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mojo1701a posted:In other words, conservative media has a narrative continuity shorter than that of professional wrestling. The next storyline is Trump turns face and saves the Republican Party from itself. Obama then reveals himself as the modern day reincarnation of D-Generation X and then fights Trump in Hell in the Cell.
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There was a whole lot of "respect the station of the presidency" and "support the troops" because no one liked thinking critically about that whole "why are we in Iraq anyway" situation.
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Vargatron posted:The next storyline is Trump turns face and saves the Republican Party from itself. Obama then reveals himself as the modern day reincarnation of D-Generation X and then fights Trump in Hell in the Cell. I don't even watch rasslin' but I'd watch the hell out of that.
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It remains hilarious that all this happened within recent memory of the "Wag the Dog" bullshit campaign against Clinton.
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Levantine posted:I'll never get tired of the unearned self importance of right wing bloggers. I mean, they're bloggers. It's not like Crowder is a proper journalist. He's not dodging gunfire in the Middle East to get a story or anything. He sits in comfort at home thinking up lame burns (unless he's getting punched out by old men at union rallies and lying about it). I imagine a Galt's Gulch where it's just a bunch of right wing bloggers since listening to them they are the most important people in society unlike the scum that makes them food, cleans up their garbage, or otherwise makes sure they don't die .
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Alex Jones describes Hillary... dear God. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmpCF55IaMA&t=721s edit: LOL, LOOK AT THIS loving AD PLAYED AFTER THAT VIDEO!!!! Movie: Amerigeddon Synopsis: America is being destroyed by it's government. Martial Law, arms confiscation, not having enough food, evil dudes.... "I'm just so afraid of the world you're going to have to grow up in." AN OLD LADY LITERALLY SAYS BOOTSTRAPS!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdDHDh0s_BQ Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 14:43 on May 9, 2016 |
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May 9, 2016 14:37
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Radish posted:I imagine a Galt's Gulch where it's just a bunch of right wing bloggers since listening to them they are the most important people in society unlike the scum that makes them food, cleans up their garbage, or otherwise makes sure they don't die . Did they ever explain how galt's gulch functioned with just a bunch of former CEOs that apparently made the world function by pure force of will/personality? Or is that place now just a loving landfill?
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Rick_Hunter posted:Did they ever explain how galt's gulch functioned with just a bunch of former CEOs that apparently made the world function by pure force of will/personality? Or is that place now just a loving landfill? They literally had a free energy machine.
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Rick_Hunter posted:Did they ever explain how galt's gulch functioned with just a bunch of former CEOs that apparently made the world function by pure force of will/personality? Or is that place now just a loving landfill? I read the book on a bet and the two of us settled on a draw based on a technicality, 37 god drat pages of one poo poo head speaking uninterrupted saying what could be condensed into maybe one paragraph if Rand wasn't such a stunningly awful author was just too much for me.
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Rick_Hunter posted:Did they ever explain how galt's gulch functioned with just a bunch of former CEOs that apparently made the world function by pure force of will/personality? Or is that place now just a loving landfill? A free energy machine so its literally deus ex machina
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WoodrowSkillson posted:A free energy machine so its literally deus ex machina Because that instantly translate into some way to produce food/clean water/magical cloaking device without someone applying said free energy. In short, someone would have to figure out how to turn free energy into those things, build the device and then man it, or *dum-dum-dum* work. Laziest loving plot device ever. Especially since from what I understand the big deal was that he didn't want to share when the rest of the world was all "Hey, could you show us how to make one of those too? That really would solve so many problems it's not funny." And the dude was all "Nope. I wanna be special!" and throws a tantrum worthy of a five-year-old child because they want to copy his device. As if the actual, physical proof you could make a perpetual motion machine wouldn't start a massive R&D race as every university, research lab, defense contractor, etc. doesn't immediately drop their current plans and starts trying to reverse engineer the machine from any pictures that they have. The world would probably have their own perpetual motion machines/deus ex machina in 4-5 years, 10 on the outside.
