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happyhippy posted:There is a joke starting to go around that if Trump wins Ethopia and Somalia will start having charity concerts to feed the US. Unfortunately, the food shipments will be banned from entering the US until we can figure out what's going on.
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rkajdi posted:The people shouldn't die, but if they're unwilling to accept new decent people into the community, the community has to die. And if taking kids away from parents because Wrong Think speeds that up you're on board right?
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GalacticAcid posted:The Guardian has a big, sad article on America's Trailer Parks and the moneypeople who profit handsomely from them. This article is from a year ago but it's still a pretty good read.
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May 5, 2016 15:47
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Sir Tonk posted:I was like, this has to be HA Goodman and yep it was HA Goodman. I'm really eager to see HA Goodman's November article: "Why Bernie Sanders Is Actually President, Despite What The Establishment Is Telling You"
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Shifty Pony posted:In good news the CFPB is going to ban mandatory arbitration clauses that prohibit class action lawsuits for a variety of financial services : Good god I hope this catches on and spreads to everything, everywhere. Binding arbitration clauses are such unbelievably transparent horse poo poo designed for absolutely no reason other than loving people over and circumventing the entire justice system. It's also some of the most frustratingly disingenuous poo poo for a lawyer to be saying keeping people out of courts and letting paid off third parties decide legal matters is "a benefit" that consumers will be losing.
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I was considering yesterday that this might be the first time in modern history that an outgoing President will be actively campaigning for their successor. Bush 43 knew to stay the hell away and McCain hated him anyway; Gore wanted Clinton to stay away; Reagan was pretty much gone at that point; LBJ was toxic and Eisenhower didn't really campaign for Nixon, Truman might be the last time that really happened, but even then he didn't campaign aggressively for Stevenson.
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May 5, 2016 15:54
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:And if taking kids away from parents because Wrong Think speeds that up you're on board right? please don't activate the shitposting cell again
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May 5, 2016 15:59
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I'm really eager to see HA Goodman's November article: "Why Bernie Sanders Is Actually President, Despite What The Establishment Is Telling You" He can still win! She's going to be arrested any day now!
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May 5, 2016 16:00
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:And if taking kids away from parents because Wrong Think speeds that up you're on board right? Not unless they're at the unsuitable/abusive family situation. But if we're talking about some idiot thinking spare the rod, spoil the child or pray the gay away, yeah they shouldn't get the ability to ruin their kids. And I want a decent compulsory education system to make sure that their parent's pre-modern thinking isn't continued into the next generation. The backwoods rebel culture needs to go away, and the state needs to use its power to make sure it does.
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Hey, someone at VOX wrote an article that I think makes sense and I agree with some of the statements made.quote:The media cannot countenance a lopsided race
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May 5, 2016 16:06
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rkajdi posted:Not unless they're at the unsuitable/abusive family situation. But if we're talking about some idiot thinking spare the rod, spoil the child or pray the gay away, yeah they shouldn't get the ability to ruin their kids. And I want a decent compulsory education system to make sure that their parent's pre-modern thinking isn't continued into the next generation. The backwoods rebel culture needs to go away, and the state needs to use its power to make sure it does. And how do you propose the state do that.
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Shifty Pony posted:In good news the CFPB is going to ban mandatory arbitration clauses that prohibit class action lawsuits for a variety of financial services : So another group is going to file an amicus brief with SCOTUS declaring the CFPB unconstitutional, then. Good to know. Doctor Butts posted:Hey, someone at VOX wrote an article that I think makes sense and I agree with some of the statements made. This is the main reason Trump has a reasonably good chance (at least 25%) of becoming president. Manufactured consent is a hell of a thing. "Yeah, Trump might have literally called for the deportation of all non-white Americans, but him being a xenophobe? Well that's just Hillary's opinion! Here's a list of 25 reasons Trump isn't actually a xenophobe!" ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 16:14 on May 5, 2016 |
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:And how do you propose the state do that. fascism but it's okay because he enjoys the flavor
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sean10mm posted:Trump basically showed that the GOP establishment's interests are completely disconnected from what the rank-and-file actually wants. They might actually be kinda hosed. I mean they'll own gerrymandered Southern states forever, but still. I think this is a good analysis. The anti-immigration, anti-outsourcing, protectionism stance actually all fits real well. Although the anti immigrant stance could be attributed to straight racism im thinking it is more based in a large swath of the population getting the sense that imported labor is crushing their wages.
