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Hollismason posted:Any tips on Defeating Demogorgon would be appreciated. Is he immune to +4 weapons? Get every melee character you have on him, pop whirlwind with them, and beat him down as fast as possible. Ignore his summons. He'll just keep summoning more and more, so the fight is really all about dpsing him down asap. I can't remember if he dispels but if not death ward should protect you against his gaze I would think, and if not if you can find some potions of mirrored eyes I believe those would work also. e: Got SCS working and playing on Core Rules. Decided to opt against allowing enemies short term prebuffing since that would just turn the game into me having to hulk up before every single caster fight and probably have to cheese to get rid of their protections and that's boring so just gave them the improved AI instead. Rolling with: Cavalier Jaheira Khalid Imoen Viconia Neera Tempted to replace Vicky with Rasaad since I haven't used him before but undecided. I could just have Khalid die but that feels cheesy to me so I don't usually do that. He's not all that bad anyways properly geared out. Can't wait to have my Cavalier kitted out with fire prot ring/helm of defense and spider's bane though. Tard in, spam web/fireball, profit. Ginette Reno fucked around with this message at 17:20 on May 10, 2016 |
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Ginette Reno posted:Get every melee character you have on him, pop whirlwind with them, and beat him down as fast as possible. Ignore his summons. He'll just keep summoning more and more, so the fight is really all about dpsing him down asap. I can't remember if he dispels but if not death ward should protect you against his gaze I would think, and if not if you can find some potions of mirrored eyes I believe those would work also. I don't know he's getting things like dire charm etc.. I need to buff up vs fire , Magic Resistance etc.. Looks like he does blunting damage.
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May 10, 2016 17:17
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Hollismason posted:I don't know he's getting things like dire charm etc.. I need to buff up vs fire , Magic Resistance etc.. Looks like he does blunting damage. Really you just have to get your melee in range of him and pop whirlwind and he should go down very quickly. It looks like you have 5 characters that can melee and melee well so if they all pop that in concert it should be like a prison beat down.
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May 10, 2016 17:22
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Yeah I have Minsc and Keldorn with it along with my main I'll try that.
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May 10, 2016 17:54
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Against Demogorgon, the big thing is Breach, Whirlwinds, and Improved Haste. Anyone who can make at least 4 APR before buffs should be prebuffed with Improved Haste. Anyone who can't should Whirlwind every single round. Either Anomen should summon a Deva, or Imoen should summon a Planetar to join in the fun. Watch Demogorgon for contingencies that put up PfMW, Stoneskin, Mantles, or Absolute Immunity and make sure Imoen Breaches that poo poo immediately. Ignore any enemies that aren't him until after he dies. Barring some unfortunate disaster, this should result in a total curbstomp and he won't be able to get a spell off.
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May 10, 2016 18:21
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Hollismason posted:Yeah I have Minsc and Keldorn with it along with my main Jaheira and Anomen can also melee pretty well with proper armor/buffs. Especially Jaheira, Ironskins is a really, really good spell.
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May 10, 2016 18:22
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Fuuuuuuuuuuckkk I cannot beat this Demigorgon guy, maybe should wait till I am higher level. Just seriously cannot loving do nothing. Whirlwind Attacks , Greater Hastes, nothing.
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May 10, 2016 22:06
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Breach. He uses combat protections. Keep breaching.
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May 10, 2016 22:09
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Suspicious posted:Breach. He uses combat protections. Keep breaching. Without two casters casting breach and other dispels it's pretty hard to take down guys with protections. Pause a lot and watch the combat log, and keep hitting him with ruby ray, breach, that offensive dispel etc. Do you have a guy with use any item? Maybe go get carsomyr too.
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May 10, 2016 23:01
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drat I did not think to use Casomyr and other's that dispelled on hit. I went ahead and moved into Chapter 7 so hopefully I'll be able to go back there later.
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May 10, 2016 23:18
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I always just cheese him with traps.
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May 11, 2016 00:21
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Wow, that was a pretty cool loving ending and now THRONE OF BHAAL. edit : Minsc running around with the +5 Club of Detonation and the +5 Star Mace dual wielding and whirlwind is hillllaaarrrious. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 04:17 on May 11, 2016 |
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May 11, 2016 01:18
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If the summons are causing you problems send in a mordenkainen's sword first to draw them away. His summons only deal physical damage so they can't kill it, and it can tank them until it expires. That should be enough time for you to beat down Demogorgon. From memory a couple of imp. hasted planetars have enough DPS to kill him, so your five meleers should be enough assuming they're high enough level to be getting HLAs.
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May 11, 2016 08:28
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Valygar my sister and my girlfriend are arcane spellcasters and are standing right next to you, stop insulting magic. Also you're a Ranger and thus a divine spellcaster, get off your high horse. Is he also like this if Charname is an arcane caster?
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May 11, 2016 12:52
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Yes, but cut the guy some slack, he's lived his whole life knowing his insane necromancer uncle will be coming to suck out his soul one day.
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May 11, 2016 14:43
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Mzbundifund posted:Yes, but cut the guy some slack, he's lived his whole life knowing his insane necromancer uncle will be coming to suck out his soul one day. Plus there's what happened to his parents...
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May 11, 2016 14:54
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Kavak posted:EDIT: Huh, the town criers messages change every few days. That's actually really neat, I wish more games had stuff like that tied to the clock rather than the story. I love the subplot about a (possibly) Bhaalspawn ogre mage loving poo poo up in Tethyr. Vichan fucked around with this message at 14:57 on May 11, 2016 |
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May 11, 2016 14:54
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Vichan posted:I love the subplot about a (possibly) Bhaalspawn ogre mage loving poo poo up in Tethyr. Probably not Bhaalspawn. He's part of Amn's background lore and story, causing problems in Amn and Tethyr.
