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BallsFalls
Oct 18, 2013

jm20 posted:

quote:

:words:
"There have been no fiercer critics of subsidies to the media than the Toronto Sun and the National Post," Vaughan said of two of Postmedia's flagship papers.

Is this the same Sun Media that begged the CRTC to force cable and satellite to offer their lovely news channel as part of basic TV service or am I thinking of a different Canadian corporation using the name Sun Media?

e:

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

Christ would these guys just go bankrupt already. When is that loan payment they can make due anyways? September?

I'd like to know this as well so I can start planning the party when Postmedia finally dies

BallsFalls fucked around with this message at 20:40 on May 12, 2016

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The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

jm20 posted:

The Liberals on the committee were quick to accuse Godfrey of contradicting himself. Postmedia has been among the strongest critics of government spending on advertising, said Liberal MP Adam Vaughan.

"There have been no fiercer critics of subsidies to the media than the Toronto Sun and the National Post," Vaughan said of two of Postmedia's flagship papers. "How do you square your editorial position with your corporate position?"

:boom:

jm20 posted:

Godfrey responded by saying Postmedia columnists are given leeway to write articles that contradict their own company's positions on political and other issues.

Unless said articles happen to be endorsements for political parties.

Does take some gall to give the finger to the Liberals for the entire election campaign and then come back with hands outstretched later.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
If you guys like postmedia porn, thestar has this to say

quote:

Postmedia is encumbered with $497.5 million in debt. With total assets of $740.6 million against liabilities of $729.7 million — including its massive, U.S.-held debt — Postmedia’s liquidation value at the end of its latest fiscal year was only $10.9 million. That’s the value of a handful of McDonald’s franchises.


Take a gander at their slide deck's last page to see how bad they are doing YoY with revenue.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Instead of bankrolling Godfrey's unprofitable conservative propaganda network, the Liberals should just inject an equivalent amount of money into the CBC. Use it to poach away all Postmedia's journalists and copy writers. Just to gently caress with them.

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes
Yeah, can we get 24 hours a day of this please, http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/canada-twitter-pokemon-sun-and-moon-1.3575783

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

God you're tiresome.

If you want to do that gig go to UKMT and understudy Pissflaps for a bit.

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888
im glad postmedia bought out all the small local papers and are now going to hold them ransom for government welfare

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

RBC posted:

im glad postmedia bought out all the small local papers and are now going to hold them ransom for government welfare

It was the only way to make sure Canadians knew the horrible truth about the Left's international global "warming" hoax

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

The Butcher posted:

Does take some gall to give the finger to the Liberals for the entire election campaign and then come back with hands outstretched later.

The only moral welfare is my welfare.

Why would the Canadian government deliberately throw money away on ineffective advertising in a dying and outmoded medium? Blockbuster Video didn't show up with hat in hand asking for the Canadian government to pay them to rent out NFB tapes.

The largest benefit you get from newspapers these days is editorial, and Postmedia has been pretty clear about what kind of editorial they prefer to write - the kind I can get from Facebook groups and comment sections on existing CBC news articles. If some of the Canadaland podcasts are to be believed, Postmedia's short-term strategy is to turn into a white boomer outrage machine - in other words, the Sun.

Local news is nice to have, but Postmedia has ruined the ability of their newsrooms in Calgary to gather local news and a ton of their headliner talent has fled to successful long-format national news magazines such as Macleans or to the provincial/federal governments. I am certain this is the case in all of their markets - if your local news strategy is to tell journalists to rewrite press releases instead of engage in expensive reporting, you're not going to retain the cream of the crop no matter how little you pay them or how heavy-handed your blocking of any attempts to unionize are.

Postmedia can't even make the jobs argument - they've already axed local printing of nearly all of their papers, costing hundreds of specialist jobs. This follows on the heels of many failed attempts to outsource copy-editing, centralize higher-paying web/software dev jobs and remove many other admin tasks. They are a layoff machine in the guise of a news organization.

Let 'em die. If you can have a monopoly, and it still isn't successful, it doesn't deserve to exist.

Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 22:38 on May 12, 2016

The Dark One
Aug 19, 2005

I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!
This guy is :qq:ing so hard, it's amazing.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/05/10/ontario-setting-new-rules-to-end-era-of-suburban-sprawl-across-gta.html

quote:

The man who represents one of the largest development industry groups in Canada wasted little time in criticizing Tuesday’s announcement, warning of bad news on the horizon for people living in the region.

