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Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

In the days before BBSes, we had this book:



which was a catalog of shareware floppy disks, and then I guess dad sent off a form to them and they posted back some floppies like this in exchange for a nominal fee:



I probably have a bunch of these somewhere including the game Willy the Worm, did anyone else play that? It was a platformer, but it was monochrome with pretty basic graphics, but I think it was fun.

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a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Gary’s Answer

a happy snowman posted:

Also, Twitter isn't a social network, it's a *broadcast* medium. It's great for breaking news, curating 'listening posts' to get great examples of different points of view delivered to you, and in general, finding good stuff.

Thanks for the input lowtax

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


a happy snowman posted:

I dunno, I'm an expat and FB is allowing me to keep friendships alive pretty easily. When I went back home for a visit, I had plans set up for half the time I was there in just a few minutes of messaging. And, the entire reason I became an expat is through friends I met on a forum (not this one).

Also, Twitter isn't a social network, it's a *broadcast* medium. It's great for breaking news, curating 'listening posts' to get great examples of different points of view delivered to you, and in general, finding good stuff. It's also great for finding worthless poo poo because Sturgeon's law, so it takes a bit of work.

You might just be bad at life. Or twenty and whining about being 'an old, old soul' to us real old fucks who are trying hard not to laugh.
What I don't like is that now it's expected that you bring your dumb high school friends with you into eternity. People are supposed to grow apart naturally. They're not supposed to continue to feign interest forever.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Buttcoin purse posted:

In the days before BBSes, we had this book:



which was a catalog of shareware floppy disks, and then I guess dad sent off a form to them and they posted back some floppies like this in exchange for a nominal fee:



I probably have a bunch of these somewhere including the game Willy the Worm, did anyone else play that? It was a platformer, but it was monochrome with pretty basic graphics, but I think it was fun.

These are the ones libraries here used to have when I was a kid. PC Hack (Nethack? The gently caress is that?) and Adventure were the only good ones.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

Germstore posted:

I can't SMS a fart, but thanks to tupperware and the finest drat postal service on the planet, I can snail mail a fart.

You might not be able to SMS one, but thanks to recent versions of iOS, you can record one and instantly message it to a brother of your choosing. Ask me how I know.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Weatherman posted:

You might not be able to SMS one, but thanks to recent versions of iOS, you can record one and instantly message it to a brother of your choosing. Ask me how I know.

If various studies are true - just give someone your phone, the amount of fecal matter on it should be a good enough analog for fart palming.

LethalGeek
Nov 4, 2009

8 track betamax posted:

Hey maybe there is a reason literally everyone around the world, regardless of age, ethnicity, culture, and creed complain about how everybody got they noses glued to a telephone screen. Maybe there is something about that we find repellent, in how it is fundamentally altering the way we communicate with each other. Maybe people find these changes unpleasant and undesirable.....but we can't change it, we are being swallowed up in the gaping maw of change and we ourselves are part-and-parcel of this very change. Maybe... just maybe.. the world isn't the better for being able to instantly google image search a picture of rasputin's weird penis or being able to play anger birds or watch a movie or whatever.
Sorry you got old

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
The technoslavery I imagine is a world where everyone is dependent on augmented/virtual reality and has an even worse understanding of how anything works.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Weatherman posted:

You might not be able to SMS one, but thanks to recent versions of iOS, you can record one and instantly message it to a brother of your choosing. Ask me how I know.

A dude at work recorded himself farting seven times in a row and sent it to everyone via Bluetooth and I had it as my SMS tone for years.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Jerry Cotton posted:

A dude at work recorded himself farting seven times in a row and sent it to everyone via Bluetooth and I had it as my SMS tone for years.

This reminds me of the "me farting on demand" episode of Nathan For You

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

Buttcoin purse posted:


Nice, but I'm not getting my hopes up until you say you can get to something you couldn't get to before, like the keywords or whatever type of file areas someone mentioned where they could get Duke Nukem 3D maps.

I apologize it took me so long to reply. I was doing the AOL stuff for hours and hours but unfortunately LESS things worked on 4.0 somehow (it would cause it to crash a lot). I plan on using my friends old Win98 laptop with your script and trying it on that someday.

What I was looking for mostly was the file areas:



Unfortunately that screenshot was from late 2013 and it was the last time I have been ever able to access it. :(

Thanks for your amazing Python script though! It was fascinating just knowing how it works.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

I apologize it took me so long to reply. I was doing the AOL stuff for hours and hours but unfortunately LESS things worked on 4.0 somehow (it would cause it to crash a lot). I plan on using my friends old Win98 laptop with your script and trying it on that someday.

What I was looking for mostly was the file areas:



Unfortunately that screenshot was from late 2013 and it was the last time I have been ever able to access it. :(

Thanks for your amazing Python script though! It was fascinating just knowing how it works.

Tell me how to get to that area and I'll see if the Mac version I'm using works. I was able to see a surprising amount of stuff with it.

Harveygod
Jan 4, 2014

YEEAAH HEH HEH HEEEHH

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN

THIS TRASH WAR AIN'T GONNA SOLVE ITSELF YA KNOW
I was looking at math stuff and one of my results was some forum entry from 1995 answering someone's "first E-mail message on the Internet."

