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Well, it is unfinished. It is worth noting that Technopop made both games completely free though, so you can try them out either in Kega or your actual flash cart.
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May 11, 2016 06:47
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Dominic White posted:A bit bullet-heavy for my tastes (I prefer more esoteric guns), but Pillowblaster knows how to make some satisfying guns.
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May 11, 2016 06:51
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Dominic White posted:A bit bullet-heavy for my tastes (I prefer more esoteric guns), but Pillowblaster knows how to make some satisfying guns.  I also love that your melee is you straight uppercutting whatever's in front of you with your off hand.
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May 11, 2016 06:52
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Ha, while checking on when the new Trailblazer version would be out (this weekend, apparently), I noticed that there's a new version of ProDoomer due out soon. I have a soft spot for that mod. It's an amazing labor of love, and also barely coherent in often kinda cool ways.
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Shadow Hog posted:I kinda wonder how unprofitable it'd be to move away from DVD to read-only USB flash memory or SD cards or something. I dunno, I just know IndieBox does something like that, and while on the one hand it's weird to consider they're not using CDs, on the other hand it kinda makes sense. Once you move from DVD's to flash memory you start to double the price, and for the sizes of games today they'd be shipping you 50+GB external hard drives instead of a couple of CD's.
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May 11, 2016 07:15
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Mak0rz posted:Can anyone recommend WADs for just chill casual play? I'm thinking maps that are short and sweet and aren't too enemy dense. Something like the stock Doom 1/2 campaigns in terms of map complexity. I've already played Doom The Way id Did (and D2TWID) and Scythe. What else is there? Have you tried Perdition's Gate? It's the "lost" Final DOOM game that Tom Mustaine saved from the depths and slapped the WAD up on his blog. Check it out if you haven't. blackmarketlimb fucked around with this message at 07:27 on May 11, 2016 |
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May 11, 2016 07:25
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Elliotw2 posted:Once you move from DVD's to flash memory you start to double the price, and for the sizes of games today they'd be shipping you 50+GB external hard drives instead of a couple of CD's. Your old pal Guangzhou Charlie would be glad to hook you up with thousands of 64 gb thumb drives for around a buck a unit. 2 bucks a unit and you might even get QA. But that's likely higher than a 64 gb pile of dvds.
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dis astranagant posted:Your old pal Guangzhou Charlie would be glad to hook you up with thousands of 64 gb thumb drives for around a buck a unit. 2 bucks a unit and you might even get QA. But that's likely higher than a 64 gb pile of dvds. IIRC bulk DVD replication cost works out to something like $.20 to .40 USD for a bulk order of 10,000 and blu-ray was around .85. DVD cases work out to $.20 to .40 per unit for the same amount. So let's call it around $3-4 per game box, including the paper packaging, scratch off CD key card, any booklets, etc. Last I heard the shipping cost from Shanghai/Quingdao to North America for a standard 20 foot ISO container was down past $600 again ("less than double" if you get a 40 foot container IIRC), with around $1,300 per container in import fees to the US. Further costs will include pallets (around 11/container), shipping boxes, plastic wrap, etc. Then there's transport from the port to whatever warehousing you've got, or directly to distributor (Amazon/Gamestop/etc) warehousing, it would likely be cheaper to contract a logistics company to deal with this stuff. 
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dis astranagant posted:Your old pal Guangzhou Charlie would be glad to hook you up with thousands of 64 gb thumb drives for around a buck a unit. 2 bucks a unit and you might even get QA. But that's likely higher than a 64 gb pile of dvds. 3 bucks if you want them to have an actual capacity of 64GB, instead of 2GB faked to look like 64GB.
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May 11, 2016 08:55
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KozmoNaut posted:3 bucks if you want them to have an actual capacity of 64GB, instead of 2GB faked to look like 64GB. May I ask where can I see that? I want a few as win10 and Ubuntu installer drives and don't mind if they are kind of trash or slow. Still better than burn a DVD and carry an external drive because the laptop I'm installing doesn't have a dvd drive.
