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Oxxidation posted:The pantheon in FFXIII is generic Gnosticism with a critical head injury. Hm, I can kinda see that. I never thought of it that way because the whole "Bhunivelze can't see souls" thing obviously doesn't come up until the third game. There isn't really a big distinction between the physical and spiritual realms in XIII or XIII-2.
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In Training posted:I think it's like SMT1 where you kill YHWH, and is part of the reason NOA refused to touch it and the series took a long time to make its way overseas. You're thinking of SMT2, beating up the archangels Uriel, Gabriel and Raphael is the closest you get in the first one.
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Kanfy posted:You're thinking of SMT2, beating up the archangels Uriel, Gabriel and Raphael is the closest you get in the first one. Also we're going to beat up YHVH again in the upcoming SMTIV:Apocalypse.
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Sakurazuka posted:The list of games where you kill god with a capital G is like Xenogears and maybe one of the SMT games. 
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Pureauthor posted:Also we're going to beat up YHVH again in the upcoming SMTIV:Apocalypse. I hope he's still a giant head. Lex Luthor the Destroyer of Worlds.
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No mention of The Final Fantasy Legend? You murder God with a chainsaw after he tells you your entire adventure was a sad joke with no meaning.
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8-Bit Scholar posted:And let's not pretend like Buddhism/Taoism/Confucianism/Hinduism have not in the past held roles of authority and had firm hierarchies and corruption and power-grabs and poo poo like that. Religion + government power = fuckery. Given the cycle of death in Spira is sort of a grimdark interpretation of death and reincarnation within Eastern tradition and the main character is awakened (or, say, enlightened) from a dream world, after which he finds himself protecting a sage on a long pilgrimage to save the entire world from suffering. It's like a Journey to the West meets Godzilla and Grave of the Fireflies. Yeah, it's very eastern instead of western is what I was driving at.
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wasn't there a goon poster who was adamant that ff9 was a rip off of journey to the west
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General Morden posted:wasn't there a goon poster who was adamant that ff9 was a rip off of journey to the west Dragonball Z actually.
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ImpAtom posted:Dragonball Z actually. which saga
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General Morden posted:which saga Saiyan. What a card!
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General Morden posted:wasn't there a goon poster who was adamant that ff9 was a rip off of journey to the west It's important to note that when it was pointed out that both draw inspiration from journey to the west, said poster denied this and said "no no, FF9 is a rip-off of dbz"
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:Saiyan. Which is crazy because Kuja is Zidan's brother, but he doesn't die at the start of the game, but he's too hot to be Vegeta. It's an awful comparison from every direction.
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Would someone be kind enough to dredge up what page/s that took place in?
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Cape Cod Crab Chip posted:Would someone be kind enough to dredge up what page/s that took place in? Here you go.
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So he seems to think the game more or less took a nosedive come Disk 3. That at least isn't a completely rare opinion. A lot of people seem to think Disk 3 and on of FFIX is noticeably worse than the first two. I never really understood why but I've read it often enough.
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CeallaSo posted:No mention of The Final Fantasy Legend? You murder God with a chainsaw after he tells you your entire adventure was a sad joke with no meaning. (Seriously though, was he God or did he just create the Tower that everyone lived in?)
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NikkolasKing posted:So he seems to think the game more or less took a nosedive come Disk 3. That at least isn't a completely rare opinion. A lot of people seem to think Disk 3 and on of FFIX is noticeably worse than the first two. But disk 3 has all the pay off and conclusion for everyone's character arcs? It's honestly the best part of that game.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:But disk 3 has all the pay off and conclusion for everyone's character arcs? It's honestly the best part of that game. Even Freya's? But I'm not arguing with you. I like Disk 3 just fine.
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NikkolasKing posted:Even Freya's? Freya and Armarant kinda get lumped in together starting in disk 3. In Treno you can get his backstory and see exactly why he's so focused on Zidane and how one little meeting with Zidane changed the course of his life and that gets mirrored by Freya's growth and dialogue. It's not much, mostly because Freya is very much underwritten past Clerya's destruction, but what's there is still pretty good.
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You guys are reminding me of the massive shame I feel for never finishing IX. I always peter out somewhere in disc 2, probably tried to finish the game half a dozen times. It isn't bad, I recommend it to friends looking for JRPGs... Something about the first half just doesn't hook me.
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FFIX starts out as Blade Runner, then becomes Melancholia.
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pichupal posted:One of the Roos is my low point, I think Fossil Roo? I don't remember liking either though. I looooove the Gargan Roo music.
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I never made it past disc three in FF IX, but that's not really disc three's fault so much as it is due to disc one and two just taking forever. IX really could have benefitted from some tighter pacing. The bad loading times on the PSX didn't help either.
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Samuel Clemens posted:I never made it past disc three in FF IX, but that's not really disc three's fault so much as it is due to disc one and two just taking forever. IX really could have benefitted from some tighter pacing. The bad loading times on the PSX didn't help either. FF9 PC is right there with it's fast load times and it's X5 speed up all for you.
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Hey guys FFX HD PC is out in a couple of days, no biggie http://store.steampowered.com/app/359870/
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Tempo 119 posted:Hey guys FFX HD PC is out in a couple of days, no biggie So that's, what, all the mainline FF's on Steam now besides 1, 2, and 12? e: And all the sequels too (besides Revenant Wings and the FF5 anime but who even remembers those two exist anyway) Mega64 fucked around with this message at 00:51 on May 10, 2016 |
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Wonder why the first game isn't on Steam yet? II has issues and I do love that clunky game, but you figured the original would got ported from the PSP one that on IOS/Android ages ago? That said, I would love if they gave you the option of the PSP graphics with the Origins gameplay for I & II before it got made super easy for the GBA and later releases.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:FF9 PC is right there with it's fast load times and it's X5 speed up all for you. You're right. I think it's time I give the game another chance.
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http://gematsu.com/2016/05/final-fantasy-brave-exvius-coming-west Final fantasy Brave Exvious is also coming to the west. That's the...mobile game that has Lightning Return combat, I think?
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Tae posted:http://gematsu.com/2016/05/final-fantasy-brave-exvius-coming-west It's the Final Fantasy version of Brave Frontier. Mobius is the Lightning Returns combat one I think.
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Tempo 119 posted:Hey guys FFX HD PC is out in a couple of days, no biggie does this have any new content over the PS2 version?
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Countblanc posted:does this have any new content over the PS2 version? The versions after the PS2 is the International version: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_X/Version_differences edit: High speed boost? Is this the closest to cutscene skip we'll get for FFX? Tae fucked around with this message at 01:44 on May 10, 2016 |
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Mega64 posted:So that's, what, all the mainline FF's on Steam now besides 1, 2, and 12? Vaan gets a shirt so I remember Revenant Wings (and FFTA2). It also makes Ashe a Time Mage who equips Bombs which is a cool choice.
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Yeah, you know, just casually ripping open the boundaries of reality. No big deal, really.
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Samuel Clemens posted:Yeah, you know, just casually ripping open the boundaries of reality. No big deal, really. The laws of the universe means nothing!
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I hate how one of Ramza's popular portrayals as a hero is him shouting. It's such an waste when he has so much other cool poo poo.
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