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

I apologize it took me so long to reply.

:f5h::smithicide: Oh cool so you're not in custody then :v:

quote:

I was doing the AOL stuff for hours and hours but unfortunately LESS things worked on 4.0 somehow (it would cause it to crash a lot).

I kinda figured it might crash since we're probably making things confused. 5.0 might be slightly less likely to crash since it's closer to the 6.0 it's pretending to be.

quote:



Unfortunately that screenshot was from late 2013 and it was the last time I have been ever able to access it. :(

Self Portrait As A Cat? Some things just aren't worth hacking for :v:

Astrobastard
Dec 31, 2008



Winky Face

Jerry Cotton posted:

A dude at work recorded himself farting seven times in a row and sent it to everyone via Bluetooth and I had it as my SMS tone for years.

There's an app called Fartdroid that uses your phone's accelerometer to play back farts you've recorded (or downloaded) everytime you lift and cock your leg. It owns

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Jerry Cotton posted:

These are the ones libraries here used to have when I was a kid. PC Hack (Nethack? The gently caress is that?) and Adventure were the only good ones.

I downloaded the PC-SIG CD-ROM from archive.org here: https://archive.org/download/PC-SIG_Library_12th_Edition_1993 It has a DOS-based graphical hypertext tool for browsing the disks. Disk 0055 has this GW-BASIC lunar lander game:



I think I had a better one back in the day - something that ran on our Hercules graphics so it was black and white, but higher res - but this will do! It's no Astro Chicken though :v:

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

I went through all the screenshots on the above PC-SIG CD-ROM and saw a few things I remembered from the olden days.

drat you imgur.com for not supporting .PCX files :argh:

LIST.COM (screenshot being viewed in the PC-SIG hypertext reader):



and here's the description in the hypertext reader:



I can even scroll right? Oh boy! This program was pretty great though, I used it all the time for viewing text files and browsing around directories.

I don't know if I ever used this particular program to do it, but setting your clock via modem was pretty cool:



Also, trivia/:spergin:: the image I linked to has a ".iso" file but it's not really an ISO 9660 image, it's in the older High Sierra format.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

I'd forgotten about List but it really was the bee's pajamas.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Jerry Cotton posted:

I'd forgotten about List but it really was the bee's pajamas.

I used to use it to look at hex dumps of game data files and try to figure out if I could hack things, I think I managed to work out how to hack a few save game formats to give myself more money and stuff.

I also hacked LIST itself because it didn't want you to be able to view stuff on network drives unless you registered it, but it was pretty easy to find the "is this a network drive" check in the disassembly in McAfee ProView and NOP it out. I was a kid with no money at the time, and I can't make up for my crime by registering it now because the guy who wrote it died a few years ago :rip:

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Buttcoin purse posted:

I used to use it to look at hex dumps of game data files and try to figure out if I could hack things, I think I managed to work out how to hack a few save game formats to give myself more money and stuff.

The thing I remember vaguely was using a hex editor to find the code for the count down timer for that triggered the end of the GTA1 demo so I unlimited time.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
GTA 3 was my first real first foray into modding. You could use a hex editor to change some of the text in the world. You could also use notepad to edit the map.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I would guess that a large number of people were first introduced to modding/hex editing through Game Genie. When i first realized what it was actually doing and was able to modify stock codes myself (IIRC my first 2 were figuring out how to change the X value for both the "start with X lives" and "jump X height" codes for Super Mario Bros.)

RPGs are great fodder for Game Genie/hex edits; I remember doing some pretty absurd stuff in Final Fantasy VI (beyond just stat mods/items, crazy poo poo like changing encounter rates, character sprites, etc.) There was a Final Fantasy Tactics save editor too, and the game simply did not know how to react when you put the final boss of the game in your party for the first mission (mostly because that boss takes up several spaces on the battlefield instead of just 1 like all other characters). Messing around with that editor made me appreciate the time that went into the game, since 90% of the enemy characters are fully playable when modded into your party, with unique jobs, abilities, dialogue, etc. I know the nature of the game meant that those things had to be programmed in anyway, but it was still kind of cool.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.
My first (and I think to this day only?) use of hex editing was for Eye of the Beholder 2.

I had the game in the mid/late 90's, but got very stuck. I tried to find a guide online (good lord was searching lovely back then...) and I dsid find one, but it was terrible. It glossed over HUGE parts. It was like
1) From the starting forest, go into the castle.
2) From there, go down to the basement. Get the 4 horns.
3) Once you're in the Slime Level, do XYZ.

Well, where the gently caress was the entrance to the Slime level!? I never did find that...probably some secret door I never found.

But I did find a guide to using a hex editor to change the items in your inventory, so I gave myself the keys I needed, but it only worked so much. At some point, it invariably got messed up and switched a lot of my items over to some garbage items, including ones I never edited in the first place.

