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Basebf555 posted:Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I almost rented it On Demand like two weeks ago before I knew it was coming to Netflix. I'll definitely be watching it tonight though. That happens to me all the time because I no longer trust that Netflix will get good movies. Ohh. I would definitely say check it out.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Ohh. I would definitely say check it out. It was right on the borderline for me and if it were a $4 rental and not $7, I'd probably have pulled the trigger. That is how my crazy cheap-rear end mind works I guess. I did risk the $7 for Baskin, and that turned out to be the right decision 100%.
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Basebf555 posted:It was right on the borderline for me and if it were a $4 rental and not $7, I'd probably have pulled the trigger. That is how my crazy cheap-rear end mind works I guess. To be fair $7 is a lot for a rental, I don't think you're cheap for it at all.
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A Spider Covets posted:To be fair $7 is a lot for a rental, I don't think you're cheap for it at all. I LOVE movies though, its probably my #1 hobby(if sitting on your rear end watching something someone else created can be considered a hobby). So to quibble over a difference of $3 seems illogical to me, but yet I do it. The $7 rentals are typically foreign/indie stuff like Baskin and They Look Like People, so to spend a few extra bucks to support those kind of films wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
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A Spider Covets posted:I really enjoyed the last scene. God, that was so intense! And I was so surprised when it didn't go down the usual horror route. Having the protagonist's friend survive in the face of all that danger, so close to him, really made the ending for me. The movie basically relies on the audience having certain expectations about how a particular scenario typically plays out in horror films. Every tense scene works because we're playing out all the possible outcomes in our minds. "Oh god he's about to hack his friend in the neck with that axe! Oh no don't remove the paper sack he's really a monster!"
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X-Ray Pecs posted:Scanners feels a bit clunky overall, but it's worth watching for the head explosion scene, Ironside's Revok, and inspiring the plot of several great video games.
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May 11, 2016 22:15
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SaavikSpocksDaddy posted:Shudder's Movie Mayhem series has The House by the Cemetery, The Baby, and The Cat O' Nine Tails. Which would you recommend the most out of the three? House by the Cemetery is pretty good, not top tier Fulci but just below. It does have one of the most obnoxiously dubbed kid voices in a movie ever, though. The Baby is just a weird loving movie and worth watching for that. Cat O'Nine Tails I honestly don't remember much about and Stagefright loving rules, the best of this group easily.
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May 12, 2016 02:05
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Surprised more people aren't talking up Dead Ringers (which is my fav Cronenberg movie). I watched that with Zoo and the movies are like odd mirrors of each other. Also I could barely get through his Crash. It wasn't bad in the least, it just seemed to take a lot of his body horror themes and make them...real. Just really uncomfortable throughout.
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May 12, 2016 03:11
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alansmithee posted:Surprised more people aren't talking up Dead Ringers (which is my fav Cronenberg movie). I watched that with Zoo and the movies are like odd mirrors of each other. I'm intrigued where this could go. Explain.
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May 12, 2016 03:17
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Ava's Possessions wasn't really scary, but it was something fresh and kind of funny. An interesting take on the aftermath of demonic possession.
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Cronenberg's evolution as a director is really interesting, even though his newer stuff can be fairly hit or miss for me. The Brood is my far and away favorite of his, but eXistenz has really grown on me recently for its humor. I was really disappointed by his book Consumed though. Some people felt it was a return to form, but I thought it was more of a regression.
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Wilhelm Scream posted:House by the Cemetery is pretty good, not top tier Fulci but just below. It does have one of the most obnoxiously dubbed kid voices in a movie ever, though. The Baby is just a weird loving movie and worth watching for that. Cat O'Nine Tails I honestly don't remember much about and Stagefright loving rules, the best of this group easily. Oh gently caress, I watched The Baby on shudder the other night it was so odd it felt to me like a tales from the crypt episode or something with the ending. I really need to use Shudder more it's just such a pain in the rear end casting from my phone or computer to my TV......
