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TOO MANY GOBLINS posted:I live a few hours away from here and the pictures I've been seeing are hosed PYF new phone wallpapers!!
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They showed footage of those fires from people running from them tonight on the news, jesus. That's terrifying.
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Phanatic posted:Norman Maclean's book "Young Men and Fire," about the Mann Gulch Fire which claimed 13 firefighters in Montana in 1949 and was the deadliest wilderness fire until the South Canyon Fire in 1994, is an amazing book and every should read it. High winds caused the fire to jump past the men, cutting off their escape route to the Missouri River and they had to drop their tools and packs and sprint for the top of the hill. The foreman, Wagner Dodge,set an escape fire and laid down in the burned area but the others either didn't understand what he was doing or didn't care and kept running.
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Tendai posted:They showed footage of those fires from people running from them tonight on the news, jesus. That's terrifying. Toss a link
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Tendai posted:It was on TV? I mean I'm guessing that if you search on youtube you'll find some, there were a fuckton of different videos from people in cars going through tunnels of flame that were leaping across the roads. Ah. Well guess I'm off to yootoobs
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May 5, 2016 03:32
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Goddamnit, here comes Autism controversy chat again. Edit: Here's some footage of an actual fire burnover event: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcIIQ_5s_Y0 bootsy has a new favorite as of 04:29 on May 5, 2016 |
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May 5, 2016 04:21
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3dPlVvkIZ8 The occasional white wisps you see coming off the trees all of the gasses from the tree escaping, being sucked up and exploding into fire. Funky See Funky Do has a new favorite as of 04:41 on May 5, 2016 |
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May 5, 2016 04:37
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Alereon posted:I'm sorry if it seemed like I was telling people how to feel about their disabilities, it is a pet peeve of mine when people advance highly unorthodox and controversial opinions as if they were generally accepted. That's why I linked to a Wikipedia article on Neurodiversity, both so people could learn the debate existed and a side was being taken, and because I think people would find the existence of that kind of advocacy interesting. I should have resisted the urge to editorialize though and I'm sorry I made you mad, I won't post any more about it here. gently caress that. You posted a valid criticism of a controversial idea in a thread where it was being discussed. Don't let one whiney little moron derail you posting actual facts and making people aware of both sides of a debate.
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May 5, 2016 04:40
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Terrible Opinions posted:You can do all that in America too. You just can't do it where the rich people live. Don't you have those weird gated villages in the UK? Oh we have some of those yeah, but they are the exception rather than the norm. I have no idea if any of those have committees to monitor your hedge sizes though. Imagined posted:I've never been to the UK and even I know this isn't true. There are plenty of historic villages where any outward change to your home has to be approved by the local council, who will absolutely not approve anything that doesn't match the local aesthetic. Lol also yeah that is true - the smaller the population size the more people get funny about that stuff. I think if you live in an 'historic' village that is dependent on looking pretty to keep local business and tourism afloat you should be aware of that moving into it, tbh. Stuff like 'Best Kept Village of the year' also produces some amazing blowhards. quote:THE Best Kept Village competition, with 3,000 entries in England and Wales this summer, has been criticised by one of its judges who believes the exercise has become tainted with suburban values. quote:For decades they have allowed residents to show off the best of village life – from immaculate greens to timeless shop fronts and colourful flowers. So yeah I guess we do have those problems, but we don't generally have HOAs
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Rondette posted:Oh we have some of those yeah, but they are the exception rather than the norm. I have no idea if any of those have committees to monitor your hedge sizes though.
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Bertrand Hustle posted:I would imagine anything that does not further traumatize your patient is a good place to start. At the risk of extending a conversation that other posters don't find relevant to HOA discussion: You're not offering an alternative; you're assuming the mental state of another person (traumatized); and you're further assuming that it would be best to spare "trauma" but allow a patient to blind themselves. Electroshock is an easy target, because it looks and sounds disagreeable. Meanwhile, hippotherapy, dolphin therapy, facilitated communication, rebirthing, chelation, consuming bleach solutions, excessive restraints, isolation, and even school-sponsored corporal punishment have less scientific evidence in regards to their efficacy in treatment of behavioral excess.
