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I haven't read DC in about two years but I keep seeing all this stuff about stuff about N52 Superman dying and being replaced by old Superman. Can't anyone give me a wuick spoiler on the current story? This actually seems super interesting to me.
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# ? May 10, 2016 04:33 |
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# ? May 14, 2024 05:49 |
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I don't think he's dying, I think he's losing his powers and just becoming Clark Kent while the Pre-N52 Superman who has been living on N52 Earth since Convergence becomes the actual Superman.
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# ? May 10, 2016 04:43 |
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omg chael crash posted:I haven't read DC in about two years but I keep seeing all this stuff about stuff about N52 Superman dying and being replaced by old Superman. Can't anyone give me a wuick spoiler on the current story? This actually seems super interesting to me. There was an event called Convergence where Braniac discovered an infinite multiverse (actually all of DC published history regardless of reboots) and stole cities from them to duke it out on his own world. Pre-Flashpoint Superman and Lois were in their collected Metropolis and she gave birth to their son. Dan Jurgens with Lee Weeks did their story in a two shot https://www.comixology.com/Convergence-Superman-2015-1/digital-comic/206567 After the event (which sucks. Just read the two-shot) with space and time jiggering, it's revealed that they've been living on New 52 Earth since the dawn of the Justice League and raised their son and did their thing in secret this whole time. Jurgens and Weeks pick up their story in 'Lois and Clark' https://www.comixology.com/Superman-Lois-and-Clark-2015-1/digital-comic/291994 Meanwhile, for the last year, N52 Superman has been revealed as Clark Kent and has had his power drained by Vandal Savage. He had to expose himself to Kryptonite, chemotherapy-style, to get his power back, but it's killing him (so he says*) and the final two months of Superman titles before Rebirth have been about Superman getting his affairs in order before he goes. This week's issue will be him meeting Pre-Flashpoint Clark for the first time. *We know that the Superman coming up in the Rebirth relaunch will be "Lois and Clark" Superman, but there will be a separate Clark Kent, which will probably be an unpowered civilian N52 Clark. 'Lois and Clark's been pretty nice, especially while every other Superman comic (apart from the great, out of continuity American Alien) has been stuck in a lame crossover during this time. I recommend following beardo dad Superman. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 05:36 on May 10, 2016 |
# ? May 10, 2016 05:16 |
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If there is a superman who is pre-flashpoint running around, how hasn't he figured out the flashpoint junk and killed histories greatest monster Barry Allen?
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# ? May 10, 2016 13:38 |
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Mr Hootington posted:If there is a superman who is pre-flashpoint running around, how hasn't he figured out the flashpoint junk and killed histories greatest monster Barry Allen? Because shut up, that's why. Barry is The Greatest Hero That Ever Lived.
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# ? May 10, 2016 14:37 |
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Barry Allen accomplished what the anti-monitor couldn't. The destruction of the DC.
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# ? May 10, 2016 15:05 |
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Superbro is a great character with a lot of unexplored potential and it's really boring that he's getting thrown out in favour of Superdad who's already had 25 years worth of stories especially with Dan Jurgens and Peter Tomasi writing, the former who's been really average at best and the latter who has been loving awful with the Superman character. Tomasi was easily the worst part of Truth and Last Days of Superman is decompressed with a really flimsy premise that's been dragged out to 8 issues and not nearly enough story going on to justify it. Ideally Lois and Clark should've just been an outside continuity series that just continued to tell Post Crisis Superman stories as if a reboot didn't happen instead of the convoluted setup that it had while someone like Greg Pak or of a similar caliber continued to tell good New 52 Superman stories that aren't constantly dragged into crossovers.
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# ? May 10, 2016 16:56 |
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AFoolAndHisMoney posted:Superbro is a great character with a lot of unexplored potential and it's really boring that he's getting thrown out in favour of Superdad who's already had 25 years worth of stories especially with Dan Jurgens and Peter Tomasi writing, the former who's been really average at best and the latter who has been loving awful with the Superman character. Tomasi was easily the worst part of Truth and Last Days of Superman is decompressed with a really flimsy premise that's been dragged out to 8 issues and not nearly enough story going on to justify it. I agree with all of this. I can also add that Truth was already pretty underwhelming but is a slap in the face how it ended with Superbro proving he's a hero with or without his powers and in general in the highest point of his career since Morrison ended his run just for the next arc going "LOL Nope" and making him terminally ill.
