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Do it ironically posted:yes I'm sure the residents of fort mac will be able to convvince China and the US to significantly cut down their fossil fuel emissions, they've been enlightened Canadians are uniquely bad compared to other western nations in terms of connecting knowledge of climate change's effects to concern over the issue (granted the confidence intervals are large): http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nclimate2997.html It might be exactly your kind of half-assed rationalizations and Canada's relatively small size that let Canadians feel ok about ignoring climate change despite some of the highest per-capita emissions in the world.
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EvilJoven posted:Oh look the perfect time to reveal the Canada Summer Games mascot. Name it McMurray.
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May 4, 2016 20:10
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TheKingofSprings posted:One CI is enough thanks Why would you value the life of a pet over a person? No people died? That's great, some animals died? that's life.
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May 4, 2016 20:13
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Nocturtle posted:Canadians are uniquely bad compared to other western nations in terms of connecting knowledge of climate change's effects to concern over the issue (granted the confidence intervals are large): As we saw in that story upthread some local politicians will openly boast about how climate change will favour Alberta and increase their property values (because it always comes back to home equity).
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May 4, 2016 20:14
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jm20 posted:Why would you value the life of a pet over a person? No people died? That's great, some animals died? that's life. You're not wrong but it's still funny that you're apparently the kind of guy who would go out of your way to say "who cares about animals" when all the person is doing is expressing fairly mild sadness over the internet that a whole lot of cuddly furry critters just got cooked alive.
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May 4, 2016 20:16
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jm20 posted:Who cares about animals Hey, Albertans are people too.
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May 4, 2016 20:21
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This guy is still in custody, right? http://edmontonjournal.com/news/crime/father-of-accused-alberta-arsonist-shocked-at-arrest quote:Mayerthorpe RCMP announced on the weekend they had arrested and charged Lawson Michael Schalm, 19, with 18 counts of arson, including a dramatic fire that destroyed a CN Rail wooden trestle bridge. He’s being held in custody and is scheduled to appear in Stony Plain provincial court Wednesday.
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Helsing posted:You're not wrong but it's still funny that you're apparently the kind of guy who would go out of your way to say "who cares about animals" when all the person is doing is expressing fairly mild sadness over the internet that a whole lot of cuddly furry critters just got cooked alive. Guys an entire town burned to the ground, people are widely displaced and there is limited food/fuel nearby, but think of the cute animals who may have died  Sorry if empathy for a #firstworldproblem of losing a pet doesn't rank very high in comparison to the human calamity underway.
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May 4, 2016 20:25
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No one cares, tough guy
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My heart goes out to all the fluffy pomeranians with prancy legs who go up in a ball of flame because their owners couldn't possibly fit them into their oversize trucks
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May 4, 2016 20:28
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Picnic Princess posted:Name it McMurray.  Brannock posted:My heart goes out to all the fluffy pomeranians with prancy legs who go up in a ball of flame because their owners couldn't possibly fit them into their oversize trucks Yeah, this is the part I don't understand. With the possible exception of, "my house is on fire right now and I have to choose between evacuating my child or my dog," who leaves their pet behind to near certain death in a wildfire? Are we talking about families without personal vehicles that had to leave by bus or some such, because I just can't imagine telling my dog, "Well, it's been fun but I really need that space for my Playstation 4. Bye!" PhilippAchtel fucked around with this message at 20:37 on May 4, 2016 |
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jm20 posted:Why would you value the life of a pet over a person? No people died? That's great, some animals died? that's life. I care more about the pets than the possessions, houses or oil employment of people in Fort Mac 
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Tighclops posted:No one cares, tough guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWc6aF6aMQ8
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PhilippAchtel posted:Yeah, this is the part I don't understand. With the possible exception of, "my house is on fire right now and I have ton choose between evacuating my child or my dog," who leaves their pet behind to near certain death in a wildfire? Are we talking about families without personal vehicles that had to leave by bus or some such, because I just can't imagine telling my dog, "Well, it's been fun but I really need tha t space for my Playstation 4. Bye!" No, but "The civil authority is ordering us to leave right now and we aren't allowed to back home/inside to retrieve anything" sounds like something that could definitely happen.
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Wouldn't they just use the same protocol as if someone had a family member at home?
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jm20 posted:Guys an entire town burned to the ground, people are widely displaced and there is limited food/fuel nearby, but think of the cute animals who may have died Weird. I kill and eat animals recreationally and I still feel bad for ones that got burned alive, seems like a painful way to go.
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PhilippAchtel posted:
"Why hello Mr/Mrs. Fireman/Policeman/Armyman contending with mass panic of tens of thousands of people and trying to save people's lives from a fiery death, you won't mind if I drive toward the fire to go get my cat/dog/gecko/goldfish? It's really important to me, for you see I
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As much as I too am sad for the pets that probably died in the Fort Mac fire the reveal of the perpetually burning cartoon kitty on today of all days is hilariously timed, as was the timing two posts that immediately followed it. TBH for the rest of it if the fire takes the city wholesale in the long run it'll probably be a net benefit to the entire country and possibly even the residents as most house and car insurance covers loss due to wildfire. At least now they aren't stuck with a house in a town with a single supporting industry that's in decline. For those that didn't have insurance, bummer.
