Cabbit posted:Cartoon Ororo had a bit of a god complex. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_rj1B3l9gE
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I still call bullshit on weather control being a 'mutation', that's magic, not DNA-fuckery 
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May 5, 2016 21:41
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Malachite_Dragon posted:I still call bullshit on weather control being a 'mutation', that's magic, not DNA-fuckery Unlike the highly scientific eye lasers, sulfuric teleportation and telekinesis powers.
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May 5, 2016 21:56
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Her mutation allows her to control the magic that controls the weather. There.
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May 5, 2016 22:00
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Malachite_Dragon posted:I still call bullshit on weather control being a 'mutation', that's magic, not DNA-fuckery They eventually moved in the direction that Ororo's specifically a very high-end aerokinetic, so she can mentally manipulate the atmosphere at long range. Hence, weather.
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May 5, 2016 22:24
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Wanderer posted:They eventually moved in the direction that Ororo's specifically a very high-end aerokinetic, so she can mentally manipulate the atmosphere at long range. Hence, weather. That's a lot of fancy words for weather witch. Scarlet Witch got chaos magicks, so Storm can have her magicks too!
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May 5, 2016 22:26
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No no, X-men have to be boring and obey physics. That's how you write a good comic.
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May 5, 2016 22:27
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Lurdiak posted:No no, X-men have to be boring and obey physics. That's how you write a good comic. But that ... that's not ... huh ... wha? 
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May 5, 2016 22:30
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I have that image saved as "Take A Science Class Len Wein"
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May 5, 2016 22:31
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:That's a lot of fancy words for weather witch. I think Claremont was going to do something with it at one point, actually. When he was back on the X-books for about ten minutes before House of M, he had Storm doing things like generating a Jovian pressure field. (I think I only remember that because it gave Paul O'Brien a conniption.) Wanderer fucked around with this message at 22:40 on May 5, 2016 |
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May 5, 2016 22:33
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Lurdiak posted:I have that image saved as "Take A Science Class Len Wein" The funny part is that if he had just reversed that, it might have made even a little bit of sense.
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May 5, 2016 22:36
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I like to think that Dracula knows perfectly well that Storm (probably) can't control the sun (though she did control the solar wind once...) but thinks if she's going to show that much courage, he'll applaud it. A Good Dracula.
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May 5, 2016 22:53
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Did it not occur to any of you guys that she might've meant she was going to put him in an air vortex that'd orbit the earth and always face the sun?
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May 5, 2016 23:11
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Lurdiak posted:Unlike the highly scientific eye lasers, sulfuric teleportation and telekinesis powers. There's a difference between 'My eyes bounce light too well'/'bullshit 100% of brain usage' and "Piss me off and I will destroy everything you love with supertornadoes"  Nightcrawler teleporting is also DNA-bullshit, but I like Nightcrawler more than Storm so I let it slide. (Also I was joking, y'all, relax)
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May 5, 2016 23:15
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Lurdiak posted:Did it not occur to any of you guys that she might've meant she was going to put him in an air vortex that'd orbit the earth and always face the sun? Yeah she said she was gonna take the place off its foundations so I assumed she was gonna move it around.
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May 5, 2016 23:33
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Kramjacks posted:Yeah she said she was gonna take the place off its foundations so I assumed she was gonna move it around. I really thought she was just wildly overstating Drac's sun exposure. It would have been more accurate for her to point out that his castle would never again cast protective shade for him, but that doesn't sound as badass.
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May 5, 2016 23:41
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Lurdiak posted:Did it not occur to any of you guys that she might've meant she was going to put him in an air vortex that'd orbit the earth and always face the sun? Ah, the Doreen-Kraven maneuver. 
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May 6, 2016 00:13
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What.
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May 6, 2016 00:17
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Andarel posted:What. Okay, fine, I'll give you context. Kraven attacked Squirrel Girl.   Unbeatable Squirrel Girl #1. The one from 2015. The first one from 2015!
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May 6, 2016 00:22
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ManiacClown posted:Her mutation allows her to control the magic that controls the weather. There. A Storm did become a sorceress in the Magik miniseries, so there is precedent for Witch Storm.
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May 6, 2016 00:56
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Adnor posted:A Storm did become a sorceress in the Magik miniseries, so there is precedent for Witch Storm. She was also the bride of Dracula back in the early 80's, so there's a precedent for that too (I think it turned out to be a dream, but that's almost as good)
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May 7, 2016 02:36
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CzarChasm posted:She was also the bride of Dracula back in the early 80's, so there's a precedent for that too Nah she straight got Dracula'd. It came out like a year after the Doom/Arcade story so it wasn't even a precedent setting evil ruler falling for Storm moment.
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May 7, 2016 02:46
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Dracula plans his daily schedule around the weather, plans an outing while it's projected to be overcast only to find it's clear out. Curse you, Ororo!
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May 7, 2016 02:58
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Lurdiak posted:Unlike the highly scientific eye lasers, sulfuric teleportation and telekinesis powers. I think it's pretty evident that there are no such things as "mutants as evolved humans", what they call "mutants" are really unaware dimensional orphans. The entire Marvel U exists in a very weak spot surrounded by countless dimensions, what they call "mutants" are humans from other dimensions accidentally brought to the main Marvel U. This explains why every single mutant is completely unique, why death and time are so nebulous ("heaven and hell" are just different dimensions so death is just like going to another country to rest), and why "mutations" only appear around puberty: like Superman being exposed to the yellow sun something on earth causes these travelers to change. Or somewhere there is an entire planet of people with eye punch powers except one guy just trying to live. No prize.