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# ? May 10, 2016 17:13 |
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Super bro may have great potential but if you have over 100 issues of stories without hitting anything interesting then I don't think it's gonna happen. Also i don't think Superdad has had that many stories unless you are counting else worlds?
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# ? May 10, 2016 17:16 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:Super bro may have great potential but if you have over 100 issues of stories without hitting anything interesting then I don't think it's gonna happen. American Alien, Pak's Batman Superman, Morrison's Action Comics, Taylor's small Batman Superman Arc doesn't count?
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# ? May 10, 2016 17:23 |
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Nope. Nothing particularly interesting that made Superman stand out. Some of those stories were fine, but I don't think they required SuperBro. But that is because SuperBro wasn't really a new character but more like a reset.
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# ? May 10, 2016 17:26 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:Super bro may have great potential but if you have over 100 issues of stories without hitting anything interesting then I don't think it's gonna happen. Superdad is literally pre-New 52 Superman, so everything since Crisis on Infinite Earths is him. I think that particular Superman is exactly what the New 52: Return to the 90s needs, personally. e: and American Alien is fine and cool but I didn't think that was the official in-continuity early years of new 52 Clark? Where did this appellation "SuperBro" come from, anyway?
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# ? May 10, 2016 17:26 |
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I feel like fundamentally SuperBro and Superdad are the same character at different points in their lives.
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# ? May 10, 2016 17:28 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:Nope. Nothing particularly interesting that made Superman stand out. Some of those stories were fine, but I don't think they required SuperBro. But that is because SuperBro wasn't really a new character but more like a reset. American Alien and Morrison's AC in particular doesn't work with Superdad's twenty-something years baggage. While Pak and Taylor build from the ground up the relationship between Bruce and Clark on their stories, offering a pretty different dynamic compared to that found in the pre FP stories.
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# ? May 10, 2016 17:29 |
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The reason I feel this way is because they are, by the way. Which is why I find this reaction puzzling. If you miss it that much just hope they release an adventure series that goes into the past adventures not covered before, boom done. CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 17:33 on May 10, 2016 |
# ? May 10, 2016 17:31 |
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American Alien is a Elseworld, isn't it? It doesn't matter what the baggage is. Also I'm honestly fine not following the adventures of Super Burns Off People's Arms And Gets Drunk Man but I'm way less impressed with AA than a lot of people.
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# ? May 10, 2016 17:42 |
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AA is also the only book listed were he felt semi distinct. But that was because Max only knows how to write like one character and it's basically him.
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# ? May 10, 2016 17:44 |
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AA is an Elseworld unless Jimmy Olsen died and was replaced by his black bastard son who changes their name to Jimmy Olson, Jr.
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# ? May 10, 2016 21:20 |
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Yeah, American Alien is definitely its own thing.
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# ? May 10, 2016 21:31 |
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Gerard Way Young Animal update with new art http://www.gerardway.com/post/144161604300/a-gentle-roar quote:We want to start giving weekly updates on the progress of the Young Animal books. This is the first. In these updates you will see art and commentary from the collaborators, editorial, and myself.
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# ? May 10, 2016 23:20 |
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Mr Hootington posted:If there is a superman who is pre-flashpoint running around, how hasn't he figured out the flashpoint junk and killed histories greatest monster Barry Allen? I think, as far as he's aware, this is just a new universe that's different from his and not his old universe that got hosed up because Barry wanted to hug his mom.
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# ? May 11, 2016 15:20 |
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Sya what you want about Lobdell, the man certainly has a sense of humor and a knack for irony. Not only he set up a vote to determinate if Roy survives, he went so far to include 01-800 and 52 references as well. Overall, issue 12 was great. Everything set up through the bulk of JD's arc neatly came together, is obvious that unlike RHATO's final arc Lobdell had more time (and knowledge) to set a satisfactory ending in advance. Of course there will be certain degree of comic book bullshit involved but that cames with the territory. The mention of Roy's knack for making impossible things possible lends me to believe there will be a soft reboot involved in the way Jason and Roy will go their separate ways, likely a situation where Roy/everyone's memories will be altered. I dunno, I'm just spitballing here. As long they don't retcon all of Jason and Roy friendship I'm satisfied. Over the five (nearly six) years N52 was a thing, I really grew to love their dynamic and I'm very sad this is their final team up in the foreseable future. That being said, I appreciate DC got a pretty decent artist to finish the series See DC? Isnt too hard to make featureless helmet look good. This page alluding to previous events was fantastic, specially because it has the original Outlaws. This Jason is kind of creeping me out. In any case, I hope Lobdell can stick the landing in the next issue. Until then this will be a long, long month.
