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Tallgeese posted:Okay, enough of this poise nonsense. I'll take a look at it. The Perseverance weapon art is one thing, maybe the Unfaltering Prayer weapon art on talismans, too.
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BillmasterCozb posted:so pvp is just going to remain poo poo forever? ive wasted a hundred and forty four hours of my life Walter White. Use only Crystal Magic spells.
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Alabaster White posted:I think only Perseverance, Unfaltering Prayer, Stomp, Iron Flesh, and great weapon hyper armor grants poise, and several of those probably don't even work the same as each other. that sounds about right, and yeah I think hyper armor is different at least.
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May 11, 2016 23:36
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Tallgeese posted:Okay, enough of this poise nonsense. I'll take a look at it. Iron Flesh
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May 11, 2016 23:36
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Obviously nitpicking, but the poise demonstration video has the dagger hollows in the first area being referred to as the weakest enemies in the game. Is that actually correct, or are the weakest enemies the baby crabs or something else?
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May 11, 2016 23:37
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Atreiden posted:that sounds about right, and yeah I think hyper armor is different at least. My guess is that the weapon art stuff is literally EnablePlayerPoise=1, maybe with some extra points of poise on top.
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May 11, 2016 23:37
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Since Aldritch faithful has no consequences, I'm steadily slippping into sillier builds. Currently running around as a full dragon with a buckler and roll ring. Bumped into the same dragon faithful buddy twice so far, they were rocking the NK halberd. We tore poo poo up.
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I continuing the game grumps playthough and after Wolnir they decided to go with the holy sword, rather than black fire snake, despite having started as pyromancer. Also he has no idea what burning bone shards does, and he still has two or three estus set as blue despite never using weapon arts or spells  He also swapped out his dark sword, which he called "loving awesome" for Wolnirs and now its taking him longer to kill poo poo. I love it. Hes so terribleAlso Arin missed the fire tome in the swamp and is now in Irithyll and still using fireball 
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Spooky Bear Ghost posted:I continuing the game grumps playthough and after Wolnir they decided to go with the holy sword, rather than black fire snake, despite having started as pyromancer. Also he has no idea what burning bone shards does, and he still has two or three estus set as blue despite never using weapon arts or spells Hey, it could be the Best Friends LP where Pat ground up to SL60+ before the Cathedral and keeps complaining that everything is too easy. Also where he keeps pretending it's a blind LP even though it's painfully obvious he's looked things up beforehand. Moral of the story: don't watch big-name Youtubers even out of curiosity
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Alabaster White posted:My guess is that the weapon art stuff is literally EnablePlayerPoise=1, maybe with some extra points of poise on top. At this point, that wouldn't surprise me
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Spooky Bear Ghost posted:I continuing the game grumps playthough and after Wolnir they decided to go with the holy sword, rather than black fire snake, despite having started as pyromancer. Also he has no idea what burning bone shards does, and he still has two or three estus set as blue despite never using weapon arts or spells My friend used Wolnir's through the whole game. He admitted it's garbage but he used it because it looks cool and I can respect that.
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BillmasterCozb posted:so pvp is just going to remain poo poo forever? ive wasted a hundred and forty four hours of my life smough's leggings, winged knight helmet, dual wield whips. "Whitey"
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May 11, 2016 23:43
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Alabaster White posted:My guess is that the weapon art stuff is literally EnablePlayerPoise=1, maybe with some extra points of poise on top. IIRC it doesn't use the player's poise value and works the same regardless.
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May 11, 2016 23:44
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argondamn posted:It was actually already known that if you have zero poise you have no hyper armor and above zero poise you do, but that still pretty much counts as "poise does nothing" because nobody is walking around with zero poise. Except for the poor schmucks trying to use the dragon stones. Based on the gear I've collected, only a very select few items actually have 0 poise to them, and I couldn't find any pants in my inventory that actually had 0. The lowest was the Skirt of Prayer at 0.1. You'd REALLY have to go out of your way to run around with 0 poise while still wearing armor in order to avoid the damage penalty you take for having exposed slots.
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Spooky Bear Ghost posted:I continuing the game grumps playthough and after Wolnir they decided to go with the holy sword, rather than black fire snake, despite having started as pyromancer. Also he has no idea what burning bone shards does, and he still has two or three estus set as blue despite never using weapon arts or spells Is Game Grumps funny/entertaining, seeking replacement for the hole left by Ds Nutz.
