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Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer
The oil facilities are in no danger anyway since they all have massive cleared firebreaks and dedicated firefighting crews

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Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Leofish posted:

Saw this today.



Trudeau looking down from heaven approvingly at the orderly evacuation of Fort Mac? Noice.

Now I wonder why that fat oval office Nenshi is getting out of this without any blame.

Cultural Imperial posted:

are you like the dumbest person in finance? how do you even make money with a religious adherence to stupid ideology like that? that would explain why you can only get work in calgary instead of some place where you can actually make real money like nyc, london or conneticut

There's plenty of room for hollow yes-men in every industry.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

Tighclops posted:

The oil facilities are in no danger anyway since they all have massive cleared firebreaks and dedicated firefighting crews

and their +50 WHMIS talismans

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely

Cultural Imperial posted:



imo this is the real tragedy of the wild fires. all those mines are nowhere near the flames

when it comes right down to it, I think that the damage was actually much less than it could have been. The most heavily populated areas (Timberlea, Thickwood, and the Downtown) only had light damage for the most part. If the fire is now to the south and east of the city the firefighters have pretty much won the battle.

Lars Blitzer
Aug 17, 2004

He drinks a Whiskey drink, he drinks a Vodka drink
He drinks a Lager drink, he drinks a Cider drink...


Dick Tracy's number one fan.

Cultural Imperial posted:

and their +50 WHMIS talismans

Talismans? No, you've got it wrong: they Necklace/Amulet slot is reserved for their ID Lanyard of Camp Access. The WHMIS is instead slotted into their hardhats as a sticker.

Pixelante
Mar 16, 2006

You people will by God act like a team, or at least like people who know each other, or I'll incinerate the bunch of you here and now.
:mmmsmug:

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namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

don't forget somalia. the cf do good work

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

Cultural Imperial posted:

don't forget somalia. the cf do good work

We forgot to bill them for the emotional trauma the Somalis inflicted on our poor, defenseless paratroopers.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/donald-trump-calls-nafta-disaster-at-rally-15-min-south-of-b-c-border-1.3572100

quote:

Donald Trump held a rally minutes away from B.C.'s border on Saturday where he touched on lumber and international trade.

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee hosted a 3 p.m. PT rally in Lynden, Wash. — a city less than 15 minutes south of Aldergrove, B.C. Earlier in the day, at noon, he held another event in Spokane, Wash.

During his 45 minute speech in Lynden, he meandered from topic to topic — from his love of his evangelical supporters to attacking Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton by calling her "crooked."

He called NAFTA "one of the great economic disasters" that's "destroyed" the U.S., a message he first shared back in September 2015.


social justice warriors, you have a friend in donald trump

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
As an ardent Trump 2016 supporter, his views on NAFTA only make me harder.

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

I guess since we've been invading Iraq and Afghanistan for 15 years and killing their civilians, they owe us.

Excelsiortothemax
Sep 9, 2006
What would happen if Trump actually got elected and removed NAFTA?

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
canada will enter a new golden age unionized manufacturing. agriculture will thrive again. finally, we can ban gmos and price all prescription drugs at whatever we feel like. basically canada will become a communist paradise because we have broken the american chains, constraining the glorious people's republic of canada

also, free weed

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug
Well it certainly couldn't hurt us any worse than NAFTA has

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

Yeah and every time you squawk about the real estate bubble you've got a friends over at mises.org.

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

He's backed away from building a U.S./Canada wall. I am disappoint.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Excelsiortothemax posted:

What would happen if Trump actually got elected and removed NAFTA?

Spoiler: he won't actually do it. He is lying :ssh:

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 06:10 on May 8, 2016

MechanicalTomPetty
Oct 30, 2011

Runnin' down a dream
That never would come to me
Apparently people have taken to calling the fort McMurry fire "The Beast" which I'm mentioning here because that is a rad loving name for a forest fire.

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

MechanicalTomPetty posted:

Apparently people have taken to calling the fort McMurry fire "The Beast" which I'm mentioning here because that is a rad loving name for a forest fire.

