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homeowner 39 22.41%
renter 69 39.66%
stupid peace of poo poo 66 37.93%
Total: 174 votes
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Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Nude Bog Lurker posted:

Post THANK YOU BASED NAZ in this thread and Naz will destroy John Key.

Nobody in here has a tv pay attention

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edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

What the gently caress is a "tv?"

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

It's the naz you know. They jump up the naz. They were on top of the pops. You know the naz.

Ivor Biggun
Apr 30, 2003

A big "Fuck You!" from the Keyhole nebula

Lipstick Apathy
Omg Jordan dumped Fleur. I can't even.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Exclamation Marx posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh1nyb7UKRM

Can almost guarantee the MP he references is David Bennett
Would vote.

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006

Slavvy posted:

It's the naz you know. They jump up the naz. They were on top of the pops. You know the naz.

Top of the pops hasn't even been on for about 10 years gramps

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

oohhboy posted:

Squeezing the bottom like that isn't going to help people who actually need a house and live in it. It's all going to the top with cash buyers and investors making all the gains overseas or other wise. We need some serious disincentive for buying houses as an investment by trashing the returns and taking out the goal of raising equity. Breaking the land banks isn't going to help in the long term with land wasteful houses with no transport other than cars attached to it. We also need to sort out proper unmoveable minimums on apartments so they are liveable if we do build more with strong penalties for cutting even the smallest corner.

Selling all those state houses did nothing but throw the poorest into the expensive whims of the free market.

Well yea pretty much but you could do that by modifying existing legislation so that property investors can't claim the interest costs on the huge amounts of debt they're taking on as a tax deductible cost. One of the reasons property is so appealing is that interest-driven loss your company allocates out to you gives you a sweet tax refund year on year while the asset you bought keeps appreciating.

But yea, the point about transport is a huge issue too - Places like Hobsonville Point or Stonefields getting consented without rapid transit in place (or at least planned) does my head in.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Wandle Cax posted:

Top of the pops hasn't even been on for about 10 years gramps

I forgot that pop was still a thing.

Sticko
Nov 24, 2007
Outrageous Lumpwad

People on less than 200k a year don't deserve to own a house.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Butt Wizard posted:

Well yea pretty much but you could do that by modifying existing legislation so that property investors can't claim the interest costs on the huge amounts of debt they're taking on as a tax deductible cost. One of the reasons property is so appealing is that interest-driven loss your company allocates out to you gives you a sweet tax refund year on year while the asset you bought keeps appreciating.

But yea, the point about transport is a huge issue too - Places like Hobsonville Point or Stonefields getting consented without rapid transit in place (or at least planned) does my head in.

But...but hobsonville point is five minutes from the motorway! And ten minutes from NorthWest, the only wageslave destination you could possibly need!

The Rabbi T. White
Jul 17, 2008





Slavvy posted:

But...but hobsonville point is five minutes from the motorway! And ten minutes from NorthWest, the only wageslave destination you could possibly need!

Five minutes from the motorway that then takes you over an hour to get into the city from with any kind of traffic what-so-ever. But I'm sure it'd be great living there.

truther
Oct 22, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT THE BEARS
My desire to own a house in Auckland has been a god drat joke.

First I was naive (I guess) and saved up on Kiwisaver at 8% from Day 1.
Then Auckland prices started to get ridiculous so I decided to save a bit more and increase my deposit.
Then the prices became so ridiculous that I gave up altogether.
After being encouraged to buy I talked to a bank person who said it was completely doable.
Looked at options, made a budget and decided I can do this in like October when I leave my rental.

... and now this happens. I will be completely unable to buy a house instead of just being scared of debt, etc.

At least there are hourly Bachelor articles I guess...

Ivor Biggun
Apr 30, 2003

A big "Fuck You!" from the Keyhole nebula

Lipstick Apathy

truther posted:

At least there are hourly Bachelor articles I guess...