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turtlecrunch posted:Is Game Grumps funny, seeking replacement for the hole left by Ds Nutz. its an acquired taste, I like them, but they can easily come off as super annoying to some people
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May 11, 2016 23:46
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Alabaster White posted:Hey, it could be the Best Friends LP where Pat ground up to SL60+ before the Cathedral and keeps complaining that everything is too easy. Also where he keeps pretending it's a blind LP even though it's painfully obvious he's looked things up beforehand. Can't stand Best Friends because of this guy. I only watched a few episodes of their Bloodborne LP but he's basically a spergy forum post personified. Good DS3 LPs right now: Northernlion, Kay, Zemalf turtlecrunch posted:Is Game Grumps funny/entertaining, seeking replacement for the hole left by Ds Nutz. Watch some of their one-offs to get a feel for their schtick before tackling an LP of a game like BB or DS3. I think they're funny anyway.
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Spooky Bear Ghost posted:Also Arin missed the fire tome in the swamp and is now in Irithyll and still using fireball Northernlion did the same thing on his pyromancer. He finally got Great Chaos Fire Orb later... and hasn't bought it yet. He thinks pyromancy is bad as a result. I don't know why I watch blind playthroughs of Souls games. I already know I don't like blind LPs in general--I tend to prefer when the LPer knows what they're doing and I can learn a thing or two or just watch someone be good at a game--but with Souls games I can't help myself. They make good background noise while I'm at work I guess. And I'm at least "mature" enough to keep my annoyance to myself. Deified Data posted:Can't stand Best Friends because of this guy. I only watched a few episodes of their Bloodborne LP but he's basically a spergy forum post personified. EpicNameBro's DS3 LP is getting good. He got over his early disappointment with the DS1 callbacks now that he reached AL and he seems super impressed and excited by everything now. It's kind of fun to watch him have fun. He's at Profaned Capital right now.
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Here's a relevant link to reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4h15b4/for_those_who_still_think_poise_has_an_effect/ quote:Unfaltering Prayer
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Deified Data posted:Can't stand Best Friends because of this guy. I only watched a few episodes of their Bloodborne LP but he's basically a spergy forum post personified. The best part is he's wrong about everything. Always. For someone so deeply invested in the series you'd think he'd understand any of its major tropes and components.
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Obligatum VII posted:Walter White. Use only Crystal Magic spells.  I couldn't get enough wrinkles on his face  SciFiDownBeat posted:smough's leggings, winged knight helmet, dual wield whips. "Whitey" In the character creator
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May 11, 2016 23:52
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Alright, some advice? Where do I take this character?  I could put more points into dex or vitality but that's kind of boring. Honestly I don't know what's an interesting direction to take it. Pyromancies are somewhat limited in pvp.
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Alabaster White posted:The best part is he's wrong about everything. Always. For someone so deeply invested in the series you'd think he'd understand any of its major tropes and components. Yeah this is really the worst part. It's not that he's wrong - I was wrong about a lot of poo poo on my first playthrough. It's that he's so confident in his rightness and states it as immediate fact and disregards everything that contradicts his assumption out of hand. I couldn't handle more than a few episodes of this guy. Whoever he was playing with seemed cool, can't remember his name, wasn't very experienced, but i kept watching and hoping he'd just hand the controller off to the other guy and let him do his thing.
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Deified Data posted:Yeah this is really the worst part. It's not that he's wrong - I was wrong about a lot of poo poo on my first playthrough. It's that he's so confident in his rightness and states it as immediate fact and disregards everything that contradicts his assumption out of hand. I couldn't handle more than a few episodes of this guy. Whoever he was playing with seemed cool, can't remember his name, wasn't very experienced, but i kept watching and hoping he'd just hand the controller off to the other guy and let him do his thing. He's playing with both Matt and Woolie. Sadly, it's Pat in the driver seat for the whole playthrough, which kinda sucks as in Bloodborne Pat and Woolie alternated at deaths which made for interesting watching as they have two different styles to playing Souls games.
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double nine posted:Alright, some advice? Where do I take this character? Put all your points in vigor.