Just don't stab it with your steely knives.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Where's my goddamn pink champagne

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

MA-Horus posted:

Where's my goddamn pink champagne

All the ice melted.

What with the massive fire and all.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Leofish posted:

Do you have any links to the Haitian and African stuff, if true? Or was that a joke like, "oh they should help now, the ingrates" kind of thing you saw? I saw the stuff about Syrian refugees in Calgary gathering donations earlier this week.

It was dumb, angry racists pointing out that Africa and Haiti are not sending hundreds of thousands of dollars in aid for Alberta (because they are very dumb)

Edit: I'm pretty sure that's it at the top of the page

Professor Shark fucked around with this message at 15:10 on May 8, 2016

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
I bet there are Haitian citizens and citizens of many African countries helping out, just as Syrian refugees are helping. There are many Africans and Haitians in Canada, and I would assume they are participating in charity at a roughly equal rate to Canadians. Or possibly more, since they tend to be religious and the emphasis on charity is pretty much the only part of Abrahamic faiths I don't find repellent.

If people are asking why those governments aren't sending aid, perhaps they need to ask their caretakers because I refuse to believe anyone that stupid can actually live independently.

PT6A fucked around with this message at 15:24 on May 8, 2016

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Hatians in Haiti aren't sending money because they don't have any because when the Hatian government tried to boost the minimum wage in that country Hillary Clinton threatened them with all sorts of bullshit until they dropped the idea.

EvilJoven fucked around with this message at 15:35 on May 8, 2016

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

PT6A posted:

If people are asking why those governments aren't sending aid, perhaps they need to ask their caretakers because I refuse to believe anyone that stupid can actually live independently.

Those people don't actually care that other world leaders aren't sending aid money, they're just mad that Canadian leaders help out other countries. Something, something, tax dollars, handouts, etc.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

EvilJoven posted:

Hatians in Haiti aren't sending money because they don't have any because when the Hatian government tried to boost the minimum wage in that country Hillary Clinton threatened them with all sorts of bullshit until they dropped the idea.

First I've heard of it.

quote:

So it's true that the State Department (then led by Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State) strongly opposed a minimum wage increase in Haiti in 2009. However, the State Department's efforts did not occur in a political or economic vacuum, and Clinton wasn't the sole architect of efforts to quash a minimum wage hike (as the meme suggests). It was a concerted effort on the part of Haitian elites, factory owners, free trade proponents, U.S. politicians, economists, and American companies that kept the minimum wage so low, and to lay the blame squarely at the feet of any sitting Secretary of State would be an incomplete assessment, and thus inaccurate.

A law establishing a new minimum wage of $5.11 per workday ($0.64 an hour) was finally approved in 2014, which still fell far short of both the demanded raise by workers (to the equivalent of $11.36 per workday, or $1.42 per hour) and the recommended daily wage of $22.86.

burn down all western nations

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

flakeloaf posted:

First I've heard of it.


burn down all western nations

:stare:

I thought EvilJoven was just bullshitting so I didn't bother Googling it.

Slavery now, slavery yesterday, slavery forever.

Arabian Jesus
Feb 15, 2008

We've got the American Jesus
Bolstering national faith

We've got the American Jesus
Overwhelming millions every day


Vice posted:

Russia Has Made a Questionably Sincere Offer to Help Put Out Canada's Forest Fires

By Justin Ling
May 7, 2016 |

It's hard to tell whether it's a legitimate offer, or a snide geopolitical belittling of one of its fiercest critics, but Moscow has extended an offer to Ottawa to help battle the raging forest fires in Fort McMurray which have displaced more than 80,000.

In a statement released Thursday, Russian Minister Vladimir Puchkov offered to "immediately" send emergency aircraft to help battle the blazes that have spread through Alberta's north throughout the week.

But considering the frosty state of relations between the two nations, it's unclear whether that was a legitimate olive branch or simply another Russian propaganda effort. Or, perhaps even more likely, a combination of both.

