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I always just assumed I could buy a machine gun anytime I wanted at a gun store or online. The only information I have on gun buying is for that one episode of The Simpsons, so admittedly I may not be an expert.
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:I always just assumed I could buy a machine gun anytime I wanted at a gun store or online. The only information I have on gun buying is for that one episode of The Simpsons, so admittedly I may not be an expert. The closest you can get is to buy parts for a gun that's relatively close to a machine gun and modify it into being one, and then go to prison for doing so.
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May 9, 2016 04:04
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VikingSkull posted:when it hits the goldmine it's gonna be "currently housing and providing medical care for..." These comments are bad even by youtube comment standards.
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May 9, 2016 04:08
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Yeah a fully automatic Browning M2 is a pretty rare thing in civilian hands, if they found one with the serial numbers defaced there probably isn't a huge list of missing examples for them to check it against, and the legal owner would definitely report it.
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Goodpancakes posted:As someone who has shot a lot of an M2, lol what are you going to do with it under your bed? You are shooting that off of a huge rear end heavy as poo poo tripod at best. It's gonna take you 10 minutes at least to be able to aim and shoot it. Not if you're the most electifying man in action figure tie-ins. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO137EdvSTg
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:The closest you can get is to buy parts for a gun that's relatively close to a machine gun and modify it into being one, and then go to prison for doing so. This is bullshit brb going to occupy a local national park about it
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Y'know, we were wondering what the heaviest weapons these chucklefucks would have access to during the Occupation, and during one stream we saw some guys messing with something that almost looked like a tripod. And now it turns out one of their groupies actually had a goddamned automatic M2. 
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Young Freud posted:Well, you can "own" a machine gun produced after 1986. As a non-military or non-law enforcement personnel, you would have to hold a Federal Firearms License, usually a Class 3 dealers license or a Class 2 manufacturers license, and you can own and sell what are called "post-samples", fully-automatic firearms that were made after '86 that you use to demonstrate to others how it functions and such. However, those licenses are moderately expensive, like $1000 tax per year, I believe you have to show that you're operating as a business, require letters from a local police department that they have a need for such guns and someone to deal to them, and if you give up your license, you either have to sell your post-'86 guns or destroy them. This is accurate, but I was more referring to the average civilian collector. Actually reading the article a bit better, the owner in question was a manufacturer most likely, but again, I was just talking normal people for the sake of simplicity. Liquid Dinosaur posted:These comments are bad even by youtube comment standards. lol yeah they are
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May 9, 2016 16:13
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Final a Trump take their coats moment that was good.
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May 9, 2016 16:24
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So I'm excited for tomorrow. We're due a 10-15 page brief from Ammon Bundy regarding jurisdiction. It was originally due last week but he got an extension to today for travel.
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May 9, 2016 16:48
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Knight posted:Gavin is the epitome of a Wound Collector, going out of his way to create opportunities where he is slighted so he can come back with a story of how much he's suffered in life. Huh, I learned a new and very interesting term today. Cool.
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OAquinas posted:Y'know, we were wondering what the heaviest weapons these chucklefucks would have access to during the Occupation, and during one stream we saw some guys messing with something that almost looked like a tripod. jetliners beware lol shoulder thing that goes up
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The thing about being behind an M2 when you're on the defensive is that you've got the same odds as the watchtower snipers, which is to say the first rounds fired are to take you out
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thats understandable. The militia nuts are a loose canons who trump would have little control over. Say some of them take over another place and do it in his name and there are reports of some of them meeting him, he would be hosed.
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May 9, 2016 22:40
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Trump is shooting for the top position in the government, so there is zero benefit to pandering to people that don't believe in government.
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Epic High Five posted:The thing about being behind an M2 when you're on the defensive is that you've got the same odds as the watchtower snipers, which is to say the first rounds fired are to take you out I'm less worried about one of these nutfucks trying to hVe another gubmint standoff and more one of them having the connections to get one and then driving to time square and opening up on a crowd because they aren't getting as much attention as brown Isis
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Dapper_Swindler posted:thats understandable. The militia nuts are a loose canons who trump would have little control over. Say some of them take over another place and do it in his name and there are reports of some of them meeting him, he would be hosed. Trump Campaign Official Praises ‘Great Success’ Of Bundy Standoff Talking Points Memo posted:“It’s my intention to ensure that he has the whole story,” [Jerry DeLemus] said. “I think it'll really arouse him, and once he understands, I wouldn't be surprised to see him heading out West."
