Considering how powerful All Might is when he's nearly dead, Midoriya going from what he thinks is 5% to even 10% is huge.

Actually, I've always thought that even Deku's "100%" uses of One for All don't seem as powerful as some of what we've seen All Might do. Like, during the term exam All Might punched so hard that it created a shockwave that destroyed like over a block of buildings. I don't think we've seen any of Deku's arm-destroying punches be that strong, except possibly the first one when he destroyed the giant robot.

pnumoman
Sep 26, 2008

I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

gnome7 posted:

Looking at the panel layout around the really weirdly translated bit, I think All For One was congratulating Best Jeanist on using his quirk to prevent all his allies from dying instantly to his attack, and then he took out Best Jeanist so he couldn't do that again. He did not take Jeanist's quirk because it was too complicated to be useful to him - neither Shigaraki nor the Noumus could use a complicated quirk like his with any effectiveness. Jeanist is probably dead but might survive this due to the super medical science this world has - All Might survived with no stomach or lungs, if you'll remember, so getting so brutally destroyed may only be career ending instead of fatal.

Yep. All for One says that even though he intended to utterly destroy everyone in one blast, Best Jeanist used his quirk to move everyone to the edges of the blast to keep them alive. Right after he kills or disables Best Jeanist, he notes that Best Jeanist's power is due to his immense amount of practice and experience with his quirk, so he has no need for it. He also says that it's a quirk unsuited to Tomura.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Ytlaya posted:

Actually, I've always thought that even Deku's "100%" uses of One for All don't seem as powerful as some of what we've seen All Might do. Like, during the term exam All Might punched so hard that it created a shockwave that destroyed like over a block of buildings. I don't think we've seen any of Deku's arm-destroying punches be that strong, except possibly the first one when he destroyed the giant robot.

Deku still doesn't have all of the power of One for All. As All Might has been getting weaker Deku has been getting stronger, which is part of why the fight with the first Nomu took so long. All Might had to use beyond 100% power, though it didn't do nearly as much damage to him as it does Deku.

Even without the ongoing transfer of power, the nature of the One for All quirk means that the 5% Deku uses is always more than the last time he used 5%, even if just a little. Further advances in his power are probably going to mostly be from thinking things out though. Like how talking to Gran Torino got him to constant 5% in just one night. The next step could even be a 24/7 usage of the quirk instead of just activating it when he thinks he needs it.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

pnumoman posted:

Yep. All for One says that even though he intended to utterly destroy everyone in one blast, Best Jeanist used his quirk to move everyone to the edges of the blast to keep them alive. Right after he kills or disables Best Jeanist, he notes that Best Jeanist's power is due to his immense amount of practice and experience with his quirk, so he has no need for it. He also says that it's a quirk unsuited to Tomura.

I guess he's searching for a really good quirk to give to Shiragaki.

Mulderman
Mar 20, 2009

Did someone say axe magnet?
http://readms.com/r/my_hero_academia/089/3388/1


Holy poo poo: the chapter.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Ytlaya posted:

I'm a little surprised that it seems like All for One is capable of going directly against All Might in a physical contest (at least judging from him blocking All Might's attack with his hands). I had assumed his strength was more from having access to a million different quirks, whereas if he has raw physical strength equal to All Might then it seems like he's just much better in every way. Maybe he's able to block him due to having access to the same shock absorption quirk that one Noumu had.
I have a feeling he has some kind of "implacable" quirk, in that he can be unstoppably resilient and relentless on a whim. Only way I could see him standing his ground against berserk All Might

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKLmZNnMT0A

I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono

Rhonne posted:

At some point before he dies or completely runs out of power, I want All Might to team up with Deku for at least one fight. I bet fighting crime with All Might would be the happiest moment in Deku's life.

Yeah, this needs to happen before All-Might is depowered/leaves the picture. It would be really crushing if it directly preceded All-Might's fall.

Law Cheetah
Mar 3, 2012
bakugou's idolization of all might is due to the fact that all might is the strongest, right? all might is great because he never loses. so what happens to bakugou's allegiance when all-might gets fuckin beat to death right in front of him in a straight up fight?

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012





Oh man, I thought this was going to be the next chapter after the imgur-linked translated one. I'm kinda miffed.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Law Cheetah posted:

bakugou's idolization of all might is due to the fact that all might is the strongest, right? all might is great because he never loses. so what happens to bakugou's allegiance when all-might gets fuckin beat to death right in front of him in a straight up fight?

More to the point, what happens if AFO steals his quirk and uses it to kill/cripple All Might?