Puchkov said Russian air force is prepared to send Ilyushin Il-76 strategic transport planes — which the statement says can carry 42 tonnes of fire retardant material — as well as "Russian rescuers and specialists with necessary equipment to fight fires in Canada and organize ground support for aircrafts."

The statement, posted in English, appears roughly translated.

The statement says the offer was made directly via "telegram" to Ottawa, although the original statement — which has since been corrected — lists the wrong minister. It said the communique had been sent to Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness Minister Steven Blaney, who lost his job last October, not Ralph Goodale, who is the current minister.

A spokesperson for Goodale confirmed that the letter was received last week, and told VICE News that — thus far — Russia is the only country to reach out.

"The Government of Canada does have a mechanism in place for mutual firefighting support with other nations, including some specific agreements," the spokesperson said in an email. "Canada does not have a formal arrangement with Russia for this purpose.

"We will review the offer received from the Russian Federation and will respond to them in due course."

As one Russian official pointed out, similar aid offers were made to Haiti following its devastating 2010 earthquake and to Bosnia and Serbia after flooding there in 2014, as well as a range of other disasters worldwide.

But Russian aid to North America and Western Europe is somewhat more uncommon. Several Il-76 did land in the United States as part of an aid effort mobilized following Hurricane Katrina.

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
The US pulls that sorts of poo poo all the time in Latin America and no one really bats an eye.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
The only caveat is that Putin flies the planes himself and then gets to teabag Trudeau in a photo op afterwards.


flakeloaf posted:

First I've heard of it.


burn down all western nations

Trump is an idiot, Hilary is the embodiment of pure evil, what's worse :shrug:


In other news, Lyft and Uber are both leaving San Antonio after voters decided that they needed fingerprint background checks. I hope both of these whiny companies burn themselves to the ground trying to fight regulations with donations.

http://qz.com/678389/uber-and-lyft-have-finally-lost-a-game-of-political-hardball/

quote:

Uber and Lyft spent nearly $9 million on a May 7 special election in Austin, Texas. They offered free rides to the polls, and texted users asking for their support. They pulled out all the stops in a political playbook that has worked in almost every other city in the US.
For once, it wasn’t enough.

Voters in the Texan capital came out against Proposition 1, upholding ride-hailing regulations that the city council passed in December. The rules are stricter than ones that Uber and Lyft face in other jurisdictions: They require drivers for the services to pass fingerprint-based background checks, to identify their cars with company emblems, and to avoid picking up and dropping off passengers in certain lanes.

Though this was one election in one city, it’s hard to overstate the significance of the outcome. Uber and Lyft have never shied from political hardball when it comes to getting their preferred rules on the books, and over the course of 2015, nearly two dozen states passed ride-hailing laws that Uber supported. The companies have come out on top after fraught political battles in Seattle, Las Vegas, New York, and San Antonio, to name just a few.

“Uber, I think decided, they were going to make Austin an example to the nation,” said David Butts, a local political consultant who helped coordinate the campaign against Proposition 1, according to a report in the Austin American-Statesman. “And Austin made Uber an example to the nation.”

Ahead of the vote, both Uber and Lyft had threatened to leave Austin should the proposition fail. Austin mayor Steve Adler invited them to stay despite the election results.

Neither Uber nor Lyft immediately responded to a request for comment.

The nay vote on Proposition 1 is all the more crushing for Uber and Lyft considering the lopsided amount of money they spent in favor of it. The companies invested a combined $8.7 million to support the proposition via their lobbying committee, Ridesharing Works for Austin, an unprecedented sum in Austin local politics. That dwarfed the $132,000 that Proposition 1’s opponents strung together from about 500 individual contributions, according to campaign finance filings.

Uber and Lyft claim that fingerprint-based background checks make ride-hailing services untenable. It’s unclear whether that’s actually the case. Uber, notably, has operated in Houston, the largest city in Texas, for over a year and a half despite the fact that fingerprinting there is mandatory. Earlier this week, the company threatened to leave Houston if the city’s regulations aren’t overhauled. It pulled out of another Texas city, Corpus Christi, in March after policymakers there adopted fingerprinting requirements for ride-hailing services.

