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my bony fealty posted:Well that would be some pretty weird aging since Howland Reed would be like 40 and the High Sparrow looks to be, uh, much older than 40 I'd agree but the guy who played young Howland looked to be a few years older than young Ned and Jonathan Pryce is only like ten years older than Sean Bean IRL and I'm just hoping my pet theory is true. 
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I extremely want the Sparrow to be Howland Reed, but there's like no way it actually is the case. It's like varys being a merman.
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May 9, 2016 13:06
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whatever7 posted:I don't think we will get pregger Lyanna next week. They still have to flash back to Lyanna running off with prince Targ first. We might not find out Jon's secret until e5, e6. It's Ep5. quote:Synopsis: Tyrion seeks a strange ally. Bran (Isaac Hempstead Wright) learns a great deal. Brienne (Gwendoline Christie) goes on a mission. Arya (Maisie Williams) is given a chance to prove herself.
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May 9, 2016 13:06
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So in the books didn't Smalljon die? And the Greatjon lived? Albeit taken captive? Regardless, in the TV show, how could any Umbar side with a Frey/Bolton after such treachery? Is this D&D loving up again? Or a trick on the part of the Umbars? Are they going to play the role of Manderly in the book?
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hemophilia posted:I extremely want the Sparrow to be Howland Reed, but there's like no way it actually is the case. It's like varys being a merman. I've never read the books but this one 3 minute youtube video I saw convinced me Varys is indeed a merman
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May 9, 2016 13:13
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I'm now convinced they'll drag out the tower of joy reveal for another two seasons or so. That was a pretty poo poo troll especially when it looked like Bran was going to just go see, treeman be damned.
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May 9, 2016 13:15
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Also, it's really lazy characterization to make minor villains into paedophiles just to emphasize that they are Naughty Men Who Are Up To No Good. First Meryn Trant, now the Karstark heir. I rather liked Tommen echoing Joffrey's "I AM THE KING!!!11!" outburst in his conversation with the high sparrow.
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May 9, 2016 13:18
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LemonDrizzle posted:Also, it's really lazy characterization to make minor villains into paedophiles just to emphasize that they are Naughty Men Who Are Up To No Good. First Meryn Trant, now the Karstark heir. Makes me think the Umbar is actually on the Stark's side now. The way he called out Karstark as a pedo must mean he is a good guy!
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May 9, 2016 13:20
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LemonDrizzle posted:First Meryn Trant, now the Karstark heir. The Karstark seemed pretty pissed he said that, I think it was just a joke.
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May 9, 2016 13:20
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Rarrgh posted:Is this D&D loving up again? Or a trick on the part of the Umbars? Are they going to play the role of Manderly in the book? I'm seeing a lot of people say that Sansa will be getting to Castle Black next episode. Am I the only one who thinks it's still too early for her and Jon to meet? Maybe she'll arrive at the Last Hearth and some other Umber will play the role of the 'fat lord who changes his allegiance in a dramatic turn of events'?
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May 9, 2016 13:24
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BigglesSWE posted:His death can't come soon enough. No ill will to the actor, but the character is just a bore. I think the actor is doing a great job with really poor material/lack of character depth or development, Ramsey was a pretty good character in Season 3 and just never went anywhere interesting from there. Vanderdeath posted:I'd agree but the guy who played young Howland looked to be a few years older than young Ned and Jonathan Pryce is only like ten years older than Sean Bean IRL and I'm just hoping my pet theory is true. It would be really great if at least one one of the crazy out there theories ended up being true. I don't care which one - Reed is the High Sparrow, GoT is crypto-scifi, Tyrion is a Targ, whatever. The absolute best possibility being that Varys is a merman who wants the dragons to melt the wall and usher in a global flood, of course. Preston Jacobs always makes me a bit sad though, I feel like he could spend all that time analyzing fiction that actually, definitively has hidden depth and puzzles and the like rather than trying to piece together some grand unified theory of GRRM.
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LemonDrizzle posted:Also, it's really lazy characterization to make minor villains into paedophiles just to emphasize that they are Naughty Men Who Are Up To No Good. First Meryn Trant, now the Karstark heir.
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May 9, 2016 13:38
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Cersei is totally having Kevan killed. Maybe the show is so blunt now the scene will just be zombie mountain standing over a sleeping Kevan annnnd crunch.
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May 9, 2016 13:47
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I had never heard the "Varys is a merman" thing before and I love the fact that it's an actual crazy theory some people have. Something stupid like that should definitely end up being true, why not at this point.
