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Ak Gara posted:Possible stupid question: HDMI, like most modern digital connections, is both forward and backward compatible. The devices will negotiate what they're capable of and use whatever's available. You won't get any features that require newer revisions while using a mismatched setup, but it'll generally work just fine. quote:Also talking of HDMI 2.0b, when is Denon gonna come out with a 32 channel discrete amplifier? lol I've seen 9.2 (adds height channels in the front) and 11.2 (same in the rear) receivers on the market, but at this point I'm sure that's more of a checkbox feature where those outputs are shared with the multi-zone outputs some people actually use. wolrah fucked around with this message at 13:58 on May 7, 2016 |
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So can anyone give a good description as to what a founders edition is and if its worth the premium? Was going to hold onto my 980Ti until next gen but really tempted to sell it and wait a couple of months to grab a 1080 for the boost. Does that sound like a plan? I can walk into CEX here in the UK and get £300 right away this weekend if I didn' want to use ebay
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May 7, 2016 14:28
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Here I am with a 1440p Freesync monitor praying for AMD to somehow pull something out of their rear end... Or nVidia support for Freesync (doubtful)
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jisforjosh posted:Here I am with a 1440p Freesync monitor praying for AMD to somehow pull something out of their rear end... Just get a 1080 and never hit lower framerates to trigger freesync 
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I have the ROG swift G-Sync and I'm wondering what to do if I move forward with my plans in lieu of the 1080 announcement. I mean it would be kinda overkill to have a second monitor. Thats the only thing I'm wondering about now. I really, really have gotten used to the ultra smooth visuals and motion, but I know if I jump to 4k I'm going to be going back to 60hz. 2400. Without tax or shipping. Without that new 1080. Oh boy. codo27 fucked around with this message at 15:24 on May 7, 2016 |
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May 7, 2016 15:11
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KakerMix posted:Just get a 1080 and never hit lower framerates to trigger freesync I'm actually contemplating a 1080. Went from a 560 -> 670 -> 970. Sell my 970, have about $200 on an Amazon gift card, and then ready to go!
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May 7, 2016 15:36
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codo27 posted:2400. Without tax or shipping. Without that new 1080. Oh boy. You don't need a 1000W PSU to run a 90W CPU and a 180W GPU.
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May 7, 2016 15:38
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repiv posted:You don't need a 1000W PSU to run a 90W CPU and a 180W GPU. I like to leave some overhead in case I go SLI again in the future
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May 7, 2016 15:41
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codo27 posted:I like to leave some overhead in case I go SLI again in the future
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May 7, 2016 15:54
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I wonder what DisplayPort 1.2 Certified, DisplayPort 1.3/1.4 Ready means. Like they could flip the switch and support FreeSync if they wanted to, but they are not going to
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calusari posted:I wonder what DisplayPort 1.2 Certified, DisplayPort 1.3/1.4 Ready means. Probably means that the ports comply with the 1.4 standard but that the certification process is not finished or ready yet.
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May 7, 2016 15:59
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I wonder if Tom still has a job or not. 
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May 7, 2016 16:01
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ZobarStyl posted:Also, what are you really doing with 32 gb of RAM? Unless 'fuckload of Chrome tabs' or 'tons of VM's' immediately comes to mind 16 is already well above most needs. Look again
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codo27 posted:I like to leave some overhead in case I go SLI again in the future You still don't need a 1000w PSU. They make those G2s in 750w and 850w versions.
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May 7, 2016 16:07
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Why is everyone so hyped to buy the 1080? Yes, it's awesome to see such a large leap forward in performance, but I just don't see the games to play with it as opposed to a 980Ti right now, or even a 970 if you have a 1080p monitor and/or aren't constantly playing one of the like three games that benefit from the horsepower. Seems to me that would make a lot more sense to sit around and wait for the 1080Ti given the lack of demanding games out right now, unless you're one of those guys who buys a new SLI setup every 9 months.
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K8.0 posted:Why is everyone so hyped to buy the 1080? Yes, it's awesome to see such a large leap forward in performance, but I just don't see the games to play with it as opposed to a 980Ti right now. Seems to me that would make a lot more sense to sit around and wait for the 1080Ti given the lack of demanding games out right now. VR is demanding now though and you can't currently do sli with VR.
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I got a 750w and I regret it because I couldn't sli my 980ti FTW with another one. Go for 850w, or 1000w platinum.
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May 7, 2016 16:22
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codo27 posted:Look again
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KakerMix posted:VR is demanding now though and you can't currently do sli with VR.