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May 11, 2016 09:19
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KozmoNaut posted:3 bucks if you want them to have an actual capacity of 64GB, instead of 2GB faked to look like 64GB. It's not even that hard to pull off this scam; go to AliExpress and search for USB Flash Drive and you'll find listings that are like "64 GB Real Capacity 16 GB" The device will report as having a particular value and the OS will trust this which causes fun poo poo like address wraparrounds that can corrupt data.
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Monster infighting confirmed? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLToGa1bNFc&t=355s 
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Dominic White posted:A bit bullet-heavy for my tastes (I prefer more esoteric guns), but Pillowblaster knows how to make some satisfying guns.  That looks real sweet
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May 11, 2016 10:37
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Imo Trailbazer and Guncaster are way more refined for actual gameplay than RO.
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May 11, 2016 10:52
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Guncaster still has the best revolver of any game I've played.
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Klaus88 posted:
Haha I was not ready for it. That was some freakin terminator poo poo
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Also classic Doom didn't provide any tools, let alone free ones. Well, aside from DoomBSP, but that was just a node builder and nobody actually needed it with how quickly the specs were reverse engineered.
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Hmm yes I can see how checking all these boxes make the games feel and play exactly the same! 
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Hey, Doom 4's design doc was a bunch of features to include in checklist. Also, "devs are lazy"? Who and where used this argument? And I just marvel at how many games with bad sequels/reboots can be compared in such boneheaded way. Oh well. It's the
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Elliotw2 posted:Well, it is unfinished. It is worth noting that Technopop made both games completely free though, so you can try them out either in Kega or your actual flash cart. I didn't know about this site, nor that the ROM images were totally legit free, that's great! Now I've gone from feeling slightly bad to not-bad-at-all for playing it through the Mega Drive/Genesis collection. Thanks for the link. And yes, the colour pallette for BZT is horrendous, but then again, I didn't make it past the first level. Does it get at all better?
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:And yes, the colour pallette for BZT is horrendous, but then again, I didn't make it past the first level. Does it get at all better? A while back, I thought about using this as a reference to remake at least a level or two of ZT in ZDoom, either as its own project or as a secret map in an unrelated project. Now that portals are in the engine and I can do the "car park ramp" style transitions between floors more gracefully, maybe I'll get on that...
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The Kins posted:The game is very, very unfinished, so I'd assume no. You're a goddamned tease! But yes, please do this 
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Doctor Shitfaced posted:
Lmao. Thats worse than 9/11. A different game made in a completely different game engine with completely different design goals and balancing is somehow the same according to these superficial qualifiers.
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Chex quest is closer to doom than do4m. Im not saying do4m will be bad or whatever but christ what an rear end in a top hat. Please someone bait him into comparing chex quest and do4m
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Curdy Lemonstan posted:Chex quest is closer to doom than do4m. Im not saying do4m will be bad or whatever but christ what an rear end in a top hat. Please someone bait him into comparing chex quest and do4m do4m? Oh you mean Retard 4.
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Curdy Lemonstan posted:Chex quest is closer to doom than do4m. DOOM looks like it'll capture a lot more of what I like about Doom than Chex Quest does. Call me crazy. And it's not here to replace or replicate classic Doom, it's a new Doom game. I don't remember the internet being this dramatic when Doom 3 was coming out, and this one looks like it'll please a lot of the fans much more.
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Heavy Metal posted:DOOM looks like it'll capture a lot more of what I like about Doom than Chex Quest does. Call me crazy. And it's not here to replace or replicate classic Doom, it's a new Doom game. I don't remember the internet being this dramatic when Doom 3 was coming out, and this one looks like it'll please a lot of the fans much more. guess you forgot that doom 3 was a long running joke then
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Heavy Metal posted:DOOM looks like it'll capture a lot more of what I like about Doom than Chex Quest does. Call me crazy. And it's not here to replace or replicate classic Doom, it's a new Doom game. I don't remember the internet being this dramatic when Doom 3 was coming out, and this one looks like it'll please a lot of the fans much more. I do. The thing was it never ended, it just hit a crescendo after the game was released with wailing about flashlights and then slowly dimmed off, complete with spikes at the releases of RoE and the BFG edition.
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They didn't give out any review copies of Do4m so that's a pretty good indication of garbage. I'm bummed.