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double nine posted:Alright, some advice? Where do I take this character? you should at least take vigor to 27. Higher if you want to do lvl 120 pvp. and raise endurance to at least 20
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What's the best way to fix "failed to join session" errors on xbox one? I finally joined the darkmoon covenant just now and I've been summoned 5 times and it's failed every time. Maybe this is why I've never been invaded? Googling it comes up with lots of people complaining about From's netcode. I tried quitting my session but that didn't help. My NAT Type is moderate, all services available.
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Seriously is it just me or have other Xbox players not been able to summon since basically day 1?
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null posted:What's the best way to fix "failed to join session" errors on xbox one? I finally joined the darkmoon covenant just now and I've been summoned 5 times and it's failed every time. Maybe this is why I've never been invaded? Googling it comes up with lots of people complaining about From's netcode. I tried quitting my session but that didn't help. My NAT Type is moderate, all services available. I get that a lot on PC, the only "answer" I have found, is the host died before you could load in. It only happens for invasions covenants for me
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null posted:What's the best way to fix "failed to join session" errors on xbox one? I finally joined the darkmoon covenant just now and I've been summoned 5 times and it's failed every time. Maybe this is why I've never been invaded? Googling it comes up with lots of people complaining about From's netcode. I tried quitting my session but that didn't help. My NAT Type is moderate, all services available. it could also be hosts who pull the plug when they're invaded, or die before you finish getting summoned, or a problem on their end.
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May 12, 2016 00:22
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Will breaking sequence and killing dancer early open consumed kings garden?
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Trying to kill the Dancer at low level with a slow weapon is probably the least fun I have ever had playing a Souls game, though I'm not sure how much of that was caused by the loving music (which gets incredibly annoying after the first couple of minutes since it's just high pitched chanting) before I realised you could turn it off. It's weird how much difference the animations make, the Dancer's "lightly brush you with my sword" animations make the entire fight unenjoyable but Champion Gundyr - who moves in a somewhat similar way - is just more fun to fight because you get some intuitive feel about how his attacks are happening and it doesn't feel like bullshit when he hits you. Next time I want to make a gimmick character I will just glitch it but I thought it might be fun 
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The Wonder Weapon posted:Will breaking sequence and killing dancer early open consumed kings garden? Yes
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The Wonder Weapon posted:Will breaking sequence and killing dancer early open consumed kings garden? You can do everything except Grand Archives.
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so is the Executioner's Greatsword kind of not good or am i missing something? just grabbed it on my Quality build in training dude and it seems sorta lackluster
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Tallgeese posted:Okay, enough of this poise nonsense. I'll take a look at it. Supposedly (I have not checked myself) Different talisman's have different amount of "Now you can tank poo poo!" Like, Sunlight talisman is supposed to have a good one, while Saint's talisman is supposed to have a lame one. If this is true, it could help nail down any differences in what goes on when using the "same" weapon art. Fextralife Wiki posted:The Saints Talisman has the weakest from of the Unfaltering Prayer skill, frequently being interupted by single greatsword attacks or straight sword r1 spam that other talismans will ignore. Million Ghosts posted:so is the Executioner's Greatsword kind of not good or am i missing something? just grabbed it on my Quality build in training dude and it seems sorta lackluster It looks cool, gives back a few FP per kill, and it has One Weird Trick that Ninja Skeleton's hate! Section Z fucked around with this message at 00:38 on May 12, 2016 |
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If you get more hyper armor based on weight, then...that's kind of ugh. Is the +poise ring from previous games still in? I forget.
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Lotish posted:If you get more hyper armor based on weight, then...that's kind of ugh. Yeah its from the wolf covenant
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Atreiden posted:I get that a lot on PC, the only "answer" I have found, is the host died before you could load in. It only happens for invasions covenants for me ponzicar posted:it could also be hosts who pull the plug when they're invaded, or die before you finish getting summoned, or a problem on their end. I don't know if that's it, I joined darkmoon a couple of hours ago and I've already had 6 failed summons, 0 successful ones. I guess I'll mess around with my network settings and see if it helps.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTlz7jlg0Ng I know this doesn't really prove anything but I was able to replicate that other video using nothing but a wolf ring +1 for my poise source. I don't really have the time or energy to actually prove anything. It's clear that there's something there, though. At the very least there's a difference between zero and non-zero poise.
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