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May 7, 2016 16:23
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wolrah posted:Whenever home users start demanding more than 8 channels. Most people still don't even use 7.1 to its fullest. Hell, I'm a single nerd so WAF isn't even remotely a factor but my 6th and 7th speakers are still boxed up from the last time I moved because using them basically gives me one way I can set up my room and have it actually work right. I had a bolt of lightning hit like a block away from my house last week that fried my cable box and the HDMI inputs on my receiver. Sucks, but it's about 6 years old, so I'm not all that miffed about upgrading to the latest and greatest. Seems like most AVR's are 7.1.2 or 9.1.2 today and I can't help but wonder what percentage of people would even be using those extra channels. Like you I have my own place but even getting 5.1 wired up and position reasonably in my living room was a real chore. Trying to add effects channels in my ceiling or multiple more side channels? Forget about that. K8.0 posted:Why is everyone so hyped to buy the 1080? Yes, it's awesome to see such a large leap forward in performance, but I just don't see the games to play with it as opposed to a 980Ti right now, or even a 970 if you have a 1080p monitor and/or aren't constantly playing one of the like three games that benefit from the horsepower. Seems to me that would make a lot more sense to sit around and wait for the 1080Ti given the lack of demanding games out right now, unless you're one of those guys who buys a new SLI setup every 9 months. I'm the type that prefers to keep my card as long as possible between upgrades. Far too lazy to sell things second hand and keep up with the market that much. 1080 might not be the specific sweet spot of price/performance vs the 1070 that I'm looking for, but if it is I'll buy it. My current card (280X) is pretty long in the tooth so I'm ready now instead of limping along until whenever the 1080TI might come along.
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KakerMix posted:VR is demanding now though and you can't currently do sli with VR. VR SLI (per-eye rendering) has been done on Maxwell and Fiji, since it's mostly a software issue. You still have to budget for the frame copy from the secondary card, which is where NVIDIA's oddly-not-NVLink bridge will help, but I have seen it work on current-gen cards with my own eyes, and give real gains. (The original work to bring it up was done with Hawaii and pre-release Fiji.) I'm interested to see if they support that mode on Maxwell with the new drivers.
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K8.0 posted:But again, VR right now is a great experience for like four hours and then... there's nothing. You can probably get those four great hours of experience a lot cheaper than 1500 bucks. The games just aren't there for the hardware yet. That, and this early VR hardware is still not that great and VR is still a gimmick. nah Subjunctive posted:VR SLI (per-eye rendering) has been done on Maxwell and Fiji, since it's mostly a software issue. You still have to budget for the frame copy from the secondary card, which is where NVIDIA's oddly-not-NVLink bridge will help, but I have seen it work on current-gen cards with my own eyes, and give real gains. (The original work to bring it up was done with Hawaii and pre-release Fiji.) Yeah I am too. I have two Titan Xs (for other SLI supported games at 3440x1440 @ 100hz so i have an excuse ok!) and it would be aces if Nvidia did support this on Maxwell because then I could just keep my current system as-is and wait for the next Titan because I am one of those people. I didn't know you've actually seen SLI per-eye rendering support right now though, give it to me please thanks.
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K8.0 posted:Why is everyone so hyped to buy the 1080? Yes, it's awesome to see such a large leap forward in performance, but I just don't see the games to play with it as opposed to a 980Ti right now, or even a 970 if you have a 1080p monitor and/or aren't constantly playing one of the like three games that benefit from the horsepower. Seems to me that would make a lot more sense to sit around and wait for the 1080Ti given the lack of demanding games out right now, unless you're one of those guys who buys a new SLI setup every 9 months.
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HMS Boromir posted:I've seen you post about this a lot and it's made me kind of curious - what exactly is it that's chaining you to the tiny boy graphics card form factor? Is it a PCIe slot spacing + other AICs blocking the way issue? Weird case?
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Subjunctive posted:I'm interested to see if they support that mode on Maxwell with the new drivers. Didn't they ship that ages ago? This random guy is playing with the VR SLI sample on a pair of 770s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuOV-xz0GFc
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K8.0 posted:Why is everyone so hyped to buy the 1080? Yes, it's awesome to see such a large leap forward in performance, but I just don't see the games to play with it as opposed to a 980Ti right now, or even a 970 if you have a 1080p monitor and/or aren't constantly playing one of the like three games that benefit from the horsepower. Seems to me that would make a lot more sense to sit around and wait for the 1080Ti given the lack of demanding games out right now, unless you're one of those guys who buys a new SLI setup every 9 months. There are plenty of people with 3440x1440 monitors, 2560x1440 monitors with high refresh rates and even 1920x1080 monitors with high refresh rates without a card that can push newer games at 100-150 FPS, there are also people with ultrawide or high refresh monitors that currently use an SLI or CF setup but want the ability to move back to a single card to avoid all the issues SLI/CF can come with. Hell, I'm only on 1920x1200 at 60Hz with a 970 and I regularly see games dipping below 60 if I turn everything up to max, I'd like to see it never go under 60 even with everything turned way up so the 1070 looks really good to me right now.
