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Democracy these days is mostly about treating fundamental issues as though they are PR problems. Public opinion is an obstacle to be overcome or manipulated rather than something that has any merit or legitimacy in it's own right.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC2iPvXAggM Watching videos like this it's absolutely incredible that no one directly died from this fire. Check out his first two videos for a brave guy on a motorcycle.
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May 6, 2016 17:51
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Helsing posted:Democracy these days is mostly about treating fundamental issues as though they are PR problems. Public opinion is an obstacle to be overcome or manipulated rather than something that has any merit or legitimacy in it's own right. Being able to package and sell everything as a commodity is one of the primary functions of neoliberalism, and this fire will be no different.
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May 6, 2016 18:08
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This just got shared a bunch on my Facebook. A lot of people getting angry at all those lazy leftists who don't take the time to get their proper TDG and first aid training! 
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May 6, 2016 18:15
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May 6, 2016 18:17
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CLAM DOWN posted:0:54 This is what I imagined climate change to look like.
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May 6, 2016 18:30
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May 6, 2016 18:34
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DariusLikewise posted:This just got shared a bunch on my Facebook. A lot of people getting angry at all those lazy leftists who don't take the time to get their proper TDG and first aid training! This one below is making its rounds quote:https://www.facebook.com/kevin.seamons/posts/10153560813672060?pnref=story
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May 6, 2016 18:38
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Helsing posted:Democracy these days is mostly about treating fundamental issues as though they are PR problems. Public opinion is an obstacle to be overcome or manipulated rather than something that has any merit or legitimacy in it's own right. Framed that way, yeah, it sounds pretty lovely. On the other hand, I'm rather sympathetic to the idea that a political party should stake out its core values* and then set about convincing the public to give those core values a chance, rather than just chasing after the public opinion to boost their support from this or that demographic. * This is not to say that the Liberal party has any core values. I'm just speaking hypothetically, obviously.
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May 6, 2016 18:39
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jm20 posted:This one below is making its rounds The Fort Mac persecution complex is something else. People actually died in the Calgary floods and I don't remember Redford doing anything more than Notley has. Helicopter tour, arranging emergency aid, etc. She definitely wasn't in the groups of volunteers mucking out basements because she didn't need to be there.
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May 6, 2016 18:45
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Dreylad posted:This is probably going to go on for a while: superannuated Harper cabinet ministers taking out their frustrations in QP, or in the pages of the National Post. Joe Oliver used Postmedia's tottering flagship paper recently to issue a dire warning to Justin Trudeau: Stop reversing our government's policies, or face the wrath of a noble nation aroused. To which Michael Harris replies: You and what army, Joe? Can the Conservatives turn the page on 2015 and rebuild in time for the next election if they can't stop themselves from picking at old scabs? Not likely. Hahahahaha
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Seat Safety Switch posted:The Fort Mac persecution complex is something else. People actually died in the Calgary floods and I don't remember Redford doing anything more than Notley has. Helicopter tour, arranging emergency aid, etc. I imagine they are trying to tempt her into actually doing something as unimaginably loving retarded as disregarding her actual responsibilities to hand out water bottles in person, so they can then criticize her for something legitimate. That must be it, because I refuse to believe that anyone could be so stupid as to think Notley's energy and time is best spent loving around distributing relief supplies.
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May 6, 2016 18:51
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El Scotch posted:Hahahahaha The actual article is a proclick. quote:If you ever have to give Joe Oliver a lift in the family car, I’d recommend using the backward-facing baby seat.
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May 6, 2016 18:51
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PT6A posted:I imagine they are trying to tempt her into actually doing something as unimaginably loving retarded as disregarding her actual responsibilities to hand out water bottles in person, so they can then criticize her for something legitimate. That must be it, because I refuse to believe that anyone could be so stupid as to think Notley's energy and time is best spent loving around distributing relief supplies. I don't think it's a reasonable idea to read "long-term devious PR plan" into a guy who posts like that with his name attached.
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May 6, 2016 18:54
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So my company is matching my $200, so its going to end up $800 or at most $1200 if AB and CAN end up double matching. Either way that's a pretty good return 
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May 6, 2016 19:01
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Well timed. Just when I was feeling chastened about my attitude toward Albertan caricatures and the horrible people they send to parliament you had to go and post an Albertan caricature like this. Now I'll need to watch a few more of those dash cam videos before I'm ready to cancel my NDP donation and send the money to the Red Cross where it will do some good.  I've spent a fair amount of time keeping the academic version of rig pigs (students in field camps) alive and healthy. There's no doubt in my mind that this idiot wouldn't wear either a seatbelt or hard hat if it weren't for the inconvenience of being fined or fired. He's probably normally one of the hard eye rollers when "another God damned health and safety course" is announced. Don't need those if you are smart and have common sense. There were people flicking cigarette butts out their car windows in the evacuation lineup ffs. It sounds like a lot of people did the right thing at the right time but it also sounds like a lot of luck was involved in keeping the death toll down to 2. Hubris once again rears its ugly head. gently caress it. Burn it down and gently caress in the (toxic) ashes. Kudos to PM Selfie for declining a photo op with a smoking, charred remains backdrop. Sounds like he's clued in and/or getting and taking good advice. Last thing a disaster area needs are visiting dignitaries. Still though, I keep having this image of him, posed like the McKay F35 cartoon, shirtless, a massive double double in one hand and his Putin-esque tallywhacker in the other, pissing on the fire. Somewhere on the Internet...
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May 6, 2016 19:04
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jm20 posted:This one below is making its rounds A community populated entirely by oil workers is seeing the results of ordinary kindness done by people who all happen to be oil workers. Well stop the fuckin presses.