Uber and Lyft have cultivated the impression that their services are indispensable to cities. But Uber in particular has also spun itself as politically unbeatable. It has the money; it has the policy talent; it has the app that makes reaching potential voters as simple as sending a text or push notification to their phones.

“Nearly every time we try to set up shop in a new city, there’s a powerful industry with powerful allies who try to stop progress,” Uber CEO Travis Kalanick remarked on the company’s five-year anniversary last June. “The only reason they haven’t succeeded is because of you. It’s because there’s always a handful of Uber riders and drivers who decide to stand up and speak out and petition City Hall. And then they’re joined by a few more. And then a few more. And pretty soon, an entire community of people is fighting for a new way of doing things that makes their lives a little easier.”

That’s a potent narrative. With the loss in Austin, it’s starting to come undone.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Whatever the situation is between two countries, if one makes a genuine offer of useful humanitarian aid, refusing it because you don't like the other guy seems stupid to me, but I'm a shameless opportunist.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Sorry for letting that cat out if the bag. I bet a lot of you would be happier if you didn't know such things.

I know I would be.

Kindest Forums User
Mar 25, 2008

Let me tell you about my opinion about Bernie Sanders and why Donald Trump is his true successor.

You cannot vote Hillary Clinton because she is worse than Trump.
Canadian discourse: Not okay to discuss the cause of a disaster, okay to criticize the help being offered

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

EvilJoven posted:

Sorry for letting that cat out if the bag. I bet a lot of you would be happier if you didn't know such things.

I know I would be.

There's always more, and it's always worse. As someone noted upstream this sort of thing is de rigueur for Central and South America. Just seems particularly egregious in a basket case like Haiti whose main problem is continuing to be punished for having uppity ancestors who objected violently to slavery.

I guess it's like our previous government; I'd prefer to keep the feeling in the back of my mind that my cartoonish fantasies about them are my own invention. But then Polllievre/Gallant/Anders/ et al have to go and open their mouths again and confirm that yes, they are that dumb and evil.

gently caress it. Trump 2016 - Why Stop At Fort Mac?

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
I guess I'm more naive than I thought because I'm surprised that someone here was skeptical when told that Hilary Clinton took active steps to stop Haiti from raising it's minimum wage. How the hell do you pay any attention to politics at all and then find that even slightly surprising or hard to believe?

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
because this thread is full of wide eyed Naomi Klein no logo model un ignoramuses

420 smoke democracy every day

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

I didn't realize Berniebros were a thing in Canada.

sitchensis
Mar 4, 2009

Helsing posted:

I guess I'm more naive than I thought because I'm surprised that someone here was skeptical when told that Hilary Clinton took active steps to stop Haiti from raising it's minimum wage. How the hell do you pay any attention to politics at all and then find that even slightly surprising or hard to believe?

no you see, if they had raised hte minimum wage then all the jobs would have gone to another impoverished nation mired in poverty! you don't want to lose jobs, do you?

Pixelante
Mar 16, 2006

You people will by God act like a team, or at least like people who know each other, or I'll incinerate the bunch of you here and now.
The fire is bad, but it's not enough of a problem for Canada to throw all of its resources at, much less ask for international help. Mexico sent about 60 firefighters up, but IIRC that was an established partnership, not a pity-gently caress. Russia is probably just scoring free PR points in a situation that's unlikely to cost them a cent. The expensive part is going to be rebuilding.

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Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
It's a pity we're so entrenched into a situation where Governments have become captive to the demands of capital in this era. It'd be really rad to see the USA roll in and establish a hegemony stretching from the Arctic to the Antarctic, or even just the Panama, because no nation would earnestly try to stop them.

Unfortunately this would mean corporate interests losing access to a massive number of slave-states, so it will never happen. :colbert:

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