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Ammon Bundy had intended refuge occupation to end up in civil court, lawyers sayquote:Ammon Bundy led the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge intending to force a civil court to take up the constitutionality of federal land management policy, his lawyers contend in new court papers filed Monday. This isn't even a defense, it's just 33 pages of them begging the court to drop the charges because something something Scalia something BLM you're not my real dad Knight has issued a correction as of 04:45 on May 10, 2016 |
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Any non-SovCit lawyer would require a heroic amount of willpower to read this without their eyes rolling out of their heads. On the plus side, I think this proves that jail has had something of a humbling effect on Bundy. At least now he realizes that he should deny that he wanted revolution. He's still an arrogant idiot, but he's not completely convinced that he's invincible.
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When this thread was talking about prison cake I looked up facts about prison meals (since here in the south we basically feed prisoners moldy and rotten food that costs fractions of a cent per day) and found out that Subway spokesman and noted pedophile Jared Fogle has gained most of his weight back eating prison cake and sobbing, and he got bitch slapped by a prisoner and ran crying out of the prison gym.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:When this thread was talking about prison cake I looked up facts about prison meals (since here in the south we basically feed prisoners moldy and rotten food that costs fractions of a cent per day) and found out that Subway spokesman and noted pedophile Jared Fogle has gained most of his weight back eating prison cake and sobbing, and he got bitch slapped by a prisoner and ran crying out of the prison gym. The system works.
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Knight posted:Ammon Bundy had intended refuge occupation to end up in civil court, lawyers say That makes a small amount of sense, albeit .01%. Pretty much every time someone squats on someone else's land, they aren't arrested for trespassing and it goes to the courts/sheriff as an eviction matter. It's completely discretionary for how the system treats it, and since these guys actually thought they'd have others on their side, I can see the logic in thinking this. I did eviction crap for a living, including of government owned properties (fannie Mae) and sovcits that would break in, bar the door and whatnot would get treated with kid gloves. He probably heard stories like that from all over the country within the sovcit movement. mastershakeman has issued a correction as of 15:16 on May 10, 2016 |
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mastershakeman posted:That makes a small amount of sense, albeit .01%. Pretty much every time someone squats on someone else's land, they aren't arrested for trespassing and it goes to the courts/sheriff as an eviction matter. It's completely discretionary for how the system treats it, and since these guys actually thought they'd have others on their side, I can see the logic in thinking this.
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That's a great legal defence. We could have just filed this suit with the court, but instead we stocked up on guns and occupied federal land and threatened a bunch of people.
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Knight posted:I admit I'm much less informed on evictions, but I thought one had to establish legal residence to be evicted, otherwise it would just be criminal trespassing. Could their 40 days actually have counted as established residence? Technically in most US jurisdictions if you can manage to squat in a place for long enough (in Oregon this time frame is 10 years) without being evicted/arrested you can take legal possession of it. I honestly doubt the Bundy idiots would of wound up hanging around there for that long if the feds didn't intervene. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adverse_possession#United_States http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/105.620
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Knight posted:Ammon Bundy had intended refuge occupation to end up in civil court, lawyers say This just kills me because they're all like "we're trying to raise this issue!" and "the federal government doesn't have jurisdiction!" when there have been several cases that have already decided these things (and that yes the federal government can own that land and no your new lawsuit isn't going to do anything that hasn't been done). It's just willful ignorance. mastershakeman posted:That makes a small amount of sense, albeit .01%. Pretty much every time someone squats on someone else's land, they aren't arrested for trespassing and it goes to the courts/sheriff as an eviction matter. It's completely discretionary for how the system treats it, and since these guys actually thought they'd have others on their side, I can see the logic in thinking this. Unfortunately when you do it in such a way that it prevents government employees from doing their job I guess it's a felony, oops! Also it probably doesn't help when you bring a shitload of guns to the party and act all hostile. Who wants to go try to serve an eviction notice to a bunch of guys who have openly stated they're itching for a reason to shoot you?