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Torpor posted:I think this is a good analysis. The anti-immigration, anti-outsourcing, protectionism stance actually all fits real well. Although the anti immigrant stance could be attributed to straight racism im thinking it is more based in a large swath of the population getting the sense that imported labor is crushing their wages. Those aren't disconnected. The fear that immigrants are taking your job is inherently racist.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Pat Buchanan was just on NPR talking about how America was better in 1960 and diversity is destroying the country so he wants to deport all immigrants who don't assimilate because they're destroying I tuned into that while they were talking so I didn't know it was Pat at first. It was so incredibly racist at parts it was amazing. Hearing at the end it was Pat was almost depressingly unsurprising.
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CommieGIR posted:I fully expect
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So whatever happened to Fried Chicken? Seriously, did Mike Pence actually have him murdered?
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The next time someone starts talking to you about how the "Mexicans" are going to take all our jobs or something, ask them who they think are largest group of undocumented immigrants. Spoiler: it's college students who overstay their visas. Boon posted:So whatever happened to Fried Chicken? 
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http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/trump-loving-tow-truck-driver-says-god-told-him-to-leave-bernie-sanders-supporter-stranded/quote:A South Carolina tow truck driver said God told him to leave a disabled Bernie Sanders supporter stranded along the interstate. Sorry bernie fans, you're not getting help from real Americans cause God says so.
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Doctor Butts posted:Hey, someone at VOX wrote an article that I think makes sense and I agree with some of the statements made. I think the next six months of media are going to depend a lot on the GOP's ability to keep Donald Trump from constantly sticking his foot in his mouth in the worst possible ways. I can't picture journalists constantly bringing up what a horrible person Donald Trump is unprompted, but media outlets will be more than happy to run an endless parade of "look at stupid thing Trump just did," especially after eating so much flak over their role in propping up his primary campaign. The idea that the media will try to bring Clinton down to appear balanced is just silly alarmism, though.
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^^^^ There was that CBS exec that openly stated that covering Trump was great for business. He's going to ride this primary coverage all the way to November. Doctor Butts posted:Hey, someone at VOX wrote an article that I think makes sense and I agree with some of the statements made. I agree, and that it is a sad state of affairs. It's also not any different than it's ever been with print media in place of cable news media and I'm not sure that anything can change that because economics, nature, whatever. Just gotta keep interacting with people on a personal level 
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Sir Tonk posted:http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/trump-loving-tow-truck-driver-says-god-told-him-to-leave-bernie-sanders-supporter-stranded/ Jesus weeps
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Shifty Pony posted:In good news the CFPB is going to ban mandatory arbitration clauses that prohibit class action lawsuits for a variety of financial services : This is fantastic.
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Boon posted:^^^^ Yeah it was none other than Les Moonves.
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Boon posted:^^^^ The point is that exposure for Trump isn't really a good thing.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:The point is that exposure for Trump isn't really a good thing. It's free advertising, and it helped him win the primary. You're nuts if you don't think that the media's attempts to spin it as a horse race won't make the election closer than it by all rights should be.