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Alkydere posted:As if the actual, physical proof you could make a perpetual motion machine wouldn't start a massive R&D race as every university, research lab, defense contractor, etc. doesn't immediately drop their current plans and starts trying to reverse engineer the machine from any pictures that they have. The world would probably have their own perpetual motion machines/deus ex machina in 4-5 years, 10 on the outside. All of the people who could even possibly come close to that decamped for Galt's Gulch. Anyone who wouldn't go to Galt's Gulch was a huckster who was selling bullshit, not a Trve Captain Of Industry.
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Alkydere posted:As if the actual, physical proof you could make a perpetual motion machine wouldn't start a massive R&D race as every university, research lab, defense contractor, etc. doesn't immediately drop their current plans and starts trying to reverse engineer the machine from any pictures that they have. The world would probably have their own perpetual motion machines/deus ex machina in 4-5 years, 10 on the outside. Actually no, because only a True Captain of Industry has the ingenuity to make such a machine. And a TCI wouldn't share because they're above selflessness. e: fb
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if I recall correctly Galt's Gulch also had some sort of super technology making it invisible so that the ungrateful takers couldn't storm the place after society collapsed. I don't know how you read a book where for everything to work out we have to have magic scifi technology to even hope to function and say that it will work if we institute it all right now. I mean I know it means you are either an idiot or know that the thing is a scam and are rich enough to profit but it sucks we have to suffer since people keep trying to push a bad fanfic as serious policy.Zanzibar Ham posted:Actually no, because only a True Captain of Industry has the ingenuity to make such a machine. And a TCI wouldn't share because they're above selflessness. Except for that pirate guy that died saving Galt since he was so cool. Even in context of her lovely book she knew she actually had to have characters act somewhat heroic breaking down her ideology because the alternative would be everyone murdering each other over spare change. Someone wrote up an article on how the book disproves itself numerous times it is so badly written but I've lost it. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 15:31 on May 9, 2016 |
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Radish posted:if I recall correctly Galt's Gulch also had some sort of super technology making it invisible so that the ungrateful takers couldn't storm the place after society collapsed. I don't know how you read a book where for everything to work out we have to have magic scifi technology to even hope to function and say that it will work if we institute it all right now. I mean I know it means you are either an idiot or know that the thing is a scam and are rich enough to profit but it sucks we have to suffer since people keep trying to push a bad fanfic as serious policy. This is basically why Libertarians love science fiction so drat much: It allows them to invent ridiculous scenarios where their ideology actually works out. Then they inadvertently write them as insane dystopias anyway and don't notice.
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My favourite objectivist literature is the Sword of Truth series. A series in which a former traumatised rape victim is threatened with more rape by the main character's wife, and ends with everyone who doesn't agree with the main character's objectivist viewpoints being sent to actual hell.
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Kokoro Wish posted:My favourite objectivist literature is the Sword of Truth series. A series in which a former traumatised rape victim is threatened with more rape by the main character's wife, and ends with everyone who doesn't agree with the main character's objectivist viewpoints being sent to actual hell. Oh my god, don't even get me started. In one book he goes to fantasy Soviet Russia and convinces everyone that Capitalism is amazing by doing a bunch of jobs himself and creating the most perfect statue anyone has ever seen. In another book he slaughters a nation of pacifists because they had the gall to be pacifists. This is the hero and who we are supposed to relate to.
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Some crazy person is Let's Reading it right now here. They just finished the 4th book and it's really terrible. And it only gets worse!