“What this announcement means today is more intensification, more condos, more cranes, fewer housing choices for single-family dwellings,” said Bryan Tuckey, president of the Building Industry and Land Development Association (BILD). “The net effect will be higher housing prices across the board.”

Tuckey, who attended the announcement, says skyrocketing GTA home prices are the result of supply failing to meet demand, and that the province’s proposed new measures to curb sprawl by imposing zoning and land use requirements on municipalities will make things even worse.

He said further cuts to the supply of land to build single-family homes will cause prices to rise dramatically, even in an already overheated housing market.

BallsFalls
Oct 18, 2013

RBC posted:

im glad postmedia bought out all the small local papers and are now going to hold them ransom for government welfare

Those local papers already died when Godfrey sacked the employees and centralized the newsrooms

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888
They still exist. They are much smaller. There is a need for journalism in smaller cities. Not sure what point you are trying to make since you linked to an article that's about edmonton, calgary and ottawa. Those aren't the kind of cities I'm talking about. The sun papers are not the papers I'm talking about.

The journalist covering city hall in sault st marie is not jumping ship to macleans. Nor do you need the cream of the crop to report on whatever city councillors passed that night. You just need someone there that is getting paid and has professional standards.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Sure, there's a need, but let's be real: Postmedia didn't buy up all those local papers and they're not trying to hold onto them so they can do journalism. They did it so they could try to shape public opinion in Canada so that it would reflect their preferred ideology and get their preferred party elected.

Pixelante
Mar 16, 2006

You people will by God act like a team, or at least like people who know each other, or I'll incinerate the bunch of you here and now.

RBC posted:

The journalist covering city hall in sault st marie is not jumping ship to macleans. Nor do you need the cream of the crop to report on whatever city councillors passed that night. You just need someone there that is getting paid and has professional standards.

FWIW I went to journalism school in BC almost 10 years ago and most of my classmates would have shived someone for any job involving writing whatsoever. It was expected that you would have to "pay your dues" in some shithole town for a couple years minimum if you wanted the remotest shot at anything better than covering the local bake-sale in Terrace. I think a few people stayed the course. I went from video game news, to editing self-published trash, to volunteering in advocacy. "J-Schools" continue to churn out shiny grads every year.

Meanwhile, the first rumblings of discontent and rage over the rebuilding of Fort Mac have begun. Crowds Overwhelm Fort Mac Clean-up Jobs. Gonna be an interesting summer for Alberta.

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888

THC posted:

Sure, there's a need, but let's be real: Postmedia didn't buy up all those local papers and they're not trying to hold onto them so they can do journalism. They did it so they could try to shape public opinion in Canada so that it would reflect their preferred ideology and get their preferred party elected.

Of course they did. It's just played out so that they have control over, in many cases, the single newspaper in small cities, which still have a city hall beat reporter, sandwiched in between whatever generic editorial and AP reprints they fill the rest of the daily content with. In a lot of cases, that is the only thing keeping people reading the content. So now postmedia has a lot of assets that maybe are only important to local residents and have some cultural value, but aren't necessarily financially valuable. I'm not kidding when I say that was a ransom letter to the canadian government. It's their business plan.

BallsFalls
Oct 18, 2013
The corporate media doesn't buy up local news to support great local reporters, they buy them to control public opinion. You don't need to sack some schmo living in sault st marie covering the street or dissolve a local publication to do so, you just need to ensure you have a yes-man at some point in editing and vetting process.

This is the same corporation that had one of their top editorial minions - Andrew Coyne - resign over censorship. Do you think these local papers have the full liberty to discuss political matters in a way that doesn't toe the company's preferred line?

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
yeah man the media is totally controlling our minds because everyone is reading newspapers and listening to radio

:420::420::420: lmao :420::420::420:

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888

BallsFalls posted:

The corporate media doesn't buy up local news to support great local reporters, they buy them to control public opinion. You don't need to sack some schmo living in sault st marie covering the street or dissolve a local publication to do so, you just need to ensure you have a yes-man at some point in editing and vetting process.

This is the same corporation that had one of their top editorial minions - Andrew Coyne - resign over censorship. Do you think these local papers have the full liberty to discuss political matters in a way that doesn't toe the company's preferred line?

Did you read anything I wrote at all??