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May 9, 2016 13:49
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Do you think present day Howland Reed (not the High Sparrow) could have a part this season? He can reveal Jon's parentage, rally other houses to his side and betray the Boltons/Freys since he's been characterised as a sneaky Stark loyalist. Maybe some more people in Winterfell will be "poisoned by their enemies." Seems like all the other Northern lords are awful, awful people with the possible exception of Manderly who might only have a very minor role and that's miserable. Is there any chance that Osha escapes a painful death? She's not even an interesting character but it's tedious. Ague Proof fucked around with this message at 13:56 on May 9, 2016 |
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May 9, 2016 13:52
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Tyrion threatens to throw him off a boat, and he says that that's unlikely to kill him or he's a pretty good swimmer despite how he looks. Ergo he is a merman. That's it.
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May 9, 2016 13:54
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Narmi posted:Tyrion threatens to throw him off a boat, and he says that that's unlikely to kill him or he's a pretty good swimmer despite how he looks. Ergo he is a merman. It gets even more ridiculous though. http://www.tinfoilfantheories.com/2015/03/game-of-thrones-varys-is-merman_22.html I can't believe what some people will come up with. Maybe they should use some of that time to read or watch something else.
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May 9, 2016 13:57
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I feel like Arya's "four brothers... three brothers and a half brother" line may be revisited at some point.
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May 9, 2016 14:00
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Shrapnig posted:I feel like Arya's "four brothers... three brothers and a half brother" line may be revisited at some point. Why? It's just an excuse for the waif to slap her with the stick again. E: VVV drat you, I corrected so quickly! 
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May 9, 2016 14:05
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I don't see why it would be revisited, but it's actually not true assuming the reveal is what we think it is, he'd be her cousin.
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my bony fealty posted:GoT is crypto-scifi Tyrion Targ is pointless and a lot of Preston's stuff is utterly insane homeless guy with a corkboard nonsense but I absolutely believe this is possible, whether as a bombastic mindfucker ending or as a thing with sly little clues that readers will be able to piece with no real impact on the actual plot I kind of hope it's the former and that the show ends with Bran heading for Alpha Centauri on a goddamn starship, because the combined outrage from viewers who think it's the hokiest poo poo possible and readers who are absolutely livid that the show spoiled that twist would be one of the most amazing things in internet history to witness
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May 9, 2016 14:08
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Rarrgh posted:Regardless, in the TV show, how could any Umbar side with a Frey/Bolton after such treachery? Bad writing.
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Young Ned Start looked like Neil Patrick Harris doing a bit from How I Met Your Mother
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Zombies' Downfall posted:Tyrion Targ is pointless and a lot of Preston's stuff is utterly insane homeless guy with a corkboard nonsense but I absolutely believe this is possible, whether as a bombastic mindfucker ending or as a thing with sly little clues that readers will be able to piece with no real impact on the actual plot I hope it turns out to be true and GRRM didn't plan it initially but said gently caress it after ASoS and made it sci-fi. The Others are aliens from Iceoros and built the wall as part of a terraforming project, idk there's plenty of fun directions to take it in. 'Magic' is returning to the world cuz their mothership is coming back to colonize the rest of the planet after thousands of years, activating dormant technology. Would even be a good way to tie up some interesting conflicts, like the maesters' secret plan to destroy magic through science is actually just retarding future science they don't understand. If they can have a time traveling tree internet, why not!?
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The episode was pretty.. meh. I wanst nearly as hyped for the ToJ scene as most here and still I found it disappointing. Everything else was either stupid or not very interesting. Next episode the seven gods thenselves are are going to materialize at Winterfell and bow to Ramsay. The old gods he will capture and turn into an army of reek-gods Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 15:00 on May 9, 2016 |
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May 9, 2016 14:31
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Rarrgh posted:So in the books didn't Smalljon die? And the Greatjon lived? Albeit taken captive? Yeah, Greatjon is a captive of the Freys and Smalljon dies defending Robb. It's likely that the Umbers are plotting something because the alternative is just really, really bad writing. The two universal rules that everyone follows are that kinslayers are damned by the gods (Robb and Karstark) and guest right is a sacred, inviolable right, and anyone who breaks it is cursed (Rat Cook style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWFeamtjHJE&t=50s). We've seen Ramsay break the first when he murdered Roose and his baby brother, now Umber is turning over his guests to a sadist, breaking the second. If this isn't some secret plot to betray Ramsay when he least expects it, or that Umber just ensured his own doom, then the writers are ignoring their own rules. e: Though we have yet to see any of the Freys punished, likely that will happen at some point, probably the feast where Walder was in the trailer (hopefully). Narmi fucked around with this message at 15:01 on May 9, 2016 |
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Elias_Maluco posted:The episode was pretty.. meh. That's how I've felt about this season so far. These episodes haven't been particularly bad, they're just kind of bland. And that sucks because a lot of cool poo poo has happened so far. Like Roose's death should have been this major "gently caress YEAH" cathartic moment and it...just...sort of happened. And this was a guy that killed a beloved major character and played a part in one of the most shocking and heartbreaking events in the series. Then theres Doran, Trystane, I didn't even care for the hangings last night either.
