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I'm watching Paul Cheon play WB Control against BG Sacrifice on the Magic YouTube channel, this happens around 11m30s of Match 3: Paul's at 5 life with a Kalitas. He Languishes a full board including a Zulaport Cutthroat and a Nantuko Husk. The guy sacrifices a creature to get his Husk to 4/4 and triggers the Cutthroat to hit Paul for 1. Then the guy sacc'ed everything to save his Nantuko Husk, but Paul didn't take any damage from the rest of the sacrifices. What am I missing?
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Soul Glo posted:I'm watching Paul Cheon play WB Control against BG Sacrifice on the Magic YouTube channel, this happens around 11m30s of Match 3: Kalitas only exiles nontoken creatures, so if you sacrifice a token, you'll drain for 1 with Cutthroat. You then sac the other creatures, exiling them and giving your opponent 2/2s and not draining the opponent, and then Languish kills those 2/2s.
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May 6, 2016 05:37
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Was the first thing he sacrificed a token? Non-tokens get eaten by Kalitas' replacement effect and don't actually die (and so they won't trigger Cutthroat) but tokens do.
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May 6, 2016 05:41
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Hellsau posted:Kalitas only exiles nontoken creatures, so if you sacrifice a token, you'll drain for 1 with Cutthroat. You then sac the other creatures, exiling them and giving your opponent 2/2s and not draining the opponent, and then Languish kills those 2/2s. Well, yep, that'd be the thing that was staring me right in the face. Good thing I'm watching this to get better at the WB Control deck sitting in front of me! 
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May 6, 2016 05:42
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Soul Glo posted:Well, yep, that'd be the thing that was staring me right in the face. Good thing I'm watching this to get better at the WB Control deck sitting in front of me! You must read the cards! Best rule to get better - read what the cards do.
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May 6, 2016 05:42
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There is nothing wrong with using California raisin guys as tokens as long as you tip them over when they are tapped.
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May 6, 2016 05:45
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Hellsau posted:You must read the cards! Best rule to get better - read what the cards do. Solid advice, I'll take it into consideration.
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May 6, 2016 05:46
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Babylon Astronaut posted:There is nothing wrong with using California raisin guys as tokens as long as you tip them over when they are tapped. I have a pack of sweet looking Pokemon cards to use for various tokens, because older Pokemon cards look cool and are generally worthless. Plus they're WotC products, so they're definitely endorsed for use here.
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May 6, 2016 06:05
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quote:Those Peach Tree Oath guys trigger the gently caress out of me. I'm sorry but 3 basement nerds are nowhere near being legendary warriors/statesmen. I doubt Liu Bei, Guan Yu and Zhang Fei sat around their parents basements playing card games. Don't get me wrong, I love CCGs, but the arrogance of taking that name boggles my mind. Let me know when they have an epic piece of literature composed about them that people are still reading 2000 years from now.
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May 6, 2016 12:22
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If they're a drunkard, a basketball player, and a guy with more connections than sense, then they can still be the sworn brothers to me. They just need a guy who tells them benevolence a bunch. I'll do it. Visit me three times. Let me in coach I'm ready!
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May 6, 2016 12:44
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Hellsau posted:You must read the cards! Best rule to get better - read what the cards do. ask me about the time I thought maelstrom pulse was an instant instead of a sorcery and passed turn with the ability to not lose the game in my hand.
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May 6, 2016 12:45
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PleasantDirge posted:If you're having fun you're doing magic right! Share your super dumb/fun combo with the rest of the class? Chancellor of the Forge + Blazing Shoals + Assault Strobe. I have a mana ramp so, i might put in some giant eldrazi creatures to make 20 dmg or 30. So far testing on cockatrice it has about a 30% chance of doing 4 - 8 dmg or better 1st turn. Im gonna put some L bolts for follow up. If i dont draw any of the hands i want to start and dont draw any mana ramp it gets beat. Might try to do something about it, might not.
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May 6, 2016 13:16
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I have a decision to make. For FNM tonight do I run: Seasons Past Gr Ramp Mono U Brains My head is saying I should get more Seasons practice in, but my heart says the Brains deck is hella fun and wins far more than it deserves (and causes more than it's fair share of salt). Ramp is the unsafe safe choice, since I know it like the back of my hand, but it sucks in the current meta so bad with all the gross coco and weenie decks around.