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Wilhelm Scream posted:House by the Cemetery is pretty good, not top tier Fulci but just below. It does have one of the most obnoxiously dubbed kid voices in a movie ever, though. The Baby is just a weird loving movie and worth watching for that. Cat O'Nine Tails I honestly don't remember much about and Stagefright loving rules, the best of this group easily. I ended up watching Stagefright and I thought it was terrific. The owl mask was wonderful and there were some great kills. I loved the actual musical bits where we'd see parts of the play like the beginning. The story had a lot more semblance than most giallos, it was really well-done. Have you seen The Church? I didn't realize the director of Stagefright did Cemetery Man as well
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May 12, 2016 07:23
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SaavikSpocksDaddy posted:Stagefright Maybe one of my favorite trailers ever. Downright weird and messy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs7PHsWzvwE
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May 12, 2016 07:43
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SaavikSpocksDaddy posted:Another highlight for me recently was The Battery. It was a really refreshing take on the zombie films and the scene where one of them dashes out of the sunroof and we're left waiting in the car for him to return is one of the most effective and agonizing scenes I've seen in a horror film yet. quote:The Forest and Sinister Part 2 were both boring to me. I liked some aspects in both but Sinister, especially, fell flat. The home movies were frightening and creative to me - the alligator in the swamp and the rats in the church - but the Baghuul(?) is such a silly design and so were the ghost children. I wanted to like it because I like Sossman and the guy from The Wire. Is it worth seeing the first Sinister?
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May 12, 2016 10:03
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Watched Clown last night. It started out really cool with a really fresh premise, but ended kind of limply for me. Don't regret watching it, just wish it had been edited a little tighter - the last 1/3 drags on a bit.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I'm intrigued where this could go. Explain. Granted, it's been awhile since I watched them but I recall being struck how it seemed like reversals of each other. In Dead Ringers, you have twins who at the start of the film are so wrapped up in each other that they essentially share one life and constantly impersonate each other. In Zoo, the start of the film sees both twins who are close, but are obviously distinct individuals. Dead Ringers, the twins are gynecologists who specialize in fertility-in taking what is "dead" and creating life, the twins in Zoo (as zoologists) start off taking care of and observing vital, living animals and become obsessed with watching the life leave them to the point they film decomposition. Also both end up pivoting around a woman-in Dead Ringers the two doctors end up actually starting to operate more as individuals as one ends up emotionally involved with a woman and doesn't want to "share" anymore, whereas in Zoo the twins, after their wives die, both end up involved with and sharing the same woman. And of course the women play central roles and in their own ways seem opposite-on one hand you have the actress in Dead Ringers who had a trifulcated (sp?) cervix (I'm not sure if that's a real thing, but I remember at the time it gave me the impression that she was "too" woman, had extra parts), whereas the focus of attention in Zoo is being cut up and being made less of a woman. Then the endings, one (dead ringers) with the explosion of death stopping the doctors from regaining their old, shared life and Zoo with the explosion of life stopping them in their quest for shared death. I think there was more stuff I noticed, but those are just some of the impressions I remember.
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sticklefifer posted:I've been noticing this trend a lot especially in indie horror - the long as hell take with rising tension while you're waiting for something to happen for like 10 minutes. Willow Creek and The Interior both did similar things. Well if that is a trend(I haven't noticed it myself), it was certainly inspired by that famous jump scare in Exorcist III. I don't need to post it for the 1000th time do I? Just kidding, of course I was going to post it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NKhJ5D8trI
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alansmithee posted:Long story short, Dead Ringers has a one life splits into two/death-life-death pattern, whereas Zoo has a two lives merge into one/life-death-life pattern. Bahaha. I was thinking of, uh, the other Zoo. I see exactly what you mean, though.