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Night10194 posted:This is basically why Libertarians love science fiction so drat much: It allows them to invent ridiculous scenarios where their ideology actually works out. It should also be pointed out that quite a few of their stories are set in present-day alternate universes so they can say "See?! This is what we could have right now if only the government wasn't holding
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Does /r/The_Donald stuff go here? I haven't seen much posting about it. It is now the biggest politically related subreddit. Someone posted a gif of a girl flicking off Trump Tower and taking a pic. The comments are beautiful. /r/The_Donald posters losing their poo poo and everyone else mocking them. https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/4ij1hs/girl_flipping_off_the_trump_tower/
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Who What Now posted:It should also be pointed out that quite a few of their stories are set in present-day alternate universes so they can say "See?! This is what we could have right now if only the government wasn't holding Libertarian thinking functions as an excuse in two contexts: The college alt-right dropout who is convinced he (and it's usually he) could be God King of all Industry if the government would just get out of the way (which is a safe excuse because we'll never actually get rid of government, basically, so he can continue thinking that without the assumption ever really being challenged by reality) and the rich man saying 'Look, taking everything I can from the world is moral, selfishness is morally justified.' to assuage his conscience.
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Kokoro Wish posted:My favourite objectivist literature is the Sword of Truth series. A series in which a former traumatised rape victim is threatened with more rape by the main character's wife, and ends with everyone who doesn't agree with the main character's objectivist viewpoints being sent to actual hell. Only read the first book and that was enough for me. I also wrote while inebriated my reactions to every chapter.
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Some crazy person is Let's Reading it right now here. They just finished the 4th book and it's really terrible. And it only gets worse! Oh thank god, I was just thinking about trying to reread some of it and this will save me the pain.
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Who What Now posted:It should also be pointed out that quite a few of their stories are set in present-day alternate universes so they can say "See?! This is what we could have right now if only the government wasn't holding Naturally, the irony that these amazing Mary Sue corporate assholes can deliver feats of hard work and innovation, but are absolutely stumped by taxes and regulations from the people they dub so inferior never occurs to them. I don't understand how someone gets so far up their own rear end that they genuinely believe in this self-aggrandizing temper tantrum of a "philosophy". It's like FYGM, but without even the Got Mine part.
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Some crazy person is Let's Reading it right now here. They just finished the 4th book and it's really terrible. And it only gets worse! I would suggest that no one actually read that thread. I can appreciate the OP's dedication to the darkness, but even with the comedic riffing going on there, you are still subjected to honestly one of the shittiest things ever put to paper. Those books are a god-awful steaming pool of abject jackassery. One of my friends went through his Libertarian phase a bit later in life than usual and read that entire series and tried to get me to read it. He thankfully gave up that fiasco and became a cool guy instead.
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Geostomp posted:Naturally, the irony that these amazing Mary Sue corporate assholes can deliver feats of hard work and innovation, but are absolutely stumped by taxes and regulations from the people they dub so inferior never occurs to them. You see it on the left sometimes too, but not so much these days.
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Some crazy person is Let's Reading it right now here. They just finished the 4th book and it's really terrible. And it only gets worse! Is that the series that was somehow translated into a decent TV show?
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Doctor Butts posted:God drat, it seems all of the loving bullshit liberals had to go through back in the day has fallen down the memory hole. If people can remember specific incidents to search for, let me know. Some of us remember. Ever since then I've taken the time to poo poo all over the press (ESPECIALLY CNN) every single chance I get and will never vote Republican until I die, barring a realignment. Crowder does remember those years, probably fondly, as he was likely the one throwing poo poo at protesters and sending death threats to anybody who asked questions. It was a literal Crusade according to the administration so I imagine he was SUPER on board Galt's free energy machine sounds like a deus ex machina on par with the Orson Scott Card's freaking FTL drive. After that book I didn't even bother reading the rest. Xenocide I think it was Epic High Five fucked around with this message at 17:26 on May 9, 2016 |
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Some crazy person is Let's Reading it right now here. They just finished the 4th book and it's really terrible. And it only gets worse! Oh my god, thank you for linking this. It's a special thrill to vicariously re-live these terrible books with other goons occasionally chiming in and going "Seriously, what the gently caress?"
