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Kashuno posted:New dragons don't feel like they changed anything. Triple fire dragon is actually insane. 24% AD/AP, 36% with elder is very noticeable.
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May 5, 2016 13:49
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Taciturn Tactician posted:Triple fire dragon is actually insane. 24% AD/AP, 36% with elder is very noticeable. Don't forget the 180 true damage over three seconds in that situation. Giving up multiple dragons early is going to be a bad idea unless you're getting huge trades for it or are absolutely sure you out scale the other team by a huge margin.
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May 5, 2016 13:56
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Mikujin posted:If you have a jungle item, there's a fraction more (it's insignificant, you still reach level 4 at after a full clear). If you don't have a jungle item, there's noticeably less. If you have two jungle items it's noticeably less
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May 5, 2016 15:18
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played 2 games last night. trip report: zyra is annoying as gently caress. like, there's so much poo poo flying through the air that I can't tell what is simply annoying, bad, good or op but everything seems shook uped enough and kinda ridiculous that I'm ok with it.
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May 5, 2016 16:27
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Bholder posted:In bronze nobody cared about objectives so it obviously won't change much I am having so much fun with Nunu jungle in Bronze. Another fast, uncontested dragon that gives real, permanent buffs? Don't mind if I do.
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May 5, 2016 16:35
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Zmej posted:played 2 games last night. trip report: zyra is annoying as gently caress. I've been playing dark souls but I came back for this patch because it is really really fun, I'm excited because it seems like bruiser ap is finally real. Gonna play so much fiddle tonight
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May 5, 2016 17:09
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Now my team is vindicated when they end the game on a hopeless and poorly thought out dragon contest
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May 5, 2016 18:37
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flyingkiwi posted:If you have two jungle items it's noticeably less A full clear start has you end up with more XP than before (by like 65, so not altogether dramatic) but for some reason - again I assume the adjust catch-up thing - subsequent clears give you less than before, such that getting to 6 now requires an additional camp. It's definitely a lack of fine-tuning on their part.
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May 5, 2016 19:05
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you know, I used to complain about how riot does all this weird balancing, like the jungle XP, just seems super janky and doesn't fix like a bigger issue that's something vague that I can complain about, furiously wave my hands but not anything concrete to point at. then dota started doing it and now I'm ok with it probably because league is so assbackwards in so many ways its come full circle and now makes sense to me. also, what's the consensus on the new hextech mini-dash item? I felt meh about the stats, but that active seems really good. does it go over walls or ledges?
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May 5, 2016 19:17
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It doesn't go over walls or ledges. I have seen no one build it yet.
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May 5, 2016 19:19
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Zyra support is much improved. You're a mobile plant monster. It's great. 
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May 5, 2016 19:31
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May 5, 2016 19:34
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Gibberish posted:imho this kinda sucks dick Oh, the new Avatar is a waterbender. Edit: Unironically looking forward to Wind and Fire skins.
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May 5, 2016 19:36
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Jungle xp changes are a snowball mechanic: they make comebacks harder. You've only ever been able to catch up by farming the jungle by essentially taking one of your camps twice–to get it to respawn and level up–or counterjungling a recently respawned enemy camp. Now camps with fewer creeps are extra worthless at that. Pre-6.9 xp was multiplied by 50%/level behind the camp. Now it's a flat 30/lvl more per creep, + 35 or 20 depending on whether the t2 jungle item is complete for large creeps. That means the only way to efficiently catch up is to take chickens on cooldown. Taking/stealing Gromps or Krugs or especially Buffs is relatively worthless in comparison if you're looking to gain/deny comeback XP. Leaving up one chicken hoses junglers who are behind. Fast farming or control junglers are relatively better than before–they've always been at least even with their camps, and their counterjungling is way stronger. If you're a ganker you need to convert those kills and/or leech/tax more to stay even. AOE mages are now a lot better at hosing either jungler by oneshotting the small chickens. Veigar and Lux come to mind. Also, zoning solo laners without jungle items back such that they need to take camps is even stronger–they get no extra experience for being behind the camps. Buddy jungling probably is toast. Maybe more laners will take smite. I've mentioned this before, but Hunter's Talisman is now the far and away best mana regen item in the game, and in mid it is trivially easy to trigger it: just stand on the ramp. If you can easily shoot chickens to trigger the HoT, all the better.
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May 5, 2016 19:38
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Gibberish posted:imho this kinda sucks dick So I think she is saving the critters from an avalanche but it sorta looks like she is straight up stealing the baby
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May 5, 2016 19:41
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Gibberish posted:imho this kinda sucks dick actually, it's good
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May 5, 2016 19:42
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KicksYouInHalf posted:she is straight up stealing the baby lol, I won't be able to unsee that now.