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I'm running an ultrawide off a 290 and I'm halfway to wanting a new card, but I'm holding out for big Vega because that should be roughly the same time as big Pascal and supports Freesync. I'm running modern pretty games at ~45 Hz and using Freesync to make up the difference so I really want the big card. Also I want money now to get my eyes shot with lasers.Paul MaudDib posted:Interesting point though - the 1080 will barely match the Fury X in GFLOPS. It does so at a significantly lower TDP, but in terms of raw performance output it's not keeping up given that it's supposed to be a next-gen chip. This implies that the DP/compute performance did indeed sap the SP performance, which may mean that a decently-sized Polaris can keep up or beat it, and/or that the AMD Value Train doesn't have brakes in this generation either. Remember how the Fury X beat the 980 Ti in manufacturer benchmarks? Manufacturer claims are best case until proven otherwise. xthetenth fucked around with this message at 16:56 on May 7, 2016 |
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K8.0 posted:But again, VR right now is a great experience for like four hours and then... there's nothing. You can probably get those four great hours of experience a lot cheaper than 1500 bucks. The games just aren't there for the hardware yet. That, and this early VR hardware is still not that great and VR is still a gimmick. There's more VR games due out over time and 1440p ultrawide is a thing also. If you don't need either of those then enjoy a 1070 or firesale 9x0 for flawless 1080p 144hz with everything cranked up for the foreseeable future. Even if you don't have them now like me, it's good they're launching those cards now because by the time I've saved for a Vive or 34" 120Hz display then AMD might be putting up enough competition for the 1080 to drop in price. Also there are several early access voxel sandbox titles that are hitting the limits of 4GB vram and 16GB system ram when you max out everything or run an infinitely scaling, random gen, world for multiplayer.
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repiv posted:Didn't they ship that ages ago? This random guy is playing with the VR SLI sample on a pair of 770s: I'd understood there to be newer pieces related to scheduling, but maybe not. That's promising!
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So going through the slides I didn't see any obvious references to DX12/async - was it confirmed during the event?
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ZobarStyl posted:So going through the slides I didn't see any obvious references to DX12/async - was it confirmed during the event? They specifically mentioned async in the press release: http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/a-quantum-leap-in-gaming:-nvidia-introduces-geforce-gtx-1080 But then again they specifically mentioned it with regard to Maxwell too 
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Thunderbolt 3 can't come out soon enough on Macs so I can grab a Razer Core and GTX 1080 to finally ditch the need for another PC and get myself down to just a laptop and server for the first time in like... 12 years. Also, I just realized something terrifying - what will be the Titan X of the Pascal generation then if this release for Pascal has performance numbers like this? Is it even possible to release a Titan series that makes any sense anymore given that nVidia is on a new process and architecture and doesn't really need to extend the life of a process node or archaic architecture?
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repiv posted:They specifically mentioned async in the press release: http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/a-quantum-leap-in-gaming:-nvidia-introduces-geforce-gtx-1080 I'm torn between wanting new uarch's and being burned by misbegotten attempts to 'future-proof' a card. I vividly remember the buckets of ink and blood spilled by fanboys during the DX9.0b vs 9.0c days.
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Zotac: http://videocardz.com/59674/zotac-releases-its-geforce-gtx-1080 https://www.zotac.com/gb/product/graphics_card/geforce-gtx-1080
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necrobobsledder posted:Thunderbolt 3 can't come out soon enough on Macs so I can grab a Razer Core and GTX 1080 to finally ditch the need for another PC and get myself down to just a laptop and server for the first time in like... 12 years. The GP104 GPU used for the 1080 and 1070 is a mid-sized die part using GDDR5X. There will probably be a large die part coming later on with HBM2 that will be a 1080Ti or Titan. Since yields for the big die parts on the new process are low at this time and the 1080/1070 offer great performance for the time being it will probably be quite a long time before the 1080Ti/Titan part is released, likely sometime in 2017.
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wolrah posted:Depends on what you mean by enjoy the new one. I run my monitor at 3264x1836 @ 60 fps via dvi. If I swapped to a GTX 1080, would the HDMI out from that, plugged into the HDMI in on the monitor work?
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Ak Gara posted:I run my monitor at 3264x1836 @ 60 fps via dvi. If I swapped to a GTX 1080, would the HDMI out from that, plugged into the HDMI in on the monitor work? Depends if the monitor supports HDMI 2.0. Older versions maxed out at 1920x1080, unless you dropped to 24/30hz.
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