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Actually no, because only a True Captain of Industry has the ingenuity to make such a machine. And a TCI wouldn't share because they're above selflessness. If I recall correctly, only Galt ran the generator in the Gulch and things worked because one of the other TCIs had a fancy car that he could rent to Galt in exchange for the perpetual energy, and another TCI had something else to sell/rent, and another cooked food for sale, and so on. So basically even the Gulch janitor was somehow a TCI who could earn enough from the other Gulch residents to rent a generator. Or something. It all fell apart about 1/3 of the way through when the government forcibly stole Reardon's metal from his factory. Or when Dagny abandoned whatsisface. Or maybe in the first paragraph. I don't remember anymore. That book was basically "Ancap 101".
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Some former Facebook employees (sorry, "contractors") have been airing a shitload of laundry about the Trending News widget. Gizmodo has a 1500 word article about how Facebook was suppressing conservative news. And a 50 word disclosure about how Gawker is currently participating in a Facebook News curation program.
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Klaus88 posted:Is that the series that was somehow translated into a decent TV show? Yep, but the show was entirely reliant on being syndicated. So it ended up getting canceled
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Phone posted:Some former Facebook employees (sorry, "contractors") have been airing a shitload of laundry about the Trending News widget. Dear me, Facebook trended an article about how O'Reilly doesn't understand how welfare works instead of a Red State article that says 'O'Reilly delivered a devastating monologue to those welfare queens?'   CENSORSHIP   Although looking for that FB article did clue me into this article. http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/get-hosed-john-kasich-1775106445
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Alkydere posted:As if the actual, physical proof you could make a perpetual motion machine wouldn't start a massive R&D race as every university, research lab, defense contractor, etc. doesn't immediately drop their current plans and starts trying to reverse engineer the machine from any pictures that they have. The world would probably have their own perpetual motion machines/deus ex machina in 4-5 years, 10 on the outside. Best case: Eclipse Phase.
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Bob the Angry Flower sums up the aftermath of Atlas Shrugged nicely: The problem with libertarian sci-fi is that it requires magic to work. What I wonder is if the writer ever realizes this themself and has to make something up in order to make their point.
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If only there was a way to be completely surrounded by conservative media by only opening my eyes and getting out of bed. Oh wait, there is.
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Doctor Butts posted:God drat, it seems all of the loving bullshit liberals had to go through back in the day has fallen down the memory hole. If people can remember specific incidents to search for, let me know. Americans need to watch what they say, watch what they do We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. quote:In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn't like about Bush's former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House's displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn't fully comprehend -- but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency. I really wish Trump would quote that last bit back at the GOP #NeverTrump crew. Zwabu fucked around with this message at 18:22 on May 9, 2016 |
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Rick_Hunter posted:Dear me, Facebook trended an article about how O'Reilly doesn't understand how welfare works instead of a Red State article that says 'O'Reilly delivered a devastating monologue to those welfare queens?' http://gizmodo.com/former-facebook-workers-we-routinely-suppressed-conser-1775461006 Not quoting the whole thing, but this is the best part: quote:Among the deep-sixed or suppressed topics on the list: former IRS official Lois Lerner, who was accused by Republicans of inappropriately scrutinizing conservative groups; Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker; popular conservative news aggregator the Drudge Report; Chris Kyle, the former Navy SEAL who was murdered in 2013; and former Fox News contributor Steven Crowder. “I believe it had a chilling effect on conservative news,” the former curator said. It sounds like someone got pissy that his Hate-Speech-as-News wasn't being flagged as trending.
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Prepare the Walsh anger because this is Bigquote:U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch is slated to announce law enforcement action related to North Carolina Monday at 3:30 p.m. E.T., according to a Justice Department statement. The press conference comes after North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory announced a lawsuit against the federal government in response to a Justice Department letter saying the state’s new anti-LGBT law violates civil rights.
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