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# ? May 11, 2016 19:59 |
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Ooh. Mystery one-shot.
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# ? May 12, 2016 01:10 |
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Wonder if it ties into the Lumberjanes/Gotham Academy book. Or maybe into one of the August Rebirth titles (Batgirl?).
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# ? May 12, 2016 01:17 |
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It'll be a Deathstroke crossover, for sure.
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# ? May 12, 2016 01:39 |
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Two Tone Shoes posted:I think, as far as he's aware, this is just a new universe that's different from his and not his old universe that got hosed up because Barry wanted to hug his mom. I've only read N52 super sparsely, what happened to Rip Hunter? Has he been around? Seems like he fell down on the job hard.
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# ? May 12, 2016 06:48 |
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He came out of Flashpoint reborn as Hip Runter, and led the Time Runters. Sadly 'Runter's Runters' was shelved when Charles Soule signed with Marvel.
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# ? May 12, 2016 07:34 |
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:That being said, I appreciate DC got a pretty decent artist to finish the series "GOTHAM CITY HIGH SCHOOL: NOT THE FIRST TIME A DREAM HAS COME HERE TO DIE" is the most asinine, bizarre introduction for a place.
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# ? May 12, 2016 09:30 |
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Jack of Hearts posted:I've only read N52 super sparsely, what happened to Rip Hunter? Has he been around? Seems like he fell down on the job hard. He was erased from existence and Booster Gold was rebooted into generic Canadian.
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# ? May 12, 2016 11:42 |
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X-O posted:I don't think he's dying, I think he's losing his powers and just becoming Clark Kent while the Pre-N52 Superman who has been living on N52 Earth since Convergence becomes the actual Superman.
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# ? May 12, 2016 13:28 |
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Mr Hootington posted:He was erased from existence and Booster Gold was rebooted into generic Canadian. "I really wasn't joking about solidified time, guys." -- R.I.P. Hunter
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# ? May 12, 2016 14:06 |
A man who guns down a mental patient have no right to criticize others for having "homicidal impulses".
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# ? May 12, 2016 18:48 |
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Alhazred posted:A man who guns down a mental patient have no right to criticize others for having "homicidal impulses". Lol wait. Did he end up killing Jokers Daughter?
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# ? May 12, 2016 18:53 |
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Alhazred posted:A man who guns down a mental patient have no right to criticize others for having "homicidal impulses". Norns posted:Lol wait. Did he end up killing Jokers Daughter? She's alive Dark_Tzitzimine fucked around with this message at 19:08 on May 12, 2016 |
# ? May 12, 2016 19:05 |
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:She's alive Well I guess I have to retract my nomination for Lobdell to get an Eisner then
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# ? May 12, 2016 21:15 |
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The Legend of Wonder Woman is so loving good. I have nitpicked and I will always nitpick but it's basically the Wonder Woman book of my dreams.
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# ? May 12, 2016 21:40 |
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Wonder Woman interview with Rucka, Liam Sharp and Nicola Scott. http://www.newsarama.com/29250-rebirth-wonder-woman-is-6-2-strong-striking-all-woman.html quote:Newsarama: Greg, what can you say about the unspecified “unimaginable loss” that kick starts this new volume of Wonder Woman? Flash interview with some art. http://www.newsarama.com/29254-flash-rebirth-to-turn-wally-west-into-kid-flash.html quote:Newsarama: Josh, we've been told that Rebirth gets the DC characters back to their core. What would you say is the most important part of Barry Allen that you're hoping to highlight as you kick off your run with a new #1?
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# ? May 12, 2016 22:56 |
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Barry is dragging a lot of silly string and or webbing with him it seems. Also turn Barry into a new Parallax and have him try Zero Hour again. If he's gonna be trying to be everywhere trying to do EVERYTHING, which wasn't that Superman's thing, you might as well slowly turn him into Parallax and have Hal Parallax team up with him. Then they can attempt Zero Hour^2! Jiro fucked around with this message at 00:31 on May 13, 2016 |
# ? May 13, 2016 00:28 |
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Jiro posted:Barry is dragging a lot of silly string and or webbing with him it seems. Par-Hal-lax and Barrallax.
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# ? May 13, 2016 00:51 |
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Sounds like kingdom come flash.
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# ? May 13, 2016 01:06 |