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Like I said, don't bail out Postmedia. gently caress 'em. Meanwhile, order the CBC to do more local programming and give them money. It would be worth it just to watch the conservatives' heads explode

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
After even Salomon, Amanda lang and jian you still want to give this poo poo nest more money

Lol gently caress you idiot

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

RBC posted:

Of course they did. It's just played out so that they have control over, in many cases, the single newspaper in small cities, which still have a city hall beat reporter, sandwiched in between whatever generic editorial and AP reprints they fill the rest of the daily content with. In a lot of cases, that is the only thing keeping people reading the content. So now postmedia has a lot of assets that maybe are only important to local residents and have some cultural value, but aren't necessarily financially valuable. I'm not kidding when I say that was a ransom letter to the canadian government. It's their business plan.

The future was always hyper local, Postmedia and the like are just too big to pivot towards it. lovely community newspapers for all!

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Cultural Imperial posted:

After even Salomon, Amanda lang and jian you still want to give this poo poo nest more money

Lol gently caress you idiot
Only as an alternative to giving the money to Postmedia! And mostly because it will piss off the Tories!

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Cultural Imperial posted:

After even Salomon, Amanda lang and jian you still want to give this poo poo nest more money

Lol gently caress you idiot

I'll take all of those if it'll bring back Under the Influence

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

TheKingofSprings posted:

I'll take all of those if it'll bring back Under the Influence

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/undertheinfluence

?

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
You're dumb as hell.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012



Cultural Imperial posted:

You're dumb as hell.


Sorry I keep missing it at work, I guess? :shrug:

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

apatheticman posted:

The future was always hyper local, Postmedia and the like are just too big to pivot towards it. lovely community newspapers for all!

Well, Gen X and Millennials are going to be hosed if they don't have newspapers to file obituaries and legally required notices to creditors when their parents kick off in the much anticipated Great Boomer Die-Off. This might require a (shudder) change to legislation.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

TheKingofSprings posted:

Sorry I keep missing it at work, I guess? :shrug:

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

Hexigrammus posted:

Well, Gen X and Millennials are going to be hosed if they don't have newspapers to file obituaries and legally required notices to creditors when their parents kick off in the much anticipated Great Boomer Die-Off. This might require a (shudder) change to legislation.

Or a hot start up idea.

Hootsuite for death.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

BallsFalls posted:

The corporate media doesn't buy up local news to support great local reporters, they buy them to control public opinion. You don't need to sack some schmo living in sault st marie covering the street or dissolve a local publication to do so, you just need to ensure you have a yes-man at some point in editing and vetting process.

This is the same corporation that had one of their top editorial minions - Andrew Coyne - resign over censorship. Do you think these local papers have the full liberty to discuss political matters in a way that doesn't toe the company's preferred line?

Postmedia bought other papers because they were (and are) a newspaper publisher and consolidation was the path the entire industry was taking.

Sometimes bad businesses are just bad businesses.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
Oh hey there was a forum today about corrections in Ontario (Ottawa).

Also here's a video about how the outsourcing of food services in jails impacts inmates / provides lovely value for taxpayers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PECAaf5bgYo

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

Jordan7hm posted:

Oh hey there was a forum today about corrections in Ontario (Ottawa).

Also here's a video about how the outsourcing of food services in jails impacts inmates / provides lovely value for taxpayers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PECAaf5bgYo

The conditions at the OCDC are deplorable, and it's horrendous that more isn't done. I get that a big part of the problem is the optics of giving perks to criminal thugs, but as I understand it, if not a majority then surely a significant number of people at the jail haven't even been convicted of anything. They've only been charged and are awaiting trial.

Bringing this topic up usually generates the same reply, "If you don't want to endure the conditions in prison, don't commit crimes! :smug: " It's frustrating that, on one hand, there is demand for change in the corrections system, and we seem to have ministers who are at least interested in enacting some kind of reforms, but on the other hand, they have to deal with a public that thinks prison isn't bad enough and that human rights violations are a feature and not a bug.

Then again, one Ottawa woman is paying the price for literally hugging a thug.

CBC posted:

Police say what started as a kind gesture in Times Square ended with an assault that sent a Canadian woman to hospital.

According to the NYPD, a man holding a sign offering free hugs assaulted a 22-year-old visiting from Ottawa when she refused to pay him for a photo.

The alleged incident happened around 10:45 this morning. The victim took a picture with the accused, but when she refused three times to pay him afterwards, police say he struck her with a closed fist.

She was taken to a nearby hospital with severe swelling and a cut to her right eye. The suspect fled the scene but was arrested a few hours later at Union Square.

Jermaine Himmelstein, 24, is charged with robbery causing physical injury and fraudulent accosting.

He was also charged today in connection with an incident in April, when