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Nothing can forgive the fairy sex goddess and the sex ninjas. Rothfuss conned a sizable number of people into reading his wank fantasies.
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How are we supposed to realize how cool Kvothe was if we didn't know how good at sex he was? Also, don't forget that they weren't just sex ninjas. They were ninjas that viewed sex so casually that they never linked it to pregnancy.
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May 11, 2016 16:19
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SpacePig posted:How are we supposed to realize how cool Kvothe was if we didn't know how good at sex he was? Which means there was probably tons of "accidental" incest and inbreeding going on but that's not a problem because their "way of zen" was just so powerful that everyone was born perfect.
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May 11, 2016 18:02
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Xy Hapu posted:You would have to write thousands of pages of poo poo. I say just let the professionals handle it The problem with the "it's intentionally bad" angle is that at the end of the day, it's still bad. Yeah, you're right but no one gives a gently caress about the distinction between being really good at pretending you're a lovely writer and actually being one.
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May 11, 2016 18:08
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I knew there was something off about these books. Now I'm ashamed for having read them.
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May 11, 2016 18:12
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:I knew there was something off about these books. What part tipped you off?
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May 11, 2016 18:21
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:What part tipped you off? Perhaps he was tipped off in three parts?
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May 11, 2016 18:28
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anilEhilated posted:Turdis McWordis to the rescue! I'm going to have to insist that you not use my pen name, TIA. Having Kote be an unreliable narrator, or Ambrose all along, or whatever thing that somehow make the book seem more self-aware would work at the end of the first book, and that's about it. Having what's going to be near 2000 pages of a story end up being made up bullshit would be probably the biggest letdown. I know I'm not getting a fantastic ending that ties every loose end, because there's too many of them to settle in a single book. But I'd like an ending that at least resolves something.
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May 11, 2016 18:59
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:What part tipped you off? The sex ninja and sex fairy chapters. I'm ashamed I didn't get there on my own though, this thread helped me articulate all those feelings.
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May 11, 2016 19:14
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Xy Hapu posted:I'd rather Kote be Ambrose, old and guilt ridden after killing Kvothe to the extent he takes up his old enemy's name and spreads his legend while vilifying himself. The prose is overwrought and nonsensical because Ambrose is a hack poet and the characterization one-dimensional because he wants Kvothe in the best possible light and himself as a mustache twirling villain, yet enough of his old self remains that he has unconsciously painted Kvothe as kind of a douche also. He doesn't actually know that much about Kvothe's past so the story just nonsensically transitions from one phase to another, following the broad strokes he is aware of. Kvothe's inexplicable hatred of poetry is a reflection of Ambrose's own self-loathing. Bast is like, Kvothe's ghost or something. This worked as a four-page Borges short story. It would work less well as a 3000-page trilogy.
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May 11, 2016 19:41
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SpacePig posted:I'm going to have to insist that you not use my pen name, TIA.
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May 11, 2016 20:09
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anilEhilated posted:Actually we've both been beaten, the account is already around. That's what happens when you don't copyright your claims. I do need a particularly goony looking Rothfuss-inspired avatar, however. I'm leaning towards this: 
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May 11, 2016 22:05
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th-the-th-th-th-that's all folks!
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May 11, 2016 22:07
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Turdis McWordis posted:I do need a particularly goony looking Rothfuss-inspired avatar, however. I'm leaning towards this: I'm glad an off-hand joke of mine lead to somebody registering an account. Neat.
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SpacePig posted:I'm glad an off-hand joke of mine lead to somebody registering an account. Neat. I've not been this delighted since
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May 12, 2016 15:22
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 Pat posted an update About Tak. His new kickstarter. Rothfuzz posted:
Tak does not look beautiful. Tak looks like two stoners dumped one of those Hillshire Farms smoked sausage gift baskets onto a chess board and started playing klingon tri-D checkers with the stacks of cheddar/crackers/processed meat and took the occasional bite out of the pieces. Even the waitresses in his blog are fictional stock characters. MartingaleJack fucked around with this message at 22:41 on May 12, 2016 |
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May 12, 2016 22:27
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Turdis McWordis posted:I do need a particularly goony looking Rothfuss-inspired avatar, however. I'm leaning towards this: Rothfuss manages to look more insane than the guy who shot up a PP clinic.