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May 6, 2016 13:26
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ButtWolf posted:Chancellor of the Forge + Blazing Shoals + Assault Strobe. I have a mana ramp so, i might put in some giant eldrazi creatures to make 20 dmg or 30. So far testing on cockatrice it has about a 30% chance of doing 4 - 8 dmg or better 1st turn. Im gonna put some L bolts for follow up. If i dont draw any of the hands i want to start and dont draw any mana ramp it gets beat. Might try to do something about it, might not. I'm assuming this is a casual brew since Blazing Shoal is banned in modern? Well if thats the case, you could also throw in something like myojin of infinite rage. Since it costs 10, that plus assault strobe equal a dead enemy. It makes your god hand Mountain, Chancellor of the Forge, Blazing Shoal, Assault Strobe, Myojin of Infinite Rage plus whatever able to kill on turn 1. Its not super consistent, but it is a ramp target that fits in more with your plan A. Also, being able to get a Myojin of Infinite Rage out off of Ramp spells and then destroying all lands seems like good times.
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May 6, 2016 13:32
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Xaerael posted:I have a decision to make. For FNM tonight do I run: brains forever
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May 6, 2016 13:58
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I'm tempted to buy brains for a PPTQ tomorrow and run it cold.
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May 6, 2016 14:33
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Snacksmaniac posted:I'm tempted to buy brains for a PPTQ tomorrow and run it cold. I know the whole PPTQ thing means that there's about two dozen of them a week now, but I'll ask which you're going to anyway since I'll be doing one too possibly.
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May 6, 2016 15:02
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Speaking of PPTQ's, I feel like LGS's are retarded because all of them want to do them on Saturday, won't coordinate with each other, and Sunday is left without anybody wanting to do them.
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May 6, 2016 15:10
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Xaerael posted:I have a decision to make. For FNM tonight do I run: The MTGoldfish brains deck is really bad.
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May 6, 2016 15:14
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Sickening posted:Speaking of PPTQ's, I feel like LGS's are retarded because all of them want to do them on Saturday, won't coordinate with each other, and Sunday is left without anybody wanting to do them. Yeah that's super dumb, around here they all collaborate to make sure there are options every weekend rather than on one day.
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May 6, 2016 15:41
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The LGS that I frequent is closed on Sunday because jesus. 😞
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May 6, 2016 15:44
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Xaerael posted:I know the whole PPTQ thing means that there's about two dozen of them a week now, but I'll ask which you're going to anyway since I'll be doing one too possibly.  I usually just run them or go in and take the trade ins from the extra customer traffic at my friends store. And our Sunday PPTQ drew poorly. 80s James Hetfield posted:The MTGoldfish brains deck is really bad. I think it was originally in Saito's rotation deck gallery. But when has bad stopped anyone.
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May 6, 2016 15:44
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80s James Hetfield posted:The MTGoldfish brains deck is really bad. The lack of ellipses is triggering me.
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May 6, 2016 15:50
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Angry Grimace posted:I wonder why Hanweir Miltia Captain isn't in the tokens deck? My best guess is that it's ridiculously weak to languish on either side (4 anthem effects to save it on its front, even harder on its back), compared to hangarback. That said, some peeps somewhere were sideboarding it for the mirror IIRC.
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May 6, 2016 15:55
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Here's a mechanics question: I cast a Rolling Thunder for 10 damage, then I exile Geistblast from my graveyard to copy it, does the copy also hit for 10? Not sure how copying an X cost spell works, basically. e: \/\/\/ Cool, thanks. \/\/\/ Soul Glo fucked around with this message at 16:01 on May 6, 2016 |
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May 6, 2016 15:56
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Soul Glo posted:Here's a mechanics question: I cast a Rolling Thunder for 10 damage, then I exile Geistblast from my graveyard to copy it, does the copy also hit for 10? Not sure how copying an X cost spell works, basically. "If the spell being copied has an X whose value was determined as it was cast (like Avacyn’s Judgment’s madness cost has), the copy will have the same value of X."