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May 6, 2016 19:14
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flakeloaf posted:A community populated entirely by oil workers is seeing the results of ordinary kindness done by people who all happen to be oil workers. Well stop the fuckin presses. There is something kind of unsettling about how quickly this idea of rugged-manly-individualists versus weak-wimpy-liberals has started to spread. There is a hell of a lot more identity politics playing out online these days it seems, at least compared to the tone of things between 2005-2010.
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May 6, 2016 19:22
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sitchensis posted:rugged-manly-individualists versus weak-wimpy-liberals Dunno why but I thought of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJdQfjaRAG0&t=4s except between mister hat up there and some pinko easterner caricature.
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May 6, 2016 19:25
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sitchensis posted:There is a hell of a lot more online these days it seems, at least compared to things between 2005-2010.
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The internet was really cool before everyone figured out how cool it was Maybe, too cool for its own good
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TheKingofSprings posted:The internet was really cool before everyone figured out how cool it was I'm old enough to remember the Internet back when only nerds bothered with it. Then Napster happened and everyone was clambering for free music. Napster ruined the Internet.
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sitchensis posted:There is something kind of unsettling about how quickly this idea of rugged-manly-individualists versus weak-wimpy-liberals has started to spread. There is a hell of a lot more identity politics playing out online these days it seems, at least compared to the tone of things between 2005-2010. nm Im reading the dark enlightenment thread and that basically explains it all lol
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May 6, 2016 19:52
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jm20 posted:This one below is making its rounds Yes, the Premier's time is best spent touring burnt down structures and taking photos with perople who are displaced. Notley is just damned if you do and damned if you don't in Alberta. sitchensis posted:There is something kind of unsettling about how quickly this idea of rugged-manly-individualists versus weak-wimpy-liberals has started to spread. There is a hell of a lot more identity politics playing out online these days it seems, at least compared to the tone of things between 2005-2010. A lot of it is tied up in the PC culture debate, Liberals are automatically placed in the thin-skined everything offends me side and Conversatives are thick-skinned nothing gets to me lumberjacks, but for the most part the whole PC vs. non PC thing is being fought between whiny nerds on message boards.
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EvilJoven posted:I'm old enough to remember the Internet back when only nerds bothered with it. Then Napster happened and everyone was clambering for free music. No, it was AOL causing Permanent September.
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DariusLikewise posted:but for the most part the whole PC vs. non PC thing is being fought between whiny nerds on message boards. Truly, the front lines of the culture war. Isn't /pol/ basically 99% literal nazis now?
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Subjunctive posted:No, it was AOL causing Permanent September. Yep. There's millions of them, and they're untrainable.
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Honestly as lovely as AOLers were, including IRC networks, websites and some MUDs and other games outright banning the entirety of AOL, they paled in comparison to the 'OMG music 4 free!' rush that happened in the last few years of the 20th century.
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Annual reminder that the Harper government, which lied about everything, did manage to make one totally accurate prediction:quote:Ignatieff taking job as president of Budapest’s Central European University
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May 6, 2016 20:59
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McGavin posted:The actual article is a proclick. Well worth reading. Very funny, but you might need a hazmat suit to deal with the acid levels.
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EvilJoven posted:Honestly as lovely as AOLers were, including IRC networks, websites and some MUDs and other games outright banning the entirety of AOL, they paled in comparison to the 'OMG music 4 free!' rush that happened in the last few years of the 20th century. And many of them had hi-speed right away as a result. They know not the agony and suffering of waiting minutes for a single page to finish loading. It built character.
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Helsing posted:Annual reminder that the Harper government, which lied about everything, did manage to make one totally accurate prediction: Are all the whiny retards in this thread still going to blame me for not voting for him? Of course! Edit: Posting from prepaid 4G data in Spain. Same amount I get from Bell back home for half the price. loving thieving lovely Canadian telecom companies. And don't even get me started on the cromulent price and availability of both transit and cigarettes! PT6A fucked around with this message at 21:36 on May 6, 2016 |
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sitchensis posted:There is something kind of unsettling about how quickly this idea of rugged-manly-individualists versus weak-wimpy-liberals has started to spread. There is a hell of a lot more identity politics playing out online these days it seems, at least compared to the tone of things between 2005-2010. That idea has been around for a lot longer than the last few years, at least back to the 60s and probably further back, but as a leftist myself, I can definitely see why it exists. Most of the frail urban weenies are going to end up as liberals simply because it's accepting and open-minded and (ostensibly) non-judging, and most people I've met who know their way around in rural areas / blue collar jobs are going to be the "well, don't complain, just get it done or get over it" types.
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flashman posted:It's because rural areas are filled with ignorant hicks I am counting down the seconds until the inevitable histrionics of "this is why the left loses elections!!!"
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sitchensis posted:I am counting down the seconds until the inevitable histrionics of "this is why the left loses elections!!!" The left loses elections because they are the whiny ineffectual little bitches previously mentioned. They could still follow their principles and not act like a bunch of infighting ninnies who never actually do anything (except of course when they decide to break other people's property for no reason). Edit: For example, consider these "bathroom laws". If more progressives handled these knuckle dragging morons like Zoey Tur handled Ben Shapiro, the world would be a better place, and trans people could piss wherever they prefer. PT6A fucked around with this message at 22:10 on May 6, 2016 |
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PT6A posted:Are all the whiny retards in this thread still going to blame me for not voting for him? Of course! People don't "blame" you for voting Harper, they just treat is as a big flashing warning sign about how stupid your political opinions are.
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