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With regards to wildfires, California had these last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN1--qnj8ww https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qejrvm-G5bQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lVPB3HI9Wg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHIYwDXDqv0
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nocal posted:At the risk of extending a conversation that other posters don't find relevant to HOA discussion: lol
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nocal posted:You're not offering an alternative; you're assuming the mental state of another person (traumatized); and you're further assuming that it would be best to spare "trauma" but allow a patient to blind themselves. I'm not a therapist, I'm a PTA student, but thanks for putting words in my mouth. I never said "allow a patient to blind themselves" but there's plenty of evidence that inflicting pain on a person is just about the worst way to achieve any kind of result except distress and trauma. nocal posted:
All those other things you listed are bullshit at best and dangerous and damaging at worst, I'll give you that, but we're not talking about electroshock, aka electroconvulsive therapy (ECT). That's not what everyone is up in arms about. What we're talking about is the use of painful electric shocks as an "aversive", which decent people generally view as a torture technique rather than a legitimate therapeutic intervention. It unnerves the hell out of me that this is even controversial. These are human beings being subjected to this.
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May 5, 2016 11:06
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Ever wished you couldn't feel pain? Like a scraped knee, a broken bone or an endless derail? Well some people can't and it ruins their lives. There's an excellent documentary about a girl with the disorder out there somewhere but at the moment I can't find it. It may be the same girl in this news story which will have to do until I can find the doco. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnABHy6tjL8
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May 5, 2016 11:33
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Funky See Funky Do posted:Ever wished you couldn't feel pain? Like a scraped knee, a broken bone or an endless derail? Well some people can't and it ruins their lives. There's an excellent documentary about a girl with the disorder out there somewhere but at the moment I can't find it. It may be the same girl in this news story which will have to do until I can find the doco. So I guess from a certain point of view torturing someone is very charitable
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May 5, 2016 12:10
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Funky See Funky Do posted:Ever wished you couldn't feel pain? Like a scraped knee, a broken bone or an endless derail? Well some people can't and it ruins their lives. My mom informed me of this disorder once when I complained about pain. It left an impression. Platystemon has a new favorite as of 13:16 on May 5, 2016 |
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May 5, 2016 12:51
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nocal posted:At the risk of extending a conversation that other posters don't find relevant to HOA discussion: I was very disappointed to google hippotherapy and find out it refers to horses. Hippopotamus therapy would have been way cooler.
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C.M. Kruger posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lVPB3HI9Wg
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Bertrand Hustle posted:I'm not a therapist, I'm a PTA student, but thanks for putting words in my mouth. I never said "allow a patient to blind themselves" but there's plenty of evidence that inflicting pain on a person is just about the worst way to achieve any kind of result except distress and trauma. Except in cases of severe undifferentiated SIB, it can be effective. Point is that sometimes it's a value judgment between shocks or blindness and skull fractures. How about this for unnerving: I know an adult who has damaged his own eyes, and is now blind.
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Alereon posted:I'm sorry if it seemed like I was telling people how to feel about their disabilities, it is a pet peeve of mine when people advance highly unorthodox and controversial opinions as if they were generally accepted. On-topic for the thread: Hitler's mass killing of disabled children predated the beginning of the Jewish Holocaust by two years, and while much smaller, was similarly horrifying: https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005200 quote:On August 18, 1939, the Reich Ministry of the Interior circulated a decree requiring all physicians, nurses, and midwives to report newborn infants and children under the age of three who showed signs of severe mental or physical disability. Steve Silbermann writes about a nurse who tried to save her severely disabled child from this program: quote:“It was unambiguously clear from his remarks that he endorsed the entire operation against ‘life unworthy of life’ and that he was prepared to do whatever the Nazis demanded.” She begged Jekelius to at least grant her son a quick and painless death, and he promised to do that. On February 22, 1941, Alfred, six years old, perished of “pneumonia” at Am Spigelgrund. When Wödl viewed her son’s corpse, it was obvious that he had died in agony.” And this bit from a documentary includes quite a bit of footage of Nazi propaganda against the "drooling imbeciles" who are consuming resources and generally being a drain on society: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HOcbkSiKUc
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pookel posted:And this bit from a documentary includes quite a bit of footage of Nazi propaganda against the "drooling imbeciles" who are consuming resources and generally being a drain on society: What's truly unnerving is how close we are to this in the US.
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Aleph Null posted:What's truly unnerving is how close we are to this in the US.
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pookel posted:Riiiiight, the country in which it takes a 13-year court battle for the guardian of a woman who is literally brain-dead to be allowed to let her die is "close" to government-mandated euthanasia of disabled children. Sure. The US is alarmingly inconsistent when it comes to what sparks a media circus. That only happened because Jeb Bush got a bug up his butt about it.