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

Do you want to know what we do to artists?
I have a feeling that this is going to be the fight where All Might runs out of time in the middle of the battle.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Rhonne posted:

I have a feeling that this is going to be the fight where All Might runs out of time in the middle of the battle.

While it's possible, I think All Might still has at least a couple hours of use for each day, and this battle hasn't gone on for nearly that long. There wouldn't really be any believable explanation for him running out other than him loving up and not starting the operation at 100%. IIRC, when he ran out soon after the fight with Noumu he had needed to rush to that battle after already doing a bunch of hero-ing that day.

Indigo Cephalopods
Oct 26, 2012

Justice Rains From Above
didnt he say in a recent chapter that its now down to less than an hour or am I misremembering?

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Law Cheetah posted:

bakugou's idolization of all might is due to the fact that all might is the strongest, right? all might is great because he never loses. so what happens to bakugou's allegiance when all-might gets fuckin beat to death right in front of him in a straight up fight?

Nothing can shake his allegiance to anger.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
Know what would be worse than AfO stealing Bakugou's quirk? AfO stealing his quirk and then giving it to Shigarakii.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
I wonder if All for One has to touch you in order to steal your quirk. I also wonder if he can do it quicker than Bakugou can explode his drat dirty hands off him.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Darth Walrus posted:

More to the point, what happens if AFO steals his quirk and uses it to kill/cripple All Might?

Ah, is he capable of taking back a quirk he's given out?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
One thing I really find cool/creepy is how... well... nice All for One is being. He's friendly, supportive, and fatherly to his minions, not the typical raging, unstable supervillain rear end in a top hat. He even has a good-humoured, self-deprecating little joke for his archnemesis. Guy really is the messiah of evil.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

Gyges posted:

I wonder if All for One has to touch you in order to steal your quirk. I also wonder if he can do it quicker than Bakugou can explode his drat dirty hands off him.
Considering he completely loving dusted a city block in the time it took everyone to blink, yes.

I'm highly doubting Bakugou loses his quirk however because there's no real means to give it back to him. He had an "origin" chapter and no real time to openly shine in combat outside of off-paneling a bunch of mooks.

It'd be good character development but I dunno what you'd do with him after that if he lost his quirk. Also, no, Hori won't make him become Batman.

Darth Walrus posted:

One thing I really find cool/creepy is how... well... nice All for One is being. He's friendly, supportive, and fatherly to his minions, not the typical raging, unstable supervillain rear end in a top hat. He even has a good-humoured, self-deprecating little joke for his archnemesis. Guy really is the messiah of evil.
Between this and Black Clover it's kinda nice to see shounen big bads who have followers whose reasons for following them aren't some nebulous "this guy will make me powerful/rich/influential and totally not just kill me when he finds me useless" poo poo.

Basically the whole thing of "Why would anyone work for any of Batman's rogues gallery" because the vast majority of them make a game out of killing their own mooks for shits and giggles.

Fabricated fucked around with this message at 01:52 on May 4, 2016

Wolpertinger
Feb 16, 2011
The scary thing about AfO isn't so much what he personally can do, despite how scary that is, but what he can make other people capable of doing - remember, he made All Might, literally the only thing remotely in the same league as him, by combining only 2 quirks. I imagine he sees some sort of potentially unbeatable quirk that he might be able to make by combining the right quirk with Shigarakis, and he is grooming him to be worthy of it.

Aurora
Jan 7, 2008

I'm fairly certain Toshinori's time spent is more like 1 hour straight or something, with some amount of recharge time that isn't 24 hours. It would be tough to be making any sort of appearance at UA with only an hour as All Might a day.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Darth Walrus posted:

One thing I really find cool/creepy is how... well... nice All for One is being. He's friendly, supportive, and fatherly to his minions, not the typical raging, unstable supervillain rear end in a top hat. He even has a good-humoured, self-deprecating little joke for his archnemesis. Guy really is the messiah of evil.

He even did the slow, sarcastic villain clap.

Rodenthar Drothman
May 14, 2013

I think I will continue
watching this twilight world
as long as time flows.

RareAcumen posted:

Oh man, I thought this was going to be the next chapter after the imgur-linked translated one. I'm kinda miffed.

This version is worth a read, even though MS's translation isn't amazing it's better than the imgur one.

Fabricated posted:

It'd be good character development but I dunno what you'd do with him after that if he lost his quirk. Also, no, Hori won't make him become Batman.

Man, can you imagine? The angriest batman.