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Yudo posted:i wish they would stick to a plot an episode instead of jumping around. rip the lovely band aid off and then let us enjoy the worthwhile stuff undistracted. yup.
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Kajeesus posted:She was being goaded into adding the Waif to Arya's list, which would admit that she still thinks of herself as Arya. It's the first actually subtle thing they've done in any of Arya's scenes. I kinda got that too, but at the same time wasn't Merryn Trant on her list and didn't she leave him off? I also think the Waif was just trying to get Arya to admit that a week ago she was still killing people off her list as Arya. That's kinda a big sign she hasn't fully let go yet.
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I know there are a lot of maps of the book's world, but are there any maps for the show's world that illustrate how Theon can walk into the frozen wilderness of the North one episode and show up in Pike two episodes later?
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Jagermonster posted:I know there are a lot of maps of the book's world, but are there any maps for the show's world that illustrate how Theon can walk into the frozen wilderness of the North one episode and show up in Pike two episodes later? A wizard did it.
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Zaphod42 posted:I kinda got that too, but at the same time wasn't Merryn Trant on her list and didn't she leave him off? I also think the Waif was just trying to get Arya to admit that a week ago she was still killing people off her list as Arya. That's kinda a big sign she hasn't fully let go yet. She killed Trant last season. Her list was only people still alive.
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Jerkface posted:She killed Trant last season. Her list was only people still alive. Yeah but last season for her was like a week ago like I said. She included The Hound but he's potentially dead (even if we know better) and how does she know Tywin and others are dead? I guess news has reached Braavos. Jagermonster posted:I know there are a lot of maps of the book's world, but are there any maps for the show's world that illustrate how Theon can walk into the frozen wilderness of the North one episode and show up in Pike two episodes later? Steals a horse? Not too crazy.
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Zaphod42 posted:Steals a horse? Not too crazy.
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah but last season for her was like a week ago like I said. She included The Hound but he's potentially dead (even if we know better) and how does she know Tywin and others are dead? I guess news has reached Braavos. He had a horse, he asked to take one didint he? He just have to ride to the coast and get a ticket in one of those Westeros speed boats everyone uses, is not that absurd (not sand snakes levels of absurdity at elast)
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Jagermonster posted:I know there are a lot of maps of the book's world, but are there any maps for the show's world that illustrate how Theon can walk into the frozen wilderness of the North one episode and show up in Pike two episodes later? yes, it's called "A Westerosi Guide to Autism" guh,,,d&d, i wish we would have had 6 episodes of theon riding horseback/taking a boat to pike..smdh
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The best thing about the Varys is a Merman theory is no one ever really engages in how he gets around. They just say 'His robe hides his tail, we never see his feet!' But like, is he balancing on his tail the whole time like a loving sea lion? Does he have an enormous version of one of those wheeled baby walkers that he uses to scoot around, complete with a secret set of freight elevators hidden around King's Landing so he can avoid stairs? Does he get his army of children to push him around in a shopping cart and prop him up wherever he needs to be seen? I sincerely hope so. my bony fealty posted:I hope it turns out to be true and GRRM didn't plan it initially but said gently caress it after ASoS and made it sci-fi. The Others are aliens from Iceoros and built the wall as part of a terraforming project, idk there's plenty of fun directions to take it in. 'Magic' is returning to the world cuz their mothership is coming back to colonize the rest of the planet after thousands of years, activating dormant technology. Would even be a good way to tie up some interesting conflicts, like the maesters' secret plan to destroy magic through science is actually just retarding future science they don't understand. If it turns out to be true, GRRM will still be only the second person to write a dragon fantasy series that turns out to be scifi all along. Ashcans fucked around with this message at 15:20 on May 9, 2016 |
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Elias_Maluco posted:He had a horse, he asked to take one didint he? Yeah I forgot, he explicitly asked Sansa if he could have one. So he just speeds to the nearest port and then says "gently caress you I'm a greyjoy"
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