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jm20 posted:Why would you value the life of a pet over a person? No people died? That's great, some animals died? that's life. Did you not read the first sentence, where I clearly said that I was glad there were no reports of human casualties, and hoped that it stayed that way?
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May 4, 2016 20:49
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All the dead family pets in FM should serve as a stark reminder to retarded people what happens when they adopt pets. Jesus loving christ stop letting dumb assholes adopt animals
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Ikantski posted:Weird. I kill and eat animals recreationally and I still feel bad for ones that got burned alive, seems like a painful way to go. Actually your nerve endings will burn off quickly so you will feel nothing
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May 4, 2016 20:56
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Fried Watermelon posted:Actually your nerve endings will burn off quickly so you will feel nothing "Burning to death. After all your nerve endings burn off, it's really not that bad."
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May 4, 2016 21:07
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They're saying 1600 homes destroyed in Fort McMurray. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/catastrophic-fort-mcmurray-wildfire-surpasses-10-000-hectares-1.3566310
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May 4, 2016 21:10
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jm20 posted:Guys an entire town burned to the ground, people are widely displaced and there is limited food/fuel nearby, but think of the cute animals who may have died animals burning to death and people losing their homes are both Bad and you're allowed to Feel Bad about both of those things at the same time
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May 4, 2016 21:11
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Always remember that suffering is not a zero sum game. Suffering is infinite 
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Gotta hand it to you, CanPol thread, I cam here after hearing about Fort Mac expecting to see schadenfreude about oil workers but you upped your game with the pet thing.
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May 4, 2016 21:17
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Maybe if they didn't dig up all that tar sands they wouldn't be on fire. makes u think
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jm20 posted:Guys an entire town burned to the ground, people are widely displaced and there is limited food/fuel nearby, but think of the cute animals who may have died Are you a loving computer who can't put do multiple things at once? Must be great to only feel bad about one thing at a time.
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May 4, 2016 21:21
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all these alligator tears for a bunch of nouveau riche tory voting assholes sorry i don't have time
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Stretch Marx posted:Are you a loving computer who can't put do multiple things at once? Must be great to only feel bad about one thing at a time. This, basically. Everything that's happening in Ft. Mac is pretty bad at the moment. Also, I can't decide if your avatar or the kitty-on-fire mascot is more germane to the discussion at hand 
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Once Fort Mac finishes burning to the ground and all the oil companies just shrug and shut down FIRE will literally be all that's left.
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The animal rights activists that care only about pets, but not other animals that die is great. I wonder where bird strikes rank in terms of the care meter for you fair weather activists. Probably nowhere, but what if they were pet Macaws? I bet you guys would be up in arms about the dead pets Stretch Marx posted:Are you a loving computer who can't put do multiple things at once? Must be great to only feel bad about one thing at a time. Multitasking is for suckers, sorry to tell you
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I feel bad for the people losing their homes, but no one has been hurt or killed and it's just "things" being destroyed which can always be rebuilt/have insurance paid out for, so I'm okay feeling a tiny little bit of schadenfreude as this is a town built around the destruction of our environment for quick cash. Sucks about the pets though, contrary to the poster above I'm sure burning to death actually is a pretty lovely way to go 
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Yeah much as I sympathize with my friends out there whose houses have burned down, I'm not sorry the city is gone. The "poors " in Fort mac are still better off than a lot of people elsewhere. Also it is Damm satisfying seeing an oil town go up in smoke.
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What's the likelihood that the Fort McMurray fire was man-made? I'm looking at time-lapses of it, and it seems like it was started unusually close to the town just to start with. Edit: I guess that's kind of why there is such a "disaster" level of hurry to it. If the fire was further out and was slowly working its way towards the town, there would've been enough advance notice to leave ahead of time. By any account I've found, the fire popped up suddenly, already near the city limits, without any forewarning. Morroque fucked around with this message at 21:44 on May 4, 2016 |
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Morroque posted:What's the likelihood that the Fort McMurray fire was man-made? I'm looking at time-lapses of it, and it seems like it was started unusually close to the town just to start with. 100% because climate change is caused by mans.
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A lot of fires end up being man made. Some guy flicks a butt out his window, or a quad sparks it up, or a campfire triggers it, or sparks from a passing trains wheels. Also ya climate change plus fifty years of dealing with forest fires by not letting anything burn ever which has resulted in tons of dead wood on the forest floor means the entire continent is basically more prone to wildfires. Canada has a housing bubble and a forest fire bubble and we aren't going to let either pop. EvilJoven fucked around with this message at 21:49 on May 4, 2016 |
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On the plus side, next year is gonna be great for mushroom gathering
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jm20 posted:Why would you value the life of a pet over a person? No people died? That's great, some animals died? that's life. We could use a few less humans.
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CLAM DOWN posted:contrary to the poster above I'm sure burning to death actually is a pretty lovely way to go He didn't say that. He said that fire burns out the nerve endings. Excelsiortothemax posted:We could use a few less humans. Westerners are already sub-replacement for reproduction. Should turn your Eye of Sauron elsewhere if that's your desired outcome.
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