Edit: Ha, no lie, I think this was the exact walkthrough I was trying to use in high school: http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/564792-eye-of-the-beholder-ii-the-legend-of-darkmoon/faqs/2002

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde

DrBouvenstein posted:

My first (and I think to this day only?) use of hex editing was for Eye of the Beholder 2.

I had the game in the mid/late 90's, but got very stuck. I tried to find a guide online (good lord was searching lovely back then...) and I dsid find one, but it was terrible. It glossed over HUGE parts. It was like
1) From the starting forest, go into the castle.
2) From there, go down to the basement. Get the 4 horns.
3) Once you're in the Slime Level, do XYZ.

Well, where the gently caress was the entrance to the Slime level!? I never did find that...probably some secret door I never found.

But I did find a guide to using a hex editor to change the items in your inventory, so I gave myself the keys I needed, but it only worked so much. At some point, it invariably got messed up and switched a lot of my items over to some garbage items, including ones I never edited in the first place.

Edit: Ha, no lie, I think this was the exact walkthrough I was trying to use in high school: http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/564792-eye-of-the-beholder-ii-the-legend-of-darkmoon/faqs/2002

lol at this super detailed explanation:

Frost Giant Level

This level is quite small. Combat is tough.

Talon's tongue : You'll find it soon or later.

Portal : This is near the Talon's tongue. Use the stone dagger
to get out of this level.

Pits : Watch carefully. If you fall, you'll be a few level down.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Humphreys posted:

If various studies are true - just give someone your phone, the amount of fecal matter on it should be a good enough analog for fart palming.

what the hell doesn't have fecal matter on it?

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
I can attribute my career path to realizing the structure of gameshark codes in 7th grade and making 50 line codes to make the characters dialog in goldeneye be all full of swears

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

Regular Nintendo posted:

I can attribute my career path to realizing the structure of gameshark codes in 7th grade and making 50 line codes to make the characters dialog in goldeneye be all full of swears

That is a p good intro actually

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
i got into modding when i finally convinced my dad to order this level builder for dark forces the original one it was reallly simple then when the next game came out in full 3d i got discouraged because designing maps was a lot more involved

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

I apologize it took me so long to reply. I was doing the AOL stuff for hours and hours but unfortunately LESS things worked on 4.0 somehow (it would cause it to crash a lot). I plan on using my friends old Win98 laptop with your script and trying it on that someday.

What I was looking for mostly was the file areas:



Unfortunately that screenshot was from late 2013 and it was the last time I have been ever able to access it. :(

Thanks for your amazing Python script though! It was fascinating just knowing how it works.

Bitmap format.

1.4MB

Time to download at 45kbps: 8 minutes

Those were dark, dark days.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

I didn't have a Game Genie or anything like that but on my PC I used this program with the highly creative name "gametools", which was a TSR that let you search RAM to find a value that had gone up or down since the last time you popped it up, so you could find out where health or ammo was stored:



I didn't always manage to achieve what I wanted but it did work for me sometimes!

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

I remember using a trainer for Roller Coaster Tycoon and hitting the "add a fuckton of money" key over and over again until the game crashed because of an overflow error or something

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Three-Phase posted:

Bitmap format.

1.4MB

Time to download at 45kbps: 8 minutes

Those were dark, dark days.

My antique phone lines in CO would be lucky to pull down 3 KB/sec back then. :(

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

Bovril Delight posted:

My antique phone lines in CO would be lucky to pull down 3 KB/sec back then. :(

Same. The joys of living in rural Newfoundland! Never experienced anything faster than 10KB/s until I went to university

...in late 2005 :haw:

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
speaking of old poo poo, Shadow Warrior (the build one) is free on steam this weekend so get some WANG y'all

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


drunk asian neighbor posted:

I would guess that a large number of people were first introduced to modding/hex editing through Game Genie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCvIZ80RIhE&t=38s

EDIT: and some examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdBABpUd0xc

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 05:00 on May 14, 2016

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Mak0rz posted:

I remember using a trainer for Roller Coaster Tycoon and hitting the "add a fuckton of money" key over and over again until the game crashed because of an overflow error or something

lol yes I forgot about those experiences


:eyepop: nice!

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

speaking of old poo poo, Shadow Warrior (the build one) is free on steam this weekend so get some WANG y'all

Thanks, I never played it, but the price is right! Yes, I did at least play Duke 3D excessively.

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

speaking of old poo poo, Shadow Warrior (the build one) is free on steam this weekend so get some WANG y'all

It's free indefinitely. Downloaded it myself like two weeks ago to play some user maps.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


laserghost posted:

It's free indefinitely. Downloaded it myself like two weeks ago to play some user maps.

poo poo, I still have the CD-ROM of that game :/

My dad thought it was more appropriate than Tomb Raider!

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thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

Buttcoin purse posted:

I didn't have a Game Genie or anything like that but on my PC I used this program with the highly creative name "gametools", which was a TSR that let you search RAM to find a value that had gone up or down since the last time you popped it up, so you could find out where health or ammo was stored:



I didn't always manage to achieve what I wanted but it did work for me sometimes!

i remember game genie never working ever and i think i also had a similar thing for snes that was just as bad. was that like a hex editor or what specifically anyone kno?

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