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Beastie posted:They didn't give out any review copies of Do4m so that's a pretty good indication of garbage. Would you think that if somebody else hadn't suggested the idea? And who cares about reviews anyway. From watching the videos I can tell that I personally would find Uncharted 4 to be really bad. And I tried the first 3, didn't like any of them. It has a 94 on metacritic. There's no shortcut to knowing if you'll like a game, it's all personal taste. It's just silly to me when somebody posts comments on the review on some site saying "bummer. game looked good to me. Oh well." Just because some guy didn't like it? Maybe they would still like it if they played it, since they're not the same person. Science. Professional reviewers, metacritic, rottentomatoes, I have no use for this common consensus silliness. (and that said, DOOM will still probably get decent reviews. I'll post my findings in the DOOM thread!) Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 14:31 on May 11, 2016 |
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Heavy Metal posted:Would you think that if somebody else hadn't suggested the idea? And who cares about reviews anyway. From watching the videos I can tell that I personally would find Uncharted 4 to be really bad. And I tried the first 3, didn't like any of them. It has a 94 on metacritic. There's no shortcut to knowing if you'll like a game, it's all personal taste. People are really passionate about their demon shooter in space, c'mon now.
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Curdy Lemonstan posted:Chex quest is closer to doom than do4m. Im not saying do4m will be bad or whatever but christ what an rear end in a top hat. Please someone bait him into comparing chex quest and do4m Chex Quest is good. And apparently there's a UE4 remake of it in progress, lead by one of the original devs.
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No you see 12 heroes nurturing their passion project during the golden days of gaming is exactly the same as a dystopian gray corporation known for their bland garbage whipping their drones to churn out a game based on maximizing revenues and then fleecing the customers with contentless depressing dlc, because both heroes look like master chief!!!
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Curdy Lemonstan posted:No you see 12 heroes nurturing their passion project during the golden days of gaming is exactly the same as a dystopian gray corporation known for their bland garbage whipping their drones to churn out a game based on maximizing revenues and then fleecing the customers with contentless depressing dlc, because both heroes look like master chief!!! id has been making this new Doom for a really long time, so nobody is whipping anybody to churn out anything. They even got to completely scrap the "Call of Doom" build of the game as we know. Your narrative here on small teams vs big teams and whatnot is nice and everything, but great games have been made under both scenarios. We could always just post our impressions of the game in a couple days, that's what I'll do. (and I liked the beta)
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Curdy Lemonstan posted:No you see 12 heroes nurturing their passion project during the golden days of gaming is exactly the same as a dystopian gray corporation known for their bland garbage whipping their drones to churn out a game based on maximizing revenues and then fleecing the customers with contentless depressing dlc, because both heroes look like master chief!!! Is current id the UAC and the id where Carmack killed a cat Hell breaking loose?
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Heavy Metal posted:Would you think that if somebody else hadn't suggested the idea? And who cares about reviews anyway. From watching the videos I can tell that I personally would find Uncharted 4 to be really bad. And I tried the first 3, didn't like any of them. It has a 94 on metacritic. There's no shortcut to knowing if you'll like a game, it's all personal taste. I'm in a weird spot because I'm planning on buying it with the first paycheck I get from my new job and I've been hyping myself up for two weeks now. I was thinking about what you said and as long as it's not broken I'll still get it. I mean, it's Doom, I'm not expecting anything more than a fun, gruesome, atmospheric (or not, Mars) shooter. The idea of the level editor helps me a bit. Is there a Doom thread? I didn't see one earlier. Beastie fucked around with this message at 15:18 on May 11, 2016 |
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Beastie posted:I'm in a weird spot because I'm planning on buying it with the first paycheck I get from my new job and I've been hyping myself up for two weeks now. I was think about what you said and as long as it's not broken I'll still get it. Yep, but the thread is called DO4M at the moment. (I do hope they change it to a ctrl+F'able "DOOM" at some point)
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Curdy Lemonstan posted:No you see 12 heroes nurturing their passion project during the golden days of gaming is exactly the same as a dystopian gray corporation known for their bland garbage whipping their drones to churn out a game based on maximizing revenues and then fleecing the customers with contentless depressing dlc, because both heroes look like master chief!!! Take your meds.
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