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May 11, 2016 17:02
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what is baldur's gate 3 going to be are we going to gently caress up some (more) gods? e: it would be amazing to gallop through the heavens murdering gods while your clerics get weaker because the gods that give them power are dead
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May 11, 2016 17:04
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Mortimer posted:what is baldur's gate 3 going to be From the sounds of it Baldur's Gate 3 will be either Dragonlance game 1 or Darksun game 1. I'd prefer the latter significantly. Also the greater wolfweres on the island in BG1 are some hardcore bullshit.
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May 11, 2016 17:40
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Terrible Opinions posted:From the sounds of it Baldur's Gate 3 will be either Dragonlance game 1 or Darksun game 1. I'd prefer the latter significantly. What, really? Dark sun infinity engine game would make me so amazingly happy. But psionics are not implemented and they would have to make major changes for that so I'd say chances are slim, much more likely to see Dragonlance if you had to pick one of the two but who knows about licensing.
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May 11, 2016 17:47
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Terrible Opinions posted:Also the greater wolfweres on the island in BG1 are some hardcore bullshit. I've just gone through that and it's actually kinda nice to know that other people think they're bullshit too - I assumed I was just terrible.
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May 11, 2016 18:19
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Terrible Opinions posted:From the sounds of it Baldur's Gate 3 will be either Dragonlance game 1 or Darksun game 1. I'd prefer the latter significantly. What? Where is the evidence for this? A dark sun game would be incredible.
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May 11, 2016 19:15
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mitochondritom posted:What? Where is the evidence for this? A dark sun game would be incredible. The only thing I've ever heard about it is completely rumor and speculation.
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May 11, 2016 20:05
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Terrible Opinions posted:Also the greater wolfweres on the island in BG1 are some hardcore bullshit. There's only 1 greater wolfwere on the island. Everything else can be killed with any +1 stuff.
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May 11, 2016 21:46
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Suspicious posted:There's only 1 greater wolfwere on the island. Everything else can be killed with any +1 stuff. I'm 100% certain that the guy that sets an ambush for you at the south of the map, Palin, was Greater Wolfwere.
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May 11, 2016 22:25
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No, because I use mass arrows to feather his rear end every single time.
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May 11, 2016 22:28
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Suspicious posted:There's only 1 greater wolfwere on the island. Everything else can be killed with any +1 stuff. Eh? One outside the town, I think there's at least two in the boat
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May 11, 2016 22:29
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Kavak posted:Also you're a Ranger and thus a divine spellcaster, get off your high horse. Someone who works with miracles is a ton more accepted in society than people who randomly summons a bunch of shotguns because they misplaced their old one.
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May 11, 2016 22:33
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Only Karoug requires cold iron weapons, and Mendas and his buddy back on the mainland. Everything else can be killed by any +1 stuff. I've done this on unmodded BG1EE. e: Even if you don't have cold iron weapons, you can still magic them to death. They're resistant, not immune.
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May 11, 2016 22:35
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possibly some level scaling? I certainly ran across more than one greater wolfwere on the island, and had to resort to hilarious tactics to kill them, since I had no cold iron.
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May 11, 2016 22:39
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I was playing on core rules and went there dead last in my ironman (check the thread!), but that was before SD came out. Enemies aren't supposed to scale in the first game.
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May 11, 2016 22:42
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kujeger posted:possibly some level scaling? I certainly ran across more than one greater wolfwere on the island, and had to resort to hilarious tactics to kill them, since I had no cold iron. I don't remember "cold iron", is that just +2? I could do some damage to Karoug (I think mostly from Varscona) but I couldn't overcome his regen until I just had Edwin dump his whole spellbook on him.
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May 11, 2016 22:54
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Suspicious posted:Only Karoug requires cold iron weapons, and Mendas and his buddy back on the mainland. Everything else can be killed by any +1 stuff. I've done this on unmodded BG1EE. I thought that also applied to the loup garou on the escape boat.
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May 11, 2016 23:41
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Mendas's girlfriend is indeed labeled Loup Garou but she's just as easy to kill as any werewolf. Every time I play the game I try to see if my melee characters wielding cold iron weapons can reach her before she dies. They never do. Anyway, yeah, sounds like Beamdog recently added some enemy scaling stuff.
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May 11, 2016 23:46
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Wow, it's really enjoyable to go through both of these games and get to Throne of Bhaal and just tear poo poo up. Oh are those Fire Giants? Lemme just do Whirlwind real quick. I want to do a evil play through, should I go for Blackguard ? Or maybe something else. I played Fighter/Thief this past time around.
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May 12, 2016 00:56
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Hollismason posted:Wow, it's really enjoyable to go through both of these games and get to Throne of Bhaal and just tear poo poo up. Oh are those Fire Giants? Lemme just do Whirlwind real quick. Evil Halfling barbarian can get some ridiculous saves with Defender of Easthaven and Human leather armor.
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May 12, 2016 01:59
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Suspicious posted:Only Karoug requires cold iron weapons, and Mendas and his buddy back on the mainland. Everything else can be killed by any +1 stuff. I've done this on unmodded BG1EE. Yeah, wands of paralyzation kill them easily.
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May 12, 2016 02:51
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I just replayed the island recently (BG1EE) and Palin was definitely a greater wolfwere - took me a lot of tries to kill him
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This is a new change because he definitely wasn't in early January in BG1EE, or in any other version of the game. BG1 is (well, was) static as gently caress. Level 1 or 10, every encounter is the same.
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