I think you're skipping over the feijoa section in your haste to get to the latest Batch goss.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/79825701/partner-ends-monster-feijoas-title-run

whiter than a Wilco show
Mar 30, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Here's an actual decent solution to a whole bunch of problems including overcrowding in Auckland - all government call centers and other non ministerial/face to face services should be relocated to provincial areas, and businesses should be incentivised to do the same. Government spending is decreased due to lower rent, employment opportunities are spread more evenly and local economies get a bit of a boost, staff living on cso wages can actually have a decent life, and a little pressure comes off AK.

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk

Infotainment! posted:

Here's an actual decent solution to a whole bunch of problems including overcrowding in Auckland - all government call centers and other non ministerial/face to face services should be relocated to provincial areas, and businesses should be incentivised to do the same. Government spending is decreased due to lower rent, employment opportunities are spread more evenly and local economies get a bit of a boost, staff living on cso wages can actually have a decent life, and a little pressure comes off AK.

That would probably be a great plan if it weren't for the fact that massive chunks of non-customer facing services are already outside of Auckland. IRD for example, are largely based in Hamilton and Palmerston North. StudyLink is Palmy and Lower Hutt. WINZ I'm not sure on but I think you largely get connected to local offices, which exist because they are also customer facing. Ministry HQ's are in Wellington obviously. The amount of staff you can feasibly move is much smaller than you think and likely won't make much of a difference.

whiter than a Wilco show
Mar 30, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

kris_b posted:

That would probably be a great plan if it weren't for the fact that massive chunks of non-customer facing services are already outside of Auckland. IRD for example, are largely based in Hamilton and Palmerston North. StudyLink is Palmy and Lower Hutt. WINZ I'm not sure on but I think you largely get connected to local offices, which exist because they are also customer facing. Ministry HQ's are in Wellington obviously. The amount of staff you can feasibly move is much smaller than you think and likely won't make much of a difference.

All of the various mbie departments are in Auckland with a few satellite support centers - that might only be 4-500 people but that's 4-500 people who need servicing so it increases exponentially, as the jobs ceeated for their needs in turn bring more people who need servicing. Govt alone wouldn't be enough, that's correct, and why there needs to be an incentive for private enterprise to follow suit.

Project M.A.M.I.L.
Apr 30, 2007

Older, balder, fatter...
Love the way the herald is written? Can't get enough of those great entertainment headlines? Have I got news for you!


http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/may/11/new-zealand-one-major-newspaper-group-merger-talks-revealed

[b]"New Zealand could be left with just one major newspaper group as merger talks revealed

Companies that own New Zealand Herald and Dominion Post could join forces, effectively leaving the country with a press monopoly

Two major media companies in New Zealand have announced they are in merger talks, raising the prospect that the entire country could be left with just one newspaper group.

NZME, which owns the New Zealand Herald, and Fairfax Media, which owns the Dominion Post, said in a joint statement on Wednesday that the organisations were exploring how they could join forces."[b]

I love how one guy flat-put says it's just about making money and pleasing advertisers.

E. Also I have no idea how to quote an article or apparently even to make something bold when I post.

Firstscion
Apr 11, 2008

Born Lucky

kris_b posted:

That would probably be a great plan if it weren't for the fact that massive chunks of non-customer facing services are already outside of Auckland. IRD for example, are largely based in Hamilton and Palmerston North. StudyLink is Palmy and Lower Hutt. WINZ I'm not sure on but I think you largely get connected to local offices, which exist because they are also customer facing. Ministry HQ's are in Wellington obviously. The amount of staff you can feasibly move is much smaller than you think and likely won't make much of a difference.

NZ posts central hub is in palmy as well.

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

You gotta close your [b] tags, like this
code:
What happened for forums user [b]NineBreakr[/b]?

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Midget Fist posted:

Love the way the herald is written? Can't get enough of those great entertainment headlines? Have I got news for you!


http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/may/11/new-zealand-one-major-newspaper-group-merger-talks-revealed

[b]"New Zealand could be left with just one major newspaper group as merger talks revealed

Companies that own New Zealand Herald and Dominion Post could join forces, effectively leaving the country with a press monopoly

Two major media companies in New Zealand have announced they are in merger talks, raising the prospect that the entire country could be left with just one newspaper group.

