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Leviathan Song posted:Where exactly can you hit submit on a computer and be done with your taxes at any income level? The answer is that you can't. There are other exceptions and the optimistic estimate is that 70% of people have free efiling available, the realistic number is probably less than half. I've used H&R block for free online the last several years including for things like dividends, capital gains, and trust dissolution. I've never seen any income limit or form that I would need to pay to file.
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Xenoborg posted:I've used H&R block for free online the last several years including for things like dividends, capital gains, and trust dissolution. I've never seen any income limit or form that I would need to pay to file. Anecdotes are not data. It's great that you can file yours online but it's ridiculous that it's not open to everyone. http://www.wsj.com/articles/why-free-file-for-taxes-isnt-so-popular-1422633546
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Leviathan Song posted:Unless you're in the large chunk of people who make too much money or have any investments at all. One year turbotax wanted an extra 80 dollars because I had about 30 cents of qualified dividends. In that case you can use the free filing form from the IRS (if you're over $60K, I think). E: nm, that doesn't cover state filing. Subjunctive fucked around with this message at 15:22 on May 5, 2016 |
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And that is a horrid system compared to the first world.
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SiGmA_X posted:And that is a horrid system compared to the first world. That's because we're slowly sliding back to a 3rd world country.
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May 5, 2016 15:53
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Our taxes are lower, but gently caress you if you think that means easier.
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Yeah I didn't mean to imply our system was at all good, Intuit et al makes sure to lobby congress to ensure that tax filing remains required and difficult.
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TaxAct on IRS website is also free and simple
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May 5, 2016 18:55
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Vahakyla posted:TaxAct on IRS website is also free and simple
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I will take the 10-20% lower tax burden in exchange for a couple hours of inconvenience per year, although in principle I agree our system in the United States is excessively complicated and fragmented.
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BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:I will take the 10-20% lower tax burden in exchange for a couple hours of inconvenience per year, although in principle I agree our system in the United States is excessively complicated and fragmented. It's not like it would cost appreciably more to do it right though, hell the IRS basically said "yeah we're ready to go" and Congress was all "lol no gently caress u have a funding cut instead" In a more general sense though I don't think a 10%-20% cut in taxes is at all worth the atrocious state of our social services, education, infrastructure, etc.
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BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:I will take the 10-20% lower tax burden in exchange for a couple hours of inconvenience per year, although in principle I agree our system in the United States is excessively complicated and fragmented. I'm pretty sure the overly complex tax code increases tax burden. I mean they've gotta hire people to check returns on their side also.
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BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:I will take the 10-20% lower tax burden in exchange for a couple hours of inconvenience per year, although in principle I agree our system in the United States is excessively complicated and fragmented. lol
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Weatherman posted:OK sorry I meant "online, for free, and with a minimum of hassle". Any Australian salary worker who pays someone to do their taxes is immensely BWM. All the information is already filled out for them, it's basically a 2 minute formality of logging into e-tax and confirming it's all correct
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I think we all know what the solution here is. Flat tax, no deductions. Fire 90% of the IRS.
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potatoducks posted:I think we all know what the solution here is. Flat tax, no deductions. Fire 90% of the IRS. lol or, "BW poorer people's money"
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May 6, 2016 02:03
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100% horse tax, 100% horse estate tax
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Filing taxes as an expat is very easy in Taiwan, and only takes about 5 minutes. I still need to file my US taxes but I can do it online, the only tricky part is because I have a very minuscule (less than $100) from the US that are automatically reinvested in my US retirement accounts.
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bringmyfishback posted:If this is true, I am extremely happy and relieved for you. Thanks man. Divorce is total failure but also the best thing.
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Weatherman posted:or, "BW poorer people's money" BWM: being poor
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bad with money question: For my entire life I've filed my own tax returns. Mostly been easy. Figured them out with studying IRS docs and using Turbotax. Filing for 2015 was difficult. I had to pay a poo poo load of money to the IRS. I'm considering now, a month later, to consult with an accountant to review and see if I really checked everything and if not do an amendment. Would BFC recommend this? What would it cost on average? IRA early withdrawal, 1 investment property, figuring out just how to file in the first place was a challenge since I divorced in 2016 but married for 100% of 2015 - ex filed married separately so I had to do the same. Crazy rule that when married filing separately you can't get a child care tax credit. Just a lot of new stuff thrown at me.