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Although this is in the same category, I find it creepy in a whole different way. Apologies for linking to the Daily Fail, but they have the most comprehensive coverage I could find: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...er-suicide.html quote:An ailing Arizona mother and her special-needs 12-year-old daughter have been discovered dead in their Mesa home as a result of an apparent murder-suicide. According to police, officers responding to a 911 call went to a home where a man said he'd returned from work Monday and found his wife and daughter dead. Police identify the mother as 45-year-old Marcia Wentzel and the daughter as 12-year-old Caitlin Wentzel. Mothers who kill their children in a murder-suicide aren't unheard of, and neither are 12-year-olds who commit suicide. But a mother and a 12-year-old writing suicide notes together? That's a new one to me.
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bootsy posted:Edit: Here's some footage of an actual fire burnover event: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcIIQ_5s_Y0 Goddamn. Fire is terrifying. Rondette posted:Oh we have some of those yeah, but they are the exception rather than the norm. I have no idea if any of those have committees to monitor your hedge sizes though. Wow, and Hot Fuzz was closer to the truth than I realized.
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Funky See Funky Do posted:Ever wished you couldn't feel pain? Like a scraped knee, a broken bone or an endless derail? Well some people can't and it ruins their lives. There's an excellent documentary about a girl with the disorder out there somewhere but at the moment I can't find it. It may be the same girl in this news story which will have to do until I can find the doco. Odd coincidence, there's an article on this in the new issue of Fortean Times and I was about to post about it.
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Nth Doctor posted:Wow, and Hot Fuzz was closer to the truth than I realized. It's pretty much a docudrama.
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pookel posted:Riiiiight, the country in which it takes a 13-year court battle for the guardian of a woman who is literally brain-dead to be allowed to let her die is "close" to government-mandated euthanasia of disabled children. Sure. Shaming people for needing public assistance while trying to gut benefits; blaming problems on "illegals"; bathroom bills to dehumanizing trans people; "religious freedom" to discriminate at will. If it weren't for Obamacare, we'd have way more people going into insurmountable debt for preexisting conditions. Hell, the rise of Trump. People are afraid and need scapegoats. I can easily see the rhetoric growing to include shunning disability in general as a drain on society.
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My grandmother was terrified of mentally disabled people and was uncomfortable around anyone in a wheelchair or who was missing a limb. I always wondered if she was just totally hosed up in some kind of personal way or if there were other people out there like that.
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Jack Gladney posted:My grandmother was terrified of mentally disabled people and was uncomfortable around anyone in a wheelchair or who was missing a limb. I always wondered if she was just totally hosed up in some kind of personal way or if there were other people out there like that. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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Funky See Funky Do posted:Ever wished you couldn't feel pain? Like a scraped knee, a broken bone or an endless derail? Well some people can't and it ruins their lives. There's an excellent documentary about a girl with the disorder out there somewhere but at the moment I can't find it. It may be the same girl in this news story which will have to do until I can find the doco. Was it this? http://www.alifewithoutpain.com/about.php If it was, that's a really good documentary. If it wasn't, that's still a really good documentary.
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Jack Gladney posted:My grandmother was terrified of mentally disabled people and was uncomfortable around anyone in a wheelchair or who was missing a limb. I always wondered if she was just totally hosed up in some kind of personal way or if there were other people out there like that. I had a phobia of people missing limbs or digits that I got help for because I didn't want to be unintentionally rude to people who were in that situation. I had had it since childhood, have no idea where it came from, glad it's gone.
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Kaizoku posted:Was it this? http://www.alifewithoutpain.com/about.php That was it! Thanks for finding it. E: The adorable little chubby girl wearing swimming goggles? She's not going swimming. She has to wear them so she doesn't accidentally gouge her loving eyes out. Funky See Funky Do has a new favorite as of 00:04 on May 6, 2016 |
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C.M. Kruger posted:With regards to wildfires, California had these last year: Yeah, that was a pretty bad season. My grandparents' house was one hill away from the Butte fire and was even used as an outpost by firefighters. They left on a trip literally the day before the fire got really bad and there was a real worry that the house would be gone when they got back.
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Was someone in this thread looking for the reconstructed image of the woman with her hand over her face? I found her on the "identified" page of the Doe Network. She was identified as Cheryl Bowman, but I can't find any other information.
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verbal enema posted:Is that how she died or was it well beyond proper reconstruction distinct rings, no(t enough?) face to reconstruct
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