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Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

VileLL posted:

how could anyone actually justify voting lib dem

i genuinely can’t figure out the thought process there

I don't vote. I got about 1000 students to vote for Clegg, never again.

. o O ( Vote for Mr Clegg, Change is Coming! )

I'll literally punch people who identify as Lib Dems now.

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TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Hexyflexy posted:

I'll literally punch people who identify as Lib Dems now.

:(

(In all seriousness, a lot of rural councils are Lib Dem/Conservative marginals, with Labour nowhere)

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Hexyflexy posted:

I don't vote. I got about 1000 students to vote for Clegg, never again.

. o O ( Vote for Mr Clegg, Change is Coming! )

I'll literally punch people who identify as Lib Dems now.

Corbyn mania reminds me of Cleggmania.

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction
If you wanted to be a dick (And I do) the Blairites are actually still in Charge in Scotland and look how much better Labour could have done if they'd been running the party! :haw:

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
Is Kezia Dugdale really a Blairite?

sweek0
May 22, 2006

Let me fall out the window
With confetti in my hair
Deal out jacks or better
On a blanket by the stairs
I'll tell you all my secrets
But I lie about my past

VileLL posted:

how could anyone actually justify voting lib dem

i genuinely can’t figure out the thought process there

I voted Lib Dem with a Labour second preference. They're the party closest to my own ideas and, while I have very mixed feelings about the coalition years, I do believe that they got way too much flack for a minority partner in that government and that they stopped the Tories from doing quite a few bad things. But I'm used to coalitions and I feel like the Brits don't quite view them in the same way I do.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

First results are in for NI, all major parties bar the UUP have seen dips in support (with SF losing over 3% of their first preference vote share)

Former MP Naomi Long is in for Alliance in Belfast East easily.

Anti-austerity socialist party PBP have had a very good showing, topping the poll in Belfast West and securing their first assembly seat. Their candidate Eamonn McCann polled stronger than expected and looks well placed to take another seat in Foyle if transfers from another left wing independent go his way l, which they should.

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

Pissflaps posted:

Corbyn mania reminds me of Cleggmania.

Ah, see where you're coming from now. I'm not sure "on the ground" it's the same, though that's from me in the middle of bloody sheffield. As I keep saying to my mates - "Neil Kinnock".

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Hexyflexy posted:

Ah, see where you're coming from now. I'm not sure "on the ground" it's the same, though that's from me in the middle of bloody sheffield. As I keep saying to my mates - "Neil Kinnock".

What do they say when you say 'neil kinnock' to them?

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
The Government aren't going to force schools to become academies. This is good.

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

Pissflaps posted:

What do they say when you say 'neil kinnock' to them?

They freeze up and say nothing. It's an amazing stalling tactic.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

kustomkarkommando posted:

Anti-austerity socialist party PBP have had a very good showing, topping the poll in Belfast West and securing their first assembly seat.

I'm hoping this means the NI Greens get a seat in the same, because I really want Ellen to be the best MLgAy ever.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Khan well ahead with 90% of the votes counted; looking like a convincing win at this point.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
I think it's good because While Ed had more over the Tories his poll numbers trended downwards while Corbyn's are trending upwards.

IceAgeComing
Jan 29, 2013

pretty fucking embarrassing to watch

TinTower posted:

I'm hoping this means the NI Greens get a seat in the same, because I really want Ellen to be the best MLgAy ever.

unlikely unless she gets a load of preferences, second last on the first count with only the alliance behind her

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

ronya posted:

linky link?

in this analysis bit

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

VileLL posted:

how could anyone actually justify voting lib dem

i genuinely can’t figure out the thought process there

They were my second preference for PCC on the logic that if I can't get someone I agree with in that post the next best thing is a totally incompetent idiot.

Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism



Nicky Morgan on Academies Climb Down posted:

Better to have reforms than have none at all.

"We must do something, this is something..." etc. etc.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
7 police forces are investigating the tories overspending on elections and 3 have requested for extra time for it so prosecutions can happen if needed

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

IceAgeComing posted:

unlikely unless she gets a load of preferences, second last on the first count with only the alliance behind her

I know a lot of PBP preferences are going to the Greens. Probably not enough to get her up to challenging the major parties.

Shame, really, Ellen is amazing.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Jose posted:

7 police forces are investigating the tories overspending on elections and 3 have requested for extra time for it so prosecutions can happen if needed

how large is the Tory majority again?

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Tesseraction posted:

how large is the Tory majority again?

22.

Of note is that it's possible that most of the Tory gains from the Lib Dems in the South West might be overturned. Cameron should be bricking it right now.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Pissflaps posted:

The Government aren't going to force schools to become academies. This is good.