He'd just throw grenades around.

Pelican Dunderhead
Jun 16, 2010

Ah! Hello Ershin!
Pillbug
hey Horikoshi you hack fraud writer why don't you think up this for a quick and easy resolution to the whole plot:

Have Monoma the copycat copy All for One then steal that poo poo bam get dumped by the wayside Midoriya!

Jintor
May 19, 2014

Pelican Dunderhead posted:

hey Horikoshi you hack fraud writer why don't you think up this for a quick and easy resolution to the whole plot:

Have Monoma the copycat copy All for One then steal that poo poo bam get dumped by the wayside Midoriya!

Magic Quirk Physics will gently caress that up post-haste

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Pelican Dunderhead posted:

hey Horikoshi you hack fraud writer why don't you think up this for a quick and easy resolution to the whole plot:

Have Monoma the copycat copy All for One then steal that poo poo bam get dumped by the wayside Midoriya!

That would involve surviving being in close contact with All for One which Monoma would not be able to do.

Wolpertinger
Feb 16, 2011

Hunt11 posted:

That would involve surviving being in close contact with All for One which Monoma would not be able to do.

It's also likely or possible that copying All For One will merely let you copy the ability to steal powers without the actual powers he's stolen, leaving him with a blank slate and an angry AFO

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Monoma's ability is actually kind of poo poo for one on one fights; at the very best it makes him equal to his opponent, but in reality his opponents would always have more experience using their quirks than him. His ability seems the most useful in large fights where he can switch between the quirks of his allies/enemies as needed.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Wolpertinger posted:

It's also likely or possible that copying All For One will merely let you copy the ability to steal powers without the actual powers he's stolen, leaving him with a blank slate and an angry AFO

Unless you believe in Red Mage's style of planning then none of that matters as the first step, getting close enough to actually touch All for One, is all but impossible.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Wolpertinger posted:

The scary thing about AfO isn't so much what he personally can do, despite how scary that is, but what he can make other people capable of doing - remember, he made All Might, literally the only thing remotely in the same league as him, by combining only 2 quirks. I imagine he sees some sort of potentially unbeatable quirk that he might be able to make by combining the right quirk with Shigarakis, and he is grooming him to be worthy of it.

It's only through accident that those two quirks merged into one. Nobody knew his brother actually had a quirk until afterwards. Considering the damage All Might did to All for One and his advanced age, as well as being unable to find a quirk to steal that would fix him, he's actually probably grooming Shigaraki to take over the position of All for One.

Plus given the Noumu problem, you probably can't really load people up with quirks. Did they say how many quirks someone can have before they turn into a Noumu? All for One of course being an exception since his quirk is the ability to have multiple quirks.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Gyges posted:

It's only through accident that those two quirks merged into one. Nobody knew his brother actually had a quirk until afterwards. Considering the damage All Might did to All for One and his advanced age, as well as being unable to find a quirk to steal that would fix him, he's actually probably grooming Shigaraki to take over the position of All for One.

Plus given the Noumu problem, you probably can't really load people up with quirks. Did they say how many quirks someone can have before they turn into a Noumu? All for One of course being an exception since his quirk is the ability to have multiple quirks.

Maybe that's the function of Shigaraki's... ornaments? One quirk per hand?

HellishWhiskers
Mar 29, 2012

She was an awkward girl

Hunt11 posted:

Unless you believe in Red Mage's style of planning then none of that matters as the first step, getting close enough to actually touch All for One, is all but impossible.

I don't think he needs to touch anybody for his quirk to work? It's not very well explained, though.

But yeah, his quirk seems like it'd be really OP until you think about it. Now, what would happen if you'd throw Eraserhead in the mix is the more interesting question.

Dr Subterfuge
Aug 31, 2005

TIME TO ROC N' ROLL

Fabricated posted:

It'd be good character development but I dunno what you'd do with him after that if he lost his quirk. Also, no, Hori won't make him become Batman.

I'm curious why you're so sure about that.

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Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

HellishWhiskers posted:

But yeah, his quirk seems like it'd be really OP until you think about it. Now, what would happen if you'd throw Eraserhead in the mix is the more interesting question.

Come to think of it, I wonder how effective Eraserhead would be against All for One. I wonder if there's some semi-BS reason why he wouldn't be effective, like his ability only blocking the person's original quirk and not any of the other ones he's picked up (so only blocking his ability to steal quirks). I know his ability doesn't his against people whose quirk is their body type, but that would still vastly limit All for One's capabilities of it managed to block everything else.

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