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May 12, 2016 22:32
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BananaNutkins posted:
It does look like a kinda fun game, but christ those pieces are hideous.
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May 12, 2016 22:47
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BananaNutkins posted:
I refuse to believe anyone could write that waitress's dialogue, sit back from their keyboard, and actually think "why yes that's how people talk."
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May 12, 2016 22:53
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BananaNutkins posted:Tak does not look beautiful. The Kickstarter says it comes with a companion book. Calling it now: the game ships with everything but the book, because it's just such a work of heartbreaking genius it'll take him years to finish it.
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May 13, 2016 00:57
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Strom Cuzewon posted:It does look like a kinda fun game, but christ those pieces are hideous. I'm tempted to try and break Tak. It doesn't look particularly deep. I'm not good at game theory though 
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Hate Fibration posted:I'm tempted to try and break Tak. It doesn't look particularly deep. I'm not good at game theory though It looks like tic-tak-toe.
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May 13, 2016 14:10
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PJOmega posted:I refuse to believe anyone could write that waitress's dialogue, sit back from their keyboard, and actually think "why yes that's how people talk." This post is really beautiful. I mean aesthetically. I just like looking at it
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Turdis McWordis posted:I do need a particularly goony looking Rothfuss-inspired avatar, however. I'm leaning towards this: It’s really beautiful. I mean aesthetically. I just like looking at it
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May 13, 2016 14:36
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PJOmega posted:I refuse to believe anyone could write that waitress's dialogue, sit back from their keyboard, and actually think "why yes that's how people talk." Rothfuss' waiter was Jim Norton's character Kirk Sinnamin.
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May 13, 2016 14:40
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He just really loves words guys.
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May 13, 2016 17:42
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Atlas Hugged posted:He just really loves words guys. He's got the best words.
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May 13, 2016 18:25
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JivJov is crossposting on reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/4j5wjg/the_name_of_the_wind_is_the_only_book_to_this/
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I'm just glad someone in there had the sense of namedropping Gene Wolfe because it seems more and more that's who Rothfuss is trying to emulate. Except for, y'know, Wolfe actually knowing how to use the narrator, not needing thousands of pages and being a good stylist.
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Benson Cunningham posted:JivJov is crossposting on reddit. Not me; my reddit username is the same as my name here
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May 14, 2016 11:22
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"It's so satisfying when something went the characters way for once" he says of a character who was paid to attend a prestigious University after learning the semi-advance magic they teach for free. I'm glad this very minor thing went his way, good for him.
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I can't think of a single thing that hasn't "gone his way" so far. Maybe when he tried to out sympathy Devi but lost? But that all worked out because why wouldn't it. Even when he pisses off what is basically a queen he walks away with tuition for life and a scheme to always have money.
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May 14, 2016 16:37
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I mean, his whole family was slaughtered that one time. That wasn't great.
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May 14, 2016 16:51
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His dad didn't like poetry, they probably had it coming.
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May 14, 2016 17:51
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Nakar posted:His dad didn't like poetry, they probably had it coming. Kvothe also thinks music and poetry are two unconnected things, though this could be Rothfuss's total lack of knowledge about music (or poetry) shining through as well.
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May 14, 2016 18:06
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The things Rothfuss doesn't know has filled two books and one novella/vignette.
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SpacePig posted:I mean, his whole family was slaughtered that one time. That wasn't great. This(and Tarbean) aren't REALLY part of the plot proper, though. They're just ~tragic backstory~ boxchecking
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:This(and Tarbean) aren't REALLY part of the plot proper, though. They're just ~tragic backstory~ boxchecking The Chandrian are technically the driving force behind his adventure, even if it's rarely addressed. It's not quite on the same level of pointlessness as Tarbean.
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anilEhilated posted:Emphasis on technically. They don't really drive much. Was there ANY movement on that plot line in book 2? I vaguely recall maybe the lightning tree bandit thing being connected in some vague hand wavy way, but I got distracted when Kvothfuss started having sex with his karate instructor.
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