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DeathSandwich posted:Technically in most US jurisdictions if you can manage to squat in a place for long enough (in Oregon this time frame is 10 years) without being evicted/arrested you can take legal possession of it. I honestly doubt the Bundy idiots would of wound up hanging around there for that long if the feds didn't intervene. They would have run out of things to poo poo on long before then
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I saw a lifted truck with a Punisher logo overlaid with the US flag, a 3%er sticker and a Marines logo on it. Unfortunately they did not get pulled over so there was no show.
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Knight posted:I admit I'm much less informed on evictions, but I thought one had to establish legal residence to be evicted, otherwise it would just be criminal trespassing. Could their 40 days actually have counted as established residence? In Chicago it's whether there's "indicia of possession. ". I had the police tell me in so many words that once people moved in furniture it wasn't trespassing anymore. Basically the case law said once there was a question of right to possession it went to court, and it was up to the police to determine if there was a question. But yes making a lot of noise and publicity is what did them in, im just saying they probably knew of hundreds of sovcits who got the matter handled in civil court and thought they would too.
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Apparently Cliven is suing Harry Reid or something https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/730097995476307970
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Oh my god this loving lawsuit http://www.seditionists.com/bundy2016civil1.pdf No sooner than this had occurred, Defendant HARRY REID, acting in concert with Defendants RORY REID and OBAMA , each and every one of them, jointly and severally, issued what in effect were public threats to and made false defamatory statements about Defendant BUNDY and his family to further his under the table negotiated deal to seize and sell the BUNDY ranch and its chattels, including any remaining cattle, for profit and/or kickbacks from the purchaser(s), some of whom were reported to be communist Chinese. This is it. This is exactly why sovcits exist.
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Tayter Swift posted:Apparently Cliven is suing Harry Reid or something
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That document is quite possibly the greatest thing ever written. Following the legal and constitutional stand-off, whereby Plaintiff BUNDY, his sons and other family members and supporters exercised their Second Amendment right of self- defense against the government, and succeeded in having the BLM agents and representatives leave the Bundy ranch unharmed, Plaintiff BUNDY publically equated his and his family’s situation to the plight of “Negroes” in the old South, whereby they were enslaved by a tyrannical government as he and his family believed they were given the threats and violent attacks on his family members, his cattle and the Bundy’s supporters. He chose the word “Negro” believing that this was a proper term for African-Americans, having looked up the word in Webster’s dictionary. He meant no disrespect and insult to African-Americans, particularly since he was equating his and his family’s plight with them. Indeed, the Reverend Martin Luther King referred to his people as “Negroes” and he is recognized as the greatest African-American civil rights leader in American history. --- 41. On information and belief, Defendant NAVARRO undertook to violate Defendant BUNDY’S constitutional rights not just because she was told to do so by Defendant HARRY REID and Defendant OBAMA, who proposed and nominated her to the federal bench, but also to curry favor with the likelihood of a Democrat administration under the presidency of Hillary Clinton. 42. As a Latino Democrat woman, Defendant Navarro understood that she would be high on the list for a higher judicial or other appointment if she contributed as the sitting judge to have Defendant BUNDY denied right of counsel of Klayman, as Klayman has been a strong public advocate in exposing and taking legal actions to address and remedy the rank corruption of Bill and Hillary Clinton.
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Tayter Swift posted:Oh my god this loving lawsuit So the President and many others decided to attack poor, innocent Cliven because his cattle, the walking bags of bones we've seen, were worth so much to China apparently?
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Geostomp posted:So the President and many others decided to attack poor, innocent Cliven because his cattle, the walking bags of bones we've seen, were worth so much to China apparently? the land is worth it to China because of mineral rights or some poo poo it's very complicated
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They want it for the precious uranium ore! Because it's super rare and precious all of a sudden! I guess they think you just pull it out of the ground and toss it in a metal tube and shake it up and BAM, nuclear power/bomb
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Geostomp posted:So the President and many others decided to attack poor, innocent Cliven because his cattle, the walking bags of bones we've seen, were worth so much to China apparently? Suffering makes the meat taste better.
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Geostomp posted:So the President and many others decided to attack poor, innocent Cliven because his cattle, the walking bags of bones we've seen, were worth so much to China apparently? Reid wants to steal the Bundy ranch and give it to his son, who will then sell the land to the Chinese to use as a solar farm. Bundy ranch land is a better choice than literally anywhere else in the Great Basin because reasons.
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