Ooh, sauce?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
4 more forces might start investigations

Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism




http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-36227570

Isambard K. Brunel
Nov 2, 2011

``...an explosion in the engine room ... would have destroyed a lesser ship''
https://twitter.com/TiernanDouieb/status/728588216744464385

or

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-36227570

e: fixed link

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Pistol_Pete posted:

Khan well ahead with 90% of the votes counted; looking like a convincing win at this point.

Again, don't read too much into that at a national level - Labour have pretty much a guaranteed 40% vote in London, and the Tories took drubbings even in the first election where Ken was splitting the vote (well actually I suppose Frank Dobson was splitting the Ken vote).

The Tories have never particularly bothered to contest it or put their best and brightest in there (Liverpudlian Shagger Norris, or as he's known affectionately in London, "Who?" was their candidate for the first two elections because literally nobody else wanted it). Boris getting it was a major black eye for the Tory leadership who hoped he would Boris it all up and disappear back into obscurity, but the man ran a good campaign (with the assistance of the Standard when people still read it) as Livingstone melted down and more importantly did literally nothing at all even vaguely Tory once he got in, with the exception of calling in a couple of planning applications so his chums could build tall buildings.

The very fact that the best face they could come up with to front their campaign was Zac Goldsmith, a man possibly genetically engineered to repulse anyone who's not a died-in-the-wool Tory, proves how little they actually cared about this campaign. Given just how bitter and negative the campaign was from them I have to wonder if it wasn't actually being used as a proving ground for a more American "Play the man, not the ball" campaign style.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Given just how bitter and negative the campaign was from them I have to wonder if it wasn't actually being used as a proving ground for a more American "Play the man, not the ball" campaign style.

Is it really worth burning basically the entire Muslim vote in Britain for it?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Again, don't read too much into that at a national level - Labour have pretty much a guaranteed 40% vote in London, and the Tories took drubbings even in the first election where Ken was splitting the vote (well actually I suppose Frank Dobson was splitting the Ken vote).

The Tories have never particularly bothered to contest it or put their best and brightest in there (Liverpudlian Shagger Norris, or as he's known affectionately in London, "Who?" was their candidate for the first two elections because literally nobody else wanted it). Boris getting it was a major black eye for the Tory leadership who hoped he would Boris it all up and disappear back into obscurity, but the man ran a good campaign (with the assistance of the Standard when people still read it) as Livingstone melted down and more importantly did literally nothing at all even vaguely Tory once he got in, with the exception of calling in a couple of planning applications so his chums could build tall buildings.

The very fact that the best face they could come up with to front their campaign was Zac Goldsmith, a man possibly genetically engineered to repulse anyone who's not a died-in-the-wool Tory, proves how little they actually cared about this campaign. Given just how bitter and negative the campaign was from them I have to wonder if it wasn't actually being used as a proving ground for a more American "Play the man, not the ball" campaign style.

As I recall, Goldsmith had relatively decent buzz for an ultraprivileged Tory boy. It was engaging in that hideous Lynton Crosby campaign that really wrecked his reputation.

Overminty
Mar 16, 2010

You may wonder what I am doing while reading your posts..


The tag line of this is that plans are being abandoned but then finishes by saying that some things will remain as they are "under the new plans". Is this just 'lol bbc' or have I missed something?

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



Uh oh. Ken on the beeb loving everyone over.

Alertrelic
Apr 18, 2008

goddamnedtwisto posted:

The very fact that the best face they could come up with to front their campaign was Zac Goldsmith, a man possibly genetically engineered to repulse anyone who's not a died-in-the-wool Tory, proves how little they actually cared about this campaign. Given just how bitter and negative the campaign was from them I have to wonder if it wasn't actually being used as a proving ground for a more American "Play the man, not the ball" campaign style.

They already did this with Ed, pictures of him in Salmond's pocket etc.

haakman
May 5, 2011
Lucky it was a slow news day to release this information...

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Trickjaw posted:

Uh oh. Ken on the beeb loving everyone over.

whats he saying?

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Ken Livingtone posted:

HItler was right. He did nothing wrong.

Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism



Overminty posted:

The tag line of this is that plans are being abandoned but then finishes by saying that some things will remain as they are "under the new plans". Is this just 'lol bbc' or have I missed something?

I think it's just saying that, under the new "everything is back to normal" plans, poor performing schools will be forced to academise.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


I hope no-one confuses this "Livingtone" you've quoted with Ken Livingstone, noted senile.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
I think they just want to avoid a co-ordinated teachers and doctors strike. One at a time will be fine.

Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism



Does Ken Livingtone know Jeremy Crobyn?

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Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



Jose posted:

whats he saying?

I did nothing wrong, history, people baying for my blood cost us seats, Corbyn didn't suspend me rah rah rah

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