NZME, which owns the New Zealand Herald, and Fairfax Media, which owns the Dominion Post, said in a joint statement on Wednesday that the organisations were exploring how they could join forces."[b]

I love how one guy flat-put says it's just about making money and pleasing advertisers.

E. Also I have no idea how to quote an article or apparently even to make something bold when I post.

The gently caress is a dominion post sounds like some sort of victorian age courier service gtfo and show me naz.

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


Midget Fist posted:

E. Also I have no idea how to quote an article or apparently even to make something bold when I post.

Click on the little BBcode link in your post preview.

Vulpes
Nov 13, 2002

Well, shit.
I'd still prefer the Herald over loving Stuff. I have never seen such a septic shitpile of terrible writing and worse editing.

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

Allied Press is our only hope. Publishers of such great papers as the Timaru Herald, The Otago Daily Times, Greymouth Star and whatever the gently caress the one in Queenstown is called.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
Just have all the journalists killed, John Key. It's easier than organising these buyouts.

Jacobin
Feb 1, 2013

by exmarx

Varkk posted:

Allied Press is our only hope. Publishers of such great papers as the Timaru Herald, The Otago Daily Times, Greymouth Star and whatever the gently caress the one in Queenstown is called.

Just before I was leaving they had set a plan for an insanely expensive (given what it is) online paywall for the ODT I havent seen how thats progressed since

Project M.A.M.I.L.
Apr 30, 2007

Older, balder, fatter...

Vulpes posted:

I'd still prefer the Herald over loving Stuff. I have never seen such a septic shitpile of terrible writing and worse editing.

Stuff is like the Daily Mail for NZ except it's NZ so infinitely more dull and terrible.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Slavvy posted:

But...but hobsonville point is five minutes from the motorway! And ten minutes from NorthWest, the only wageslave destination you could possibly need!

I am moving to what pretty much that area and I am dreading commuting into the city. I was miffed that there was no dedicated busway or LRT as part of the NW motorway development but now I'm close to ballistic.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Don't worry when the tunnel linking the SW and NW is built all your traffic worries will disappear overnight.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
I just take the train from Papatoetoe to Greenlane, then walk ten minutes. Then again, I chose my flat with public transport in mind, sooooo...

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


AUT's performances on University Challenge are the best TV I've seen in ages. It's like someone that hates AUT wrote it as a sketch.

Nude Bog Lurker
Jan 2, 2007
Fun Shoe


if only we hadn't aborted new plymouth and 500,000 kiwi battlers

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
How about we -And I'm just shooting from the top of my head here- make it possible for people to afford having children in the first place? Perhaps we could persuade businesses to increase their rate of pay, and cover the extra expense with higher taxes on people with lots of money?

'Nah bro not my fault you're poor hehurhehurhehur'

Anomalous Blowout
Feb 13, 2006

rock
ice
storm
abyss



It makes no attempt to sound human. It is atoms and stars.

*
Well I agree with that ad on one thing, it's convinced me we should stop aborting puppies.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



As an Aucklander I agree.

What a tragedy if those cities just disappeared.

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk
"There are no unwanted babies!"

Turns out there's about half a million of them.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



A few months ago, I told the New Zealand people there were no unwanted babies. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
I like how there's no citation for abortion numbers. And how it implies abortion is legal.

Jacobin
Feb 1, 2013

by exmarx

Ghostlight posted:

A few months ago, I told the New Zealand people there were no unwanted babies. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not.

actual LOL here

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

It's seriously embarrassing that abortion is 'illegal' still. Yeah no political party is gonna touch that giant shitpile but our current regime has some really awful consequences, especially for south islanders/rural locations.

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Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Nude Bog Lurker posted:



if only we hadn't aborted new plymouth and 500,000 kiwi battlers

Oh fuuuck ooooooffffffff

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