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I think we just wrote half the script for Not Spider-Man: A XXX Parody.
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Is the Rogue Cut of DoFP worth watching? I want to see the film again before Apocalypse comes out and only have time to watch one version.
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Toxxupation posted:Canonically speaking Aunt May's Peter Parker's mom, not his aunt. We don't talk about Trouble around here, son. :spits some chaw and the ground:
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Lamont posted:Is the Rogue Cut of DoFP worth watching? I want to see the film again before Apocalypse comes out and only have time to watch one version. It doesn't really change a ton, but I'd watch that version if you have a choice between the two and haven't seen the Rogue version. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 18:08 on May 9, 2016 |
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May 9, 2016 18:05
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What was the in story reason for Pepper not being in CW? I somehow didn't catch it
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May 9, 2016 18:42
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They're split up.
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omg chael crash posted:What was the in story reason for Pepper not being in CW? I somehow didn't catch it Tony kept going back to his Iron Man suits despite promising he wouldn't and she had enough. It's basically "Tony's an alcoholic" but with Iron Man in place of actual alcohol.
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May 9, 2016 18:45
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Attention super hero's girl and boyfriends: They are never going to pick you over the suit.
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May 9, 2016 18:47
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zoux posted:Attention super hero's girl and boyfriends: They are never going to pick you over the suit. Cap clearly chose Bucky over the suit. 
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May 9, 2016 18:48
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ImpAtom posted:Cap clearly chose Bucky over the suit. Obviously the only path to a stable relationship is Ant-Man style husband and wife matching suits.
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May 9, 2016 18:51
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ImpAtom posted:Cap clearly chose Bucky over the suit. Sebastian Stan is far too cool looking! It's funny to me that the most grounded, realistic superhero movie villain yet is based on a guy who permanently glued an oversized purple stocking cap to his head.
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May 9, 2016 18:56
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omg chael crash posted:What was the in story reason for Pepper not being in CW? I somehow didn't catch it She went to hang out with Natalie Portman.
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May 9, 2016 19:03
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zoux posted:Attention super hero's girl and boyfriends: They are never going to pick you over the suit. That and Paltrow saying no more Pepper unless she's promoted to a hero and not just a love interest. Which I can't see them doing outside an Iron Man 4. Maybe more to the point, the world isn't going to let Tony especially pick Pepper over the suit. He's tried that two or three times now and poo poo keeps happening that demands Iron Man.
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May 9, 2016 19:33
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They do have a solution there in the form of Rescue if they actually wanted to.Cythereal posted:Maybe more to the point, the world isn't going to let Tony especially pick Pepper over the suit. He's tried that two or three times now and poo poo keeps happening that demands Iron Man. Honestly has anything happened since Iron Man 3 that actually required Iron Man and wasn't caused by Tony?
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speaking of love interests. It's pretty crazy that Mary Jane has only appeared in half of Spider-man's cinematic outings so far.
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Nothing is more dangerous in any Marvel continuity than a guilty Tony Stark trying to make amends.
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Cythereal posted:Maybe more to the point, the world isn't going to let Tony especially pick Pepper over the suit. He's tried that two or three times now and poo poo keeps happening that demands Iron Man. So this made me think a little, regarding situations that would "demand" Iron Man or Cap or whoever. It's like what Spiderman says: now that he has the power to save people, anytime he doesn't its his fault. But to me this is like saying: man this fresh drinking water is life-saving, all those people in Africa that died from not having any is my fault! Or am I misinterpreting what he is saying and he actually means what Vision said early on in the film " Because I have these powers and I'm spiderman now, criminals want to challenge/fight me so its indirectly my fault that they are here to begin with?"
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Rurea posted:So this made me think a little, regarding situations that would "demand" Iron Man or Cap or whoever. He was just saying "with great power comes great responsibility" without actually saying it for the 100th time. I have a more broad question. When Tony Stark went to the floating prison known as the Raft, did anyone catch any easter eggs or nods? I figure they'd throw something in there as a little wink wink nudge, but I didn't catch anything. Then again, I was 4 rows away from a 3D IMAX showing and I couldn't see much clearly.
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Rurea posted:It's like what Spiderman says: now that he has the power to save people, anytime he doesn't its his fault. That logic only carries forward if you're routinely walking around in Africa with a two-gallon drum of filtered water over your shoulder. It's as much about opportunity as it is access/capability.
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Rurea posted:So this made me think a little, regarding situations that would "demand" Iron Man or Cap or whoever. It's the Superman zone of influence thing There is a "zone" that every person has where they can have a direct influence on those around them. For instance using your water analogy. It would be like if you were walking around with your plentiful amounts drinking water and ran into someone who was thirsty and didn't have water and just needed some of yours to make it and survive. It's literally Spider-man's Origin story. He didn't stop a bad guy and Uncle Ben died because of it. So now if Peter sees something that he could do to help he won't hesitate to do it. Because if he didn't the consequences are on him. (Superman's zone of influence is entire galaxies lol)
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May 9, 2016 20:05
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Man, gently caress Gwyneth Paltrow. Pepper Potts is absolutely not needed as a character.
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May 9, 2016 20:10
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Dexo posted:It's the Superman zone of influence thing Okay so the water analogy doesnt really work I guess. I guess its more like, if you are a mandated reporter and see signs of a child being abused and do nothing about it.