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SubG posted:Phantasm (1979) was there for a long time, but it seems to be getting more consideration/discussion lately, after decades of that weird semi-obscurity that classic but out of favour genre films end up in. Phantasm never really "fell out of favour" as much as it was always an outsider film. Phantasm is to horror movies what Frank Zappa is to rock music.
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InfiniteZero posted:Phantasm never really "fell out of favour" as much as it was always an outsider film. Phantasm is to horror movies what Frank Zappa is to rock music. drat, that's a killer metaphor. It also works with the tonal shift from Phantasm to Phantasm II.
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SaavikSpocksDaddy posted:I ended up watching Stagefright and I thought it was terrific. The owl mask was wonderful and there were some great kills. I loved the actual musical bits where we'd see parts of the play like the beginning. The story had a lot more semblance than most giallos, it was really well-done. Have you seen The Church? I didn't realize the director of Stagefright did Cemetery Man as well The Church is okay, It's been a good 10-15 years since I've seen it but I remember being pretty underwhelmed by it. It's supposed to be the third Demons movie but it's not nearly as great as Demons or goofy as Demons 2.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Bahaha. I was thinking of, uh, the other Zoo. I see exactly what you mean, though. Hahahaha
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I'm intrigued where this could go. Explain. I was gonna say I'm pretty sure he means A Zed and Two Naughts but I see he already explained. I'd love to see somebody try it with the other movie though. Zoo (1999) and Dead Ringer (1964) c'mon someone who's seen both InfiniteZero posted:With regards to architecture specifically, I think the fact that he embraced the brutalist architecture that was popular in Canada/Toronto in the 70s is a lot of the reason for that. I thought that Villeneuve's Enemy expertly did the same thing in order to give the whole film a huge Cronenberg vibe. He makes Canada look like some kind of nightmare-USSR DeimosRising fucked around with this message at 19:02 on May 12, 2016 |
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DeimosRising posted:He makes Canada look like some kind of nightmare-USSR I'm one of the 11 people who actually really likes brutalist architecture. A while back I mentioned Just Before Dawn and nobody bit. It's such a perfect slasher film: it's legitimately scary, it's got a twist that explains how the person doing the slashing can be in two places at once (twins!) and one of the stars is also in Body Double (aka "the perfect movie"). Note however that it may be extra scary for me because I feel that I'm about to be eaten by a bear/cannibals if I'm more than 10 minutes outside the city ("the deep woods"). The soundtrack is also dope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uloZ0A6GhAM
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InfiniteZero posted:Phantasm never really "fell out of favour" as much as it was always an outsider film. Phantasm is to horror movies what Frank Zappa is to rock music.
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SubG posted:it's really just been in the past couple years that it's become one of those films that's a regular part of the discourse again. TV ads for Fangoria in the 80s had Angus Scrimm playing the Tall Man (verifying your claim that it was heavily in the consciousness at the time) ...  But magazines like Rue Morgue had cover stories about Phantasm running 9 years ago too ...  Even the sequel wasn't released until the late 80s and then a bunch more came out through the 90s, so it was definitely in the consciousness. The DVD releases were a big deal too and there was even the set that came in a silver ball. I remember for a long time that Phantasm II was only available on import or in that set. I don't think Phantasm ever really faded. I think it was always just a film and a series that was especially loved by "weirdos". It is getting extra attention now (it's the cover story once again on Rue Morgue this very month!) but a lot of that is for the unfortunate reason that we lost Scrimm.
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I hate that Phantasm isn't on blu ray. I assume there's some problem with the rights otherwise Shout Factory would have put it out a long time ago. Phantasm II is great and all but it seems pointless to own it without the original.
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Basebf555 posted:I hate that Phantasm isn't on blu ray. I assume there's some problem with the rights otherwise Shout Factory would have put it out a long time ago. Phantasm II is great and all but it seems pointless to own it without the original. Bad Robot is restoring it in 4k
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DeimosRising posted:I was gonna say I'm pretty sure he means A Zed and Two Naughts but I see he already explained. I'd love to see somebody try it with the other movie though. Yeah I'd seen it billed before as peter greenaway's "zoo" in some stuff I read and I'd seen other people refer to it as such so i thought that's what most dudes knew it by. Although now I'm tempted to check out the other Zoo movie and see what I can piece together.