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May 6, 2016 15:58
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Snacksmaniac posted:If yours is in Michigan, I'll give you more details on mine Sunday always draws less of a crowd than Saturday. But does it draw less than competing against 5 other stores the same day?
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May 6, 2016 16:19
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Sickening posted:Sunday always draws less of a crowd than Saturday. But does it draw less than competing against 5 other stores the same day? I've got 5 different LGS in my area with another 2 that are looking to start MTG events and I have 0 PPTQs most weekends. Why? Because they all are cannibalizing the same player base and back when they actually held PTQs, they'd all hold theirs on the same day, in the same place, and then "learned" that there was too much competition to make PTQs worth it. Also, we have exactly 5 standard tournaments every week... at 6:30pm on Friday nights in 5 different locations. When I ask if they can run standard on other nights, replies are "We tried that years ago, there's no interest." I've been playing for ~3 years, I haven't seen anyone in the area run standard on any other night than Friday in that entire time. But hey, we've got modern running in the area on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays, and Fridays. Rant over, I guess.
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Count Bleck posted:The lack of ellipses is triggering me. Holy poo poo, did mcmagic get a name change?
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May 6, 2016 17:14
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ButtWolf posted:Good. I got a real cheap hit for 16 on turn 1 gimmick deck. I like dumb poo poo. Reminder that Infect Shoal got second in the first Modern PT and lead to Blazing Shoal's ban. I actually love that deck, I think the design is a thing of beauty.
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May 6, 2016 17:59
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Procrastinator posted:My best guess is that it's ridiculously weak to languish on either side (4 anthem effects to save it on its front, even harder on its back), compared to hangarback. That said, some peeps somewhere were sideboarding it for the mirror IIRC. I would agree to some extent, but I rarely seem to get much in the way of counters on my Walker to begin with.
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May 6, 2016 18:10
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Got an email today from LSV with an Eternal Beta Key. Pretty excited to give it a shot.
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PleasantDirge posted:If you're having fun you're doing magic right! Share your super dumb/fun combo with the rest of the class? Hitting for 16 can only mean Shoal + Painters Servant + Draco
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May 6, 2016 18:59
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First time playing Standard in years, I think the last time I was cascading into Blightnings and so on. Managed only one tournament rules mistake worth a game loss (at higher RELs), hopefully none tomorrow at the PTQ. Ran with a pretty standard BG Seasons. Dunno about anything else but at least the deck is really fun once it starts rolling. Should have a bit better idea what to bring on tomorrow with the sideboard, though probably sideboarding pretty poo poo currently.
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May 6, 2016 19:15
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ThePeavstenator posted:Got an email today from LSV with an Eternal Beta Key. Pretty excited to give it a shot. I've been playing for a week and I think even with the NDA I'm allowed to say that I like it a lot
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May 6, 2016 19:21
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Elyv posted:I've been playing for a week and I think even with the NDA I'm allowed to say that I like it a lot Is there a system for friends lists? If so add me: ThePeavstenator
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May 6, 2016 19:23
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Elyv posted:Reminder that Infect Shoal got second in the first Modern PT and lead to Blazing Shoal's ban. Oh man. Ive never seen this. I like infect too. Btw added l bolts and chancellor of the dross to get extra damage if in hand. Still winning in less than two turns about 40% of the time, mana ramp successful for giants about often. 11- 8 against casual but mostly good not perfect decks. Im really liking Brains too, but I think I need to wait before dropping big money into another deck. Edit: oh its cheaper than i thought cause i cant read good.
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Lunsku posted:First time playing Standard in years, I think the last time I was cascading into Blightnings and so on. Managed only one tournament rules mistake worth a game loss (at higher RELs), hopefully none tomorrow at the PTQ. The deck is a lot of fun. All the advice I can give is to play fast and don't prioritize seasons over renewal/other stuff too early. Trying to blow a seasons before you have renewal just drags out the game. You need a lot of land in play to make the engine work.
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May 6, 2016 19:43
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Opened fat pack. Foil nahiri. Happy. I was working on http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/brein/ So it's one less.
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Its funny to me that nahiri is 20 bucks now basically from sporadic eternal play.
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