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Shifty Pony posted:In good news the CFPB is going to ban mandatory arbitration clauses that prohibit class action lawsuits for a variety of financial services : I honestly can't tell if we're on the verge of a popular backlash against corporate power or in the last throes of the consumer insurgency.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:It's free advertising, and it helped him win the primary. You're nuts if you don't think that the media's attempts to spin it as a horse race won't make the election closer than it by all rights should be. I have said this like a billion times, but the things that made him successful in the Republican Primary do not translate to the General Election. Like the more Trump is on TV saying dumb poo poo, the more often voters are reminded of why he cannot be the President. Trump is going to get absolutely destroyed.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I have said this like a billion times, but the things that made him successful in the Republican Primary do not translate to the General Election. It's this, winning your primary is not winning the election, and the desires of the republican party are different than the desires of many major aspects of America
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Sir Tonk posted:Yeah it was none other than Les Moonves. Do you mean Les Moonvest? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPP8DJPbBkw
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Epic High Five posted:You're right, but the twist is that the next Trump will be worse I've said it before and I'll say it again: the next Trump figure will be Literally Hitler cloned from traces of Hitler's DNA acquired from the old Soviet archives and resurrected through cutting-edge cloning technology. Imagine Bionic Commando but with Republicans filling the role of the villains.
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SumYungGui posted:Good god I hope this catches on and spreads to everything, everywhere. Binding arbitration clauses are such unbelievably transparent horse poo poo designed for absolutely no reason other than loving people over and circumventing the entire justice system. Unfortunately it will probably take legislation to do that and even with a Democratic majority in both houses there are enough "business friendly" democrats and republicans that a full prohibition on form contracts with binding arbitration would be difficult to get through. A ban on prohibitions on class action waivers might stand a better chance. Stare decisis means that even with Scalia gone a Supreme Court fix is unlikely as it would require overturning a whole bunch of past (5-4) rulings. The last arbitration case at the Supreme Court shows this in action as it was 6-3 with Breyer and Kagan joining the conservatives in the majority and Breyer saying that the previous decisions made the case pretty open and shut.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:The point is that exposure for Trump isn't really a good thing. Wait, no you're right I misinterpreted the original article - ignore this. Boon fucked around with this message at 16:39 on May 5, 2016 |
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Boon posted:Well yeah I get that. Well yes, that I agree with.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I have said this like a billion times, but the things that made him successful in the Republican Primary do not translate to the General Election. Of course not. I didn't mean to imply that the strategy will win the election for him, only that Trump would likely be 2-3 points further down if the media wasn't going to make it look like Trump was an equally acceptable choice in a horse race.
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rkajdi posted:The people shouldn't die, but if they're unwilling to accept new decent people into the community, the community has to die. Absolutely. America isn't a homogenus culture, no matter how much Republicans want it to be. Europe was never branded as a melting pot though. And it isn't the same issue as here with the racism either. You'll get Germans (just as an example, most of Europe is this way) pissed off that "Greeks are moving in and Taking all ze jobs!", almost as quickly as they get mad about Turks (who aren't exactly Brown by paper bag standards either). Outsiders are outsiders. Bringing in new religions, customs and such, while rejecting the host nation's culture, makes them seem (to locals) like imperialists and invaders. A lot of folks hated the idea of the E.U. for this very reason. This isn't a European phenomenon. Asia, Africa and even South America (at least the places with working governments) are just as bad, if not worse.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Of course not. I didn't mean to imply that the strategy will win the election for him, only that Trump would likely be 2-3 points further down if the media wasn't going to make it look like Trump was an equally acceptable choice in a horse race. I don't think there's any way to at all quantify that.
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I want Trump to win, just to see Putin openly urinate on him at their first meeting.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:And how do you propose the state do that. I'd say a universal standard for education (As in, here's a curriculum you must teach to period. If you want to private school a kid, they still get a uniform education. No homeschooling obviously since we aren't a third-world hovel) that does a lot to force modernity onto kids would be a good place to start. Forced busing desegregation would be another one. Basically force race and class mixing to the maximum extent possible to destroy the idea that people are inherently different, all the while pushing an education showing how pre-modernity was a trash time to be stuck in. If people step out of line and start trying to block integration again, use the national guard just like was done during the first segregation push. You will have pre-modernity educated out of people within a generation. It'll probably kill most rural communities, since once the romantic mythology is gone all you're left with is a whole lot of nothing and limited work opportunities. But that was already happening on smaller and slower scale.
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