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May 9, 2016 20:10
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The whole point of that line is the logic that states how Kevin Costner literally advocating that Superman kill kids in Man of Steel is morally reprehensible. If you have the capability, and the ability, to safely save a life without endangering your own and decide not to, your inaction means that those deaths become your responsibility. This isn't even a theoretical case: Good Samaritan laws are passed to compel those who can save lives to do so without fear of liability or prosecution out of that same implicit moral understanding, and duty to rescue has become de facto prosecuted, seeing total idiots like homeopath parents charged with crimes for failure to act in the safety of their children. In a world where superheroes exist they have the obligation to save lives, not just the imperative to.
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May 9, 2016 20:11
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So is Jonathan Kent Jerry, or George?
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Ignite Memories posted:Man, gently caress Gwyneth Paltrow. Pepper Potts is absolutely not needed as a character. lol, you mean good for her because she doesn't need to play second fiddle to RDJ.
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Pepper Potts is entirely needed because Tony Stark needs someone who will call him on his poo poo and who he will listen to. Rhodes kinda-sorta fills that role but doesn't have the same influence on Tony and without that poo poo-called Tony... well, he makes a whole lotta fuckups is what he does.
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Ignite Memories posted:Man, gently caress Gwyneth Paltrow. Pepper Potts is absolutely not needed as a character. Rescue is an awesome concept, Gwyneth Paltrow is a good actress, and the MCU needs more genuine female superheroes anyway. Scarlet Witch is literally the only one that exists so far (Black Widow is as much a genuine superhero as Clint Barton is), and that's embarrassing. Especially considering that the MU has a boatload of awesome female superheroes from which to pick.
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MacheteZombie posted:lol, you mean good for her because she doesn't need to play second fiddle to RDJ. Okay, let's not say dumb things. Everyone in the MCU plays second fiddle to RDJ. He's the foundation upon which this whole universe is built, the same way Spider-Man is the foundation of the MU. If we don't have RDJ, we don't have an MCU. We just don't. Period.
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Ignite Memories posted:Man, gently caress Gwyneth Paltrow. Pepper Potts is absolutely not needed as a character. Uh apparently she agreed.
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Toxxupation posted:Okay, let's not say dumb things. Everyone in the MCU plays second fiddle to RDJ. He's the foundation upon which this whole universe is built, the same way Spider-Man is the foundation of the MU. If we don't have RDJ, we don't have an MCU. We just don't. Period. It's why Marvel has to be loving relived that Guardians did as well as it did. Because that's like the only movie not involving RDJ to do real numbers.
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Dexo posted:It's why Marvel has to be loving relived that Guardians did as well as it did. Because that's like the only movie not involving RDJ to do real numbers. Winter Soldier did really good numbers, the Captain America brand has been built up to the point I would say Chris Evans is a solid (but very far behind, like everybody else) number two to RDJ in terms of being or tied with the superhero that he plays. RDJ is Tony Stark is Iron Man. You can see that's true because people refer to Tony Stark and Iron Man interchangably, and I would argue that Steve Rogers/Captain America is very near to that level of recognition. Everybody else though, yeah. If you said Peter Quill or Clint Barton or Natasha Romanoff or Richard Barnes, people would be all like "Who?"
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zoux posted:Nothing is more dangerous in any Marvel continuity than a guilty Tony Stark trying to make amends. Surely Reed gives him some competition here?
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Toxxupation posted:If we don't have RDJ, we don't have an MCU. We just don't. Period. If you mean without RDJ the MCU wouldn't have kickstarted I can't disagree, but if you mean the continuation of MCU relies solely on RDJ's presence I'd argue that it is not a good thing.
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It's the former, I mean he's currently its main draw but they've already fostered enough talent that the MCU can survive and make a fuckload of money without RDJ. But while he's there, in every movie he's in, he's its most important character. And it's not undeserved when you think about it; I'm confident that RDJ's portrayal of Tony Stark will be looked back on as one of the greatest/most appropriate casting choices ever made in the history of movie-making.
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Toxxupation posted:Rescue is an awesome concept, Gwyneth Paltrow is a good actress, and the MCU needs more genuine female superheroes anyway. Scarlet Witch is literally the only one that exists so far (Black Widow is as much a genuine superhero as Clint Barton is), and that's embarrassing. Especially considering that the MU has a boatload of awesome female superheroes from which to pick. Most of Marvels female heroes' film rights belong to other studios though. Cloak and Dagger is getting a series (I think?) so there's one and She-Hulk is, honestly, probably a bit too hard to shoehorn into the MCU. We're getting a Captain Marvel movie and Marvel half-owns the rights to Spider-Man so we could get that whole crew now but what other big name ladies are there in Marvel that aren't part of the X-Men?
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Sockser posted:Most of Marvels female heroes' film rights belong to other studios though. Cloak and Dagger is getting a series (I think?) so there's one and She-Hulk is, honestly, probably a bit too hard to shoehorn into the MCU. We're getting a Captain Marvel movie and Marvel half-owns the rights to Spider-Man so we could get that whole crew now but what other big name ladies are there in Marvel that aren't part of the X-Men? Angela Valkyrie Tigra Moondragon Quasar Crystal Medusa Spider-Woman Silk Enchantress Firestar Spectrum Kate Bishop Misty Knight Squirrel Girl Ms. Marvel Arana/Spider-Girl
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Ms Marvel Squirrel Girl Monica Rambeau
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TFRazorsaw posted:Angela - Almost no chance
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