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May 5, 2016 19:44
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ImpAtom posted:Oh, the new Avatar is a waterbender. I'm glad I'm not the only one who was thinking "isn't it a bit late for riot to be aping Avatar?" with the new champ.
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May 5, 2016 19:53
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KicksYouInHalf posted:So I think she is saving the critters from an avalanche but it sorta looks like she is straight up stealing the baby well the name of the skin is Actually A Bit Of A Dick Taliyah
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May 5, 2016 19:53
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early data has vlad, cassio, and swain in the garbage bin at <40% winrate though i was watching some challenger folks crush top lane with vlad yesterday so he's not necessarily worthless. there could be some confounding here with the short range mages having to play against other mages every game currently. malzahar is the outlier so far on the high end and should probably be banned this patch. brand zyra velkoz all have good winrates so far but they already did before this patch so idk if they're significantly better yet i don't see any other weird things yet. viktor is up a bunch but that just puts him at decent, not strong.
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May 5, 2016 19:57
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http://plays.tv/video/572b9a8e3659a2ce8b/uh-lol?from=user
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May 5, 2016 20:14
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im the janna going "I JUST CAME"
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May 5, 2016 20:17
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hahahahaha that owns
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That's legitimately amazing
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May 5, 2016 20:18
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also i think they may have finally released a balanced jungle item???
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May 5, 2016 20:19
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It freaked me out to press tab and see their jungler sated at nine minutes thouugh
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Fiddles changes are pretty amazing. On paper they dont seem to amount to much, but the movespeed boost helps a lot with harass and keeping up with escaping enemies (and most importantly, unlike other standstill/out of combat effects, you can attack and cast without popping it), the 2 crow bounces add a bunch of already solid early damage, and Dash Hextech (I wish they just called them D.A.S.H and C.H.I.L.L, i'm never going to memorize the numbers) helps with escaping and catching up. I was underwhelmed by the hextechs, but the low cooldowns make them VERY useful; at 40 seconds you can pop out 3 escapes before your witchcap goes off cooldown, and having a short item CD makes you more likely to actually pay attention to item actives (a sin all players comit). Swain is weird in that he's overall been buffed, but making beatrice not an instant laser actually hurts his farming early (since his AA is pretty lame). This is luckily offset both by the area denial helping his harass and L5 Beatrice being able to farm 3 creeps before returning. All in all I'm happy with these changes (except Malzahar and Vlad; Malz is just disgusting, and Vlad doesn't feel as good IMO). Neurolimal fucked around with this message at 20:54 on May 5, 2016 |
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I have yet to even see Malzahar in the wild yet in ranked but there is likely no way in hell he makes it outta the next patch without some form of toning down. So far from ranked it seem Vlad is absolutely terrible--on either side he seems to just die an awful lot to toplaners. Zyra looks like she's on the good side of things--i think her as support making GBS threads out all those seeds gives a lot of potential threat. Brand looks immensely fun, but seems to be banned a lot. Anyone's take on him when they've gotten to play him or is he also nearly always banned? Also, that feel when you play Nami and a Riven thanks you for carrying them
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May 5, 2016 21:11
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Malz has been banned in every game I've seen so far, and will probably stay that way.
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vlad actually having some early damage took me off guard for a moment but then i just started skirting around his tiny range
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May 5, 2016 21:17
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holy poo poo reddit made a good post asking why the gently caress the air dragon is blue and the water one is green and riot really needs to switch them around
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May 5, 2016 21:18
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SHURIMA http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/shurima/intro
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Servaetes posted:holy poo poo reddit made a good post asking why the gently caress the air dragon is blue and the water one is green and riot really needs to switch them around Wasn't it because the icons were harder to read for colorblind people in those colors? I thought they said something about that.
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May 5, 2016 21:36
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this is the good poo poo
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May 5, 2016 22:09
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ImpAtom posted:Wasn't it because the icons were harder to read for colorblind people in those colors? I thought they said something about that. Not really sure, but the icons at the very least should be a bit more obvious as to what they are exactly. I was trying to look up a side by side of each icon on the wall but having some trouble doing so. I just would assume blue = water because that's pretty standard in videogames. Red = Fire, Green = Earth, Blue = Water, Yellow = Wind/Air, that kinda thing.
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May 5, 2016 22:09
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ImpAtom posted:Wasn't it because the icons were harder to read for colorblind people in those colors? I thought they said something about that. Wow. This pc culture has gone too far. That's why I vote for trump.
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May 5, 2016 22:09
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Servaetes posted:a Riven thanks you If you're going to tell lies, at least make them believable. 
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