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May 9, 2016 15:15
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I always liked the Earth X explanation that everyone is a mutant/inhuman/whatever, just some get their powers activated in different ways, whether by secret formula, freak trauma, Terragin Mists, or yes, your parents combined genes. In the book, something has happened to activate the entire world's powers (except Tony Stark, because in this universe, he's a weirdo Howard Hughes shut-in) and a big part of the plot is people trying to find out what caused it exactly.
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May 9, 2016 15:32
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I hated that because I hate "EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED" explanations for things.
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May 9, 2016 16:00
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Choco1980 posted:I always liked the Earth X explanation that everyone is a mutant/inhuman/whatever, just some get their powers activated in different ways, whether by secret formula, freak trauma, Terragin Mists, or yes, your parents combined genes. In the book, something has happened to activate the entire world's powers (except Tony Stark, because in this universe, he's a weirdo Howard Hughes shut-in) and a big part of the plot is people trying to find out what caused it exactly. This was a thing for DC comics, too. Back in the 80s, some aliens who wanted to invade the Earth figured out there was a genetic basis for all human superpowers and made a bomb to emit radiation that crippled that gene, loving up the superpowers of almost everyone on the planet. Ironically, this stress was enough to trigger superpowers in several previously unpowered people (like Maxwell Lord). This plot was later reused in the Young Justice cartoon.
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May 9, 2016 21:21
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The Godwave, right? It created the New Gods and then reverberated through the universe, hit the edge (???), bounced back, and created Wonder Woman's Greek gods and then seeded mortals with potential superpowers. Which means there should have been a lot more superheros in history and not just all of them showing up to fight Hitler.
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May 9, 2016 22:01
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Travis343 posted:The Godwave, right? It created the New Gods and then reverberated through the universe, hit the edge (???), bounced back, and created Wonder Woman's Greek gods and then seeded mortals with potential superpowers. Which means there should have been a lot more superheros in history and not just all of them showing up to fight Hitler. He means Invasion!. (with the exclamation point!)
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May 9, 2016 22:04
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Travis343 posted:Which means there should have been a lot more superheros in history and not just all of them showing up to fight Hitler. Some versions of the wizard Shazam's origin have him as a shepherd boy living in Canaan circa 5000 BC who was bestowed with superhuman powers by a fictional pantheon of gods, which made him the world's first superhero.
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May 10, 2016 10:58
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Travis343 posted:Which means there should have been a lot more superheros in history and not just all of them showing up to fight Hitler. "Holy poo poo, guy flies!" Can get more coverage when you have a global media system. Plus, they have access to better costume materials.
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May 10, 2016 15:42
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"Dude with super strength" is less impressive if dude in question dies of typhus when he's 8.
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May 10, 2016 15:45
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FilthyImp posted:There were. We just turned them into myths and urban legends and folklore figures. There were heroes like Max Mercury.
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May 10, 2016 15:56
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redbackground posted:He means Invasion!. Notable for being the swiftly ignored origin for the Hitman comic, I think.
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May 10, 2016 19:04
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Nope, that was Bloodlines. Invasion gave us Max Lord and messed with Fire's powers, and paved the way for Morrison's Doom Patrol.
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May 10, 2016 19:10
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The Invasion! issue of Animal Man was really good. It also sets up the end of the Psycho Pirate story in the book. "Just turn it off."
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May 10, 2016 19:23
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Cabbit posted:Notable for being the swiftly ignored origin for the Hitman comic, I think. Nope, that was Bloodlines, specifically The Demon Annual #2 component. Invasion! was a pretty much wholly self-contained 3-issue thingy (with tie-ins, of course, but you really didn't need them at all), and it's actually pretty good, unlike ole Bloodlines. redbackground fucked around with this message at 19:41 on May 10, 2016 |
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May 10, 2016 19:38
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Die Laughing posted:The Invasion! issue of Animal Man was really good. It also sets up the end of the Psycho Pirate story in the book. "Just turn it off." It's terrible to read in trades though because you have Buddy staring off page at something all shocked and then the next page everything is all fine because it didn't get resolved in Animal Man.
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May 10, 2016 19:54
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Pretty par for the course with event tie ins. The aftermath issue was really good too, so I ever gave it much thought.
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May 10, 2016 22:26
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I loved Invasion! Also, it had a lot more effect on Swamp Thing than you'd expect. Alan Moore's last arc on the book has the aliens shoot Swampy off the Earth to get him out of their way, where he ends up wandering the cosmos for like a year, while his vibrations are all out of whack with the Green. He ends up stopping eventually on a planet that's all plant and makes the mistake of using those plants to make his body because whoa, it's a planet of sentient plant people. Eventually a dying old man of a plant lets him take his body, as he happens to be friends with the local Green Lantern, who then helps him fix his problems and return home. Also, in a later story, Swamp Thing goes to Hell (he seems to go there often enough) and we find out that the aliens who died during Invasion! wound up in Earth Hell, which was a kinda fun twist.
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