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zaurg posted:bad with money question: You might want to consult with an accountant. There are exceptions that allow one to file as head of household, even if the spouse is claiming married filing separate. A tax accountant would help you determine if you qualify for those exceptions.
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zaurg posted:bad with money question: Holy poo poo. It may have taken a while, but someone actually took the internet's advice and severed?
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Blinkman987 posted:Holy poo poo. It may have taken a while, but someone actually took the internet's advice and severed? You finally did it, zaurg! Cicero fucked around with this message at 21:47 on May 6, 2016 |
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zaurg posted:bad with money question:
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Blinkman987 posted:Holy poo poo. It may have taken a while, but someone actually took the internet's advice and severed? He shrewdly waited to have some kids and buy a house first.
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Giraffe posted:He shrewdly waited to have some kids and buy a house first.  Zaurg, the cost for an accountant varies wildly with location and services. I can't say whether you should have someone look at it, but if you are, you're just going to have to call around locally and/or get recommendations from people you know.
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Wasn't his wife in accounting or something? Maybe I am mixing my bfc stories.
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Blinkman987 posted:Holy poo poo. It may have taken a while, but someone actually took the internet's advice and severed? I'm torn between being glad that he got out of that poo poo, and disappointed that we won't get any more zaurg stories. My official guess is that she left him, but it's good that he's out, however it happened.
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lol if you think that Europeans pay significantly more in taxes / fees than Americans. If you want to be pedantic about definition of a tax, that's technically true then... but that's very misleading about what minimum costs of living mean. If you add in the fact that these statistics exclude healthcare costs which Europeans get typically, Americans on average pay a lot more for worse services and a whole hell of a lot more paperwork to fill out if you job hop. I pay out easily 40% of my income in healthcare and taxes, and I still have zero guarantee about whether treatment for a terminal illness won't put me in bankruptcy despite the passage of ACA.zaurg posted:I'm considering now, a month later, to consult with an accountant to review and see if I really checked everything and if not do an amendment. Would BFC recommend this? What would it cost on average? IRA early withdrawal, 1 investment property, figuring out just how to file in the first place was a challenge since I divorced in 2016 but married for 100% of 2015 - ex filed married separately so I had to do the same. Also, married filing separately is horrific in the tax rates (really, phasing out / elimination of almost every deduction possible) so I wouldn't be surprised if you owe this year when you've historically gotten a small return.
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necrobobsledder posted:lol if you think that Europeans pay significantly more in taxes / fees than Americans for now. just wait superior EUgoons for the collapse of your empire and the welcoming of your russian overlords.
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Zaurg, I'm not ashamed to say that I want to hear the story, if you're willing to share it here or in another thread. I want to know what happened with all her crazy money demands! I followed your threads. I bet other people want to know too.
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necrobobsledder posted:lol if you think that Europeans pay significantly more in taxes / fees than Americans. If you want to be pedantic about definition of a tax, that's technically true then... but that's very misleading about what minimum costs of living mean. If you add in the fact that these statistics exclude healthcare costs which Europeans get typically, Americans on average pay a lot more for worse services and a whole hell of a lot more paperwork to fill out if you job hop. I pay out easily 40% of my income in healthcare and taxes, and I still have zero guarantee about whether treatment for a terminal illness won't put me in bankruptcy despite the passage of ACA. Even if you just add in all of the per capita healthcare expenses in the US not currently funded by taxes (about half) and treat it like "should be income tax" Americans still pay a significantly lower hypothetical income tax burden than countries like Belgium, Austria, Germany, France, and Italy. This is also ignoring the large EU VAT compared to typical US sales taxes as well as various property and usage taxes that are typically much higher in Europe. It is not a particularly controversial point to suggest that almost any way you measure it taxation is higher in Western Europe than in the US.
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A wild zaurg appears
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Cicero posted:Haha I totally didn't notice who it was until I read your post. god bless
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Breaking: Area man files as head of household despite divorce, is zaurg
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Who got the wonderhangers when you split stuff up?
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drat, first Caro is found alive and well (?), we've got the triumphant return of Zaurg, and the New York Times is linking to front page posts. What a time to be a goon.
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Mojo Threepwood posted:drat, first Caro is found alive and well (?), we've got the triumphant return of Zaurg, and the New York Times is linking to front page posts. What a time to be a goon. Trump's America is gonna be so great with money. We're gonna have so much money, you won't know what to do with it.
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potee posted:Trump's America is gonna be so great with money. We're gonna have so much money, you won't know what to do with it.
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