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Munkeymon posted:Noting racism in other people makes me the true racist? Welp, that's an unassailable argument. I concede. just assuming off the cuff that small town people are 100% racist is pretty bigoted, yes. bigots often have a hard time recognizing this behavior in themselves, especially when they start making blanket declarations against "those people"
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May 5, 2016 17:25
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zoux posted:Stop trying to paint him as a ridiculous extremist. He just wants to sterilize them and take their existing children and put them in reeducation facilities. Well at least they'll get exposure to gay people there since gay man can't be trusted to remain ideologically pure now that we have marriage.
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May 5, 2016 17:25
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rkajdi posted:Because being rural is a protected class like being a native American. Oh wait... It physically hurts me to respond to such stupidity but still... You do realize that the goal of educating bigotry out of folks A.) won't work since kids typically attain their cultural moors from their parents, the media, and other kids and B.) such a practice could easily be turned around on you depending on who is in power - see: Texas control over various curricula and the teaching of various forms of historically-inaccurate-think.
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May 5, 2016 17:26
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Paradoxish posted:This thread is honestly really uncomfortable to read anytime the topic veers into rural white issues. Yeah it really is a rather disturbing the amount of punching down going on here. Rural poverty is the highest in the nation yet this thread at every opportunity enjoys punching down on those poor people.
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May 5, 2016 17:26
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Meanwhile, the FDA is going to kill e-cigs: http://www.vox.com/2016/5/5/11595784/fda-rule-e-cigarettes-tobacco if it's a legitimate vape the body has a way of shutting it down
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May 5, 2016 17:27
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Crowsbeak posted:Yeah it really is a rather disturbing the amount of punching down going on here. Rural poverty is the highest in the nation yet this thread at every opportunity enjoys punching down on those poor people. Well they probably all hate gays and minorities so that's okay.* Now let me tell you about how horrible it is that conservatives paint Muslims with the same brush. *citation needed
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Crowsbeak posted:Yeah it really is a rather disturbing the amount of punching down going on here. Rural poverty is the highest in the nation yet this thread at every opportunity enjoys punching down on those poor people. in the case of the nebraskan chicken plant, poverty and unemployment aren't that bad in the local area. really it's about a small town rejecting a mammoth industrial expansion in their village, permanently altering the town's status quo, which normally people would applaud a democratic rejection of corporate excess except in this case we're pretending all the rural people are racist as hell so that we can collectively feel superior to strawman hicks
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May 5, 2016 17:28
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Popular Thug Drink posted:"ugh, those filthy rural whites need to stop being so xenophobic and bigoted all of the time, and the only way to do this is by eradicating their degenerate culture" -unironically stated itt My native, rural culture is degenerate. Confederacy worship, white supremacy, taking pride in homophobia and misogyny, and an almost masterbatory level of anti-intellectualism make it toxic to everyone involved. Erasing these aspects of it, while keeping those few that don't involve the above, would be a net good for the world.
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May 5, 2016 17:29
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Is wrongthink child abuse? Depends on the wrongthink. "I get to abuse the gay out of my kid", "I want to homeschool them into permanent underclassdom", and "My useless religion wants to deny them medical care" are all abuse. Sorry, your kid is a future member of society, not some extension of the parents. I want kids who are more competent and educated than my generation was.
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May 5, 2016 17:30
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Talmonis posted:My native, rural culture is degenerate. Confederacy worship, white supremacy, taking pride in homophobia and misogyny, and an almost masterbatory level of anti-intellectualism make it toxic to everyone involved. Erasing these aspects of it, while keeping those few that don't involve the above, would be a net good for the world. im sorry you hate your childhood but you dont need to make it everyone else's problem thanks i grew up in the rural south also and i can confidently say that less than 100% of the people were racist. shocking, i know
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Edit- IMO Thug Drink is right on this one. There was like two really racist assholes who were sensationalized in early articles about this particular town and people have been slow to catch on that they were clickbaited.Crowsbeak posted:Yeah it really is a rather disturbing the amount of punching down going on here. Rural poverty is the highest in the nation yet this thread at every opportunity enjoys punching down on those poor people. I spent more of my twenties than I want to think about arguing with farmers about politics. TheDeadlyShoe fucked around with this message at 17:34 on May 5, 2016 |
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Cugel the Clever posted:Mega-City One is a model to which we must aspire. That is where we are going, like it or not.
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May 5, 2016 17:32
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FAUXTON posted:You don't see anyone worshipping Pilate anywhere, do you As long as he's team R, they'll move the goal posts to justify it. Also timeline of GOP's descent into madness. 2009: Obama's bad because he's 2012: A governor with experience and a businessman.(Also black token #2 was a (pizza) businessman)
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Popular Thug Drink posted:in the case of the nebraskan chicken plant, poverty and unemployment aren't that bad in the local area. really it's about a small town rejecting a mammoth industrial expansion in their village, permanently altering the town's status quo, which normally people would applaud a democratic rejection of corporate excess except in this case we're pretending all the rural people are racist as hell so that we can collectively feel superior to strawman hicks Yep, just what I'm talking about. Also considering that plant was expecting to be given welfare while paying no property taxes I would say the locals had every reason to be skeptical. Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Well they probably all hate gays and minorities so that's okay.* Now let me tell you about how horrible it is that conservatives paint Muslims with the same brush. Hey I have relatives in rural Michigan, the worse I can say is the older ones are a bit paranoid about muslims. But overall they are great, also their great to my sisters Phillipino fiancee and his family. I can't live in small towns but thats because I need my museums and theater.
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rkajdi posted:Depends on the wrongthink. "I get to abuse the gay out of my kid", "I want to homeschool them into permanent underclassdom", and "My useless religion wants to deny them medical care" are all abuse. Sorry, your kid is a future member of society, not some extension of the parents. I want kids who are more competent and educated than my generation was. Well that first and last one is abusive by actual abusive standards. That second one is a harder sell because, ya know, that's not actually true. Also no, my dude, kids don't belong to the state or whatever. Like, you're acting like how internet libertarians think progressives are or whatever, you don't get to make a child government goods because of ~the greater good of society~ (as defined by the current administration god help you if anyone regressive ever wins but that won't happen because we live in a just and good world right?)
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Popular Thug Drink posted:in the case of the nebraskan chicken plant, poverty and unemployment aren't that bad in the local area. really it's about a small town rejecting a mammoth industrial expansion in their village, permanently altering the town's status quo, which normally people would applaud a democratic rejection of corporate excess except in this case we're pretending all the rural people are racist as hell so that we can collectively feel superior to strawman hicks But a lot of them are white so RACIST FUCKS THAT DESERVE DEATH I mean, Talmonis wants to burn it all down, why do you have to rain on his parade?
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May 5, 2016 17:34
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On the other hand, where I live rural implies a 'live and let live, you mind your business and I'll mind mine' mentality, which is actually quite pleasant. The trouble is that a lot of these places have no real need to exist in the modern era so there's a slow overall degradation (accelerated by the financial crisis, which really sucked.) Also rising opiate abuse. But I think there is a real value to preserving the space for a rural lifestyle if it's something that can be supported well by other local places (I'm happy to pay extra for a product or service that supports these people.) At the same time, Obama was right with his clinging to guns and religion quip, but you're not going to change those attitudes by spitting on them. Mozi fucked around with this message at 17:38 on May 5, 2016 |
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May 5, 2016 17:34
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Crowsbeak posted:Yeah it really is a rather disturbing the amount of punching down going on here. Rural poverty is the highest in the nation yet this thread at every opportunity enjoys punching down on those poor people. It's those drat religious rural poors ruining this country, and certainly not ultra rich people who just don't want to pay taxes!
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Popular Thug Drink posted:just assuming off the cuff that small town people are 100% racist is pretty bigoted, yes. I was only assuming a majority of adults. Now who's the bigot  quote:bigots often have a hard time recognizing this behavior in themselves, especially when they start making blanket declarations against "those people" Wait, so it's OK as long as they don't know they're racists? poo poo, too bad I already conceded to being The Real Racist Here!
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May 5, 2016 17:34
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rkajdi posted:Depends on the wrongthink. "I get to abuse the gay out of my kid", "I want to homeschool them into permanent underclassdom", and "My useless religion wants to deny them medical care" are all abuse. Sorry, your kid is a future member of society, not some extension of the parents. I want kids who are more competent and educated than my generation was. So should we beat the poors to make them rightthink or do we steal their children? I'm so glad the left is all in favor of physically enforced mind control! I too love Warhammer 40k
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Well at least they'll get exposure to gay people there since gay man can't be trusted to remain ideologically pure now that we have marriage. That may actually be true though...
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May 5, 2016 17:35
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god you gusy are gay and stupid. what happened to the election forum
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May 5, 2016 17:35
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Popular Thug Drink posted:im sorry you hate your childhood but you dont need to make it everyone else's problem thanks No man when I graduated high school in the south I was given klan robes and the mind implant that makes me want to beat up gay people. It's real awkward at times when I start kicking my own rear end but hey that's the price of living in Bad America that a bunch of totally progressive people wish would just blow up and take all those stupid dirty poors with it
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May 5, 2016 17:36
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Munkeymon posted:Wait, so it's OK as long as they don't know they're racists? poo poo, too bad I already conceded to being The Real Racist Here! yes i'm sure that an anonymous person yelling at them on the internet that they're racist will really open their eyes and isn't just an impotent attempt at catharsis on your part
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Let me present you with the greatest newspaper cover image ever: he's getting hosed in the rear end
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May 5, 2016 17:36
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Those aren't disconnected. The fear that immigrants are taking your job is inherently racist. No, no it isn't. It can be but it certainly isn't inherent. Immigration policies have been a labor issue for a long, long time with employees wanting to open the floodgates to break unions and decrease labor costs and the employees getting upset.
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May 5, 2016 17:37
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Noam Chomsky posted:You do realize that the goal of educating bigotry out of folks A.) won't work since kids typically attain their cultural moors from their parents, the media, and other kids and B.) such a practice could easily be turned around on you depending on who is in power - see: Texas control over various curricula and the teaching of various forms of historically-inaccurate-think. So we should just continue to let kids who are stuck in the backwoods get awful educations, and then get turned into the kinds of garbage that's been voting in the GOP primaries? I'm not saying steal people's kids. I'm say actually educate them, up to and including telling them their parents are loving up their lives with the garbage they are putting into their brains. You get them for five days a week, the parents get them maybe for two. I can't see how you don't win this one. I get that this could be used in the opposite way if idiots gain control of the system, but that was the case no matter what was done. Hell, that sounds more like some sort of libertarian small government idiocy than anything. Or are we now back to the point where forcing schools to teach evolution instead of whatever creationism stand-in is en vogue this week is cultural genocide?
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Popular Thug Drink posted:im sorry you hate your childhood but you dont need to make it everyone else's problem thanks The Republican party is everyone's problem, and as Trump shows us, it's powered solely by white rage. And yet, you are an outlier at best. A pariah in the community if you're vocal about your humanism or secularity.
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quote:House Speaker Tim Moore said Thursday that legislators won’t meet the U.S. Department of Justice’s Monday deadline to repeal or stop enforcing House Bill 2. http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article75797342.html https://twitter.com/newsobserver/status/728255043745501184
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Torpor posted:No, no it isn't. It can be but it certainly isn't inherent. Immigration policies have been a labor issue for a long, long time with employees wanting to open the floodgates to break unions and decrease labor costs and the employees getting upset. It is inherently based on racism. Get this, Big Labor was hella racist.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Those aren't disconnected. The fear that immigrants are taking your job is
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donald trump sis going to be president
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Talmonis posted:And yet, you are an outlier at best. A pariah in the community if you're vocal about your humanism or secularity. i like to think of it as learning how to assert myself without being a contentious rear end in a top hat v  v
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rkajdi posted:So we should just continue to let kids who are stuck in the backwoods get awful educations, and then get turned into the kinds of garbage that's been voting in the GOP primaries? Yes, dude, we continue to 'let' people have opinions, even bad ones. You loving fascist. Like for example, as someone who's had family who got hosed up by the whole 'you have chosen Wrong Opinions you must be punished by the state' thing back in eastern europe, I find your views despicable and I think they indicate a genuine major moral failing within your heart of hearts. That said, you are allowed to have them, you're allowed to make your stupid future kids as fascist and backwards as you are too if you want, and my solution to that would be, say, educating them on stuff like, I dunno, Communist Romania and poo poo, so they can see 'oh, maybe dad's a wrong rear end in a top hat' for themselves rather than just banging my dick on the desk shouting "YOU ARE BIGOTS AND YOUR FATHER IS A FUCKFACE COME TO MY SIDE OF CORRECT THOUGHT OR FACE PUNISHMENT" Because, ya know, that doesn't work.
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Torpor posted:No, no it isn't. It can be but it certainly isn't inherent. Immigration policies have been a labor issue for a long, long time with employees wanting to open the floodgates to break unions and decrease labor costs and the employees getting upset. the more productive liberal angle to take is "large factories often outsource industrial pollution to rural communities and communities of color which have less resources to fight in court"
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Popular Thug Drink posted:yes i'm sure that an anonymous person yelling at them on the internet that they're racist will really open their eyes and isn't just an impotent attempt at catharsis on your part Agreed! Good thing all I did is point out that someone on the internet was willfully ignoring blatant racism.
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rkajdi posted:So we should just continue to let kids who are stuck in the backwoods get awful educations, and then get turned into the kinds of garbage that's been voting in the GOP primaries? Yes. Yes we do because that's what living in a democratic society means you loving fascist.
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rkajdi posted:So we should just continue to let kids who are stuck in the backwoods get awful educations, and then get turned into the kinds of garbage that's been voting in the GOP primaries? It's dat Horseshoe Theory.
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Like, I really can't express clear enough how unironic and real my disgust is for someone saying 'so what, we just LET this keep happening, people having VIEWS I DISLIKE?!' as if that's supposed to make the reader clutch their pearls and wonder what is to be done with these monsters that we allow to exist for some reason. It's maybe one of the worst things I've read in these forums that were presented as genuine views that someone is shocked no one else agrees on.
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