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Hat Thoughts posted:Bad Robot is restoring it in 4k More than that actually. Coscarelli is "fixing the effects" ala George Lucas. Not sure how I feel about that. In the new Rue Morgue, Coscarelli talks about removing wires, camera reflections, and production stuff like a bucket that accidentally got into a shot. Not a huge deal, but Phantasm doesn't really need to be "fixed". He also mentions adding some new sound effects. No word yet on if JJ Abrams will convince him to add lens flares shooting out from the spheres ...
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I really can't even think of any effects that would need to be changed, were there any visible wires on the spheres? I suppose maybe not before but now that they're doing it in 4k some touching up may be necessary. As long as he doesn't add any new effects I'm ok with it. The finale where we finally see the Tall Man's world is absolutely perfect as is.
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May 12, 2016 21:14
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I really need to re-sub to Rue Morgue.
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Basebf555 posted:I really can't even think of any effects that would need to be changed, were there any visible wires on the spheres? Screenshots of the restoration look like they heavily applied DNR so as you suggested, you can probably see them quite easily in 4k. Restoration screenshot: 
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InfiniteZero posted:But magazines like Rue Morgue had cover stories about Phantasm running 9 years ago too ... InfiniteZero posted:I don't think Phantasm ever really faded. I think it was always just a film and a series that was especially loved by "weirdos". It is getting extra attention now (it's the cover story once again on Rue Morgue this very month!) but a lot of that is for the unfortunate reason that we lost Scrimm. Like I think you could make the comparison with a film like Altman's Popeye (1980), although it was much more popular (in the sense of being seen) when it was released (being the 12th highest grossing film of 1980) and went into greater relative obscurity (spending many years effectively unavailable in any format).
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I know SubG is right cuz my parents know about Phantasm, that's the test. The other reason I think SubG is right is because he is the poster SubG.
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I'm sure a part of it was that Coscarelli went on to direct absolutely nothing of note outside the Phantasm franchise for about 20 years until Bubba Hotep in 2002. If he had anything resembling a hit in that time maybe more people would have gone back and found an appreciation for Phantasm.
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Basebf555 posted:I'm sure a part of it was that Coscarelli went on to direct absolutely nothing of note outside the Phantasm franchise for about 20 years until Bubba Hotep in 2002. If he had anything resembling a hit in that time maybe more people would have gone back and found an appreciation for Phantasm. I mean if you look at just 1985, alongside Re-Animator you have The Stuff and Lifeforce and The Return of the Living Dead (and I'm not going to list all of the sequels, like the second Nightmare on Elm Street film, Romero's third Dead film, one of the Friday the 13th sequels, and so on). Pretty much all of these are films that any genre-savvy filmgoer would have been aware of. The way, say, anyone reading this thread will be aware of a film like It Follows (2014). But if you look at the trajectory of these films following that period of familiarity after their original release, they take (at least, subjectively, to me) very different paths. Like none of them have exactly lapsed into being lost films or anything like that, but e.g. right now I'd expect The Stuff to be almost as familiar to most people as Re-Animator (because of the Arrow release and surrounding discussion). But for years I just wouldn't have expected it to be as familiar. And Lifeforce is a film that I feel like isn't unknown or anything, but is something that's probably more familiar to InfiniteZero's `weirdos' than just average genre-watching viewers. If that distinction makes sense.
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Candy Dawn posted:Ava's Possessions wasn't really scary, but it was something fresh and kind of funny. An interesting take on the aftermath of demonic possession. I'm trying to make it through the first 20 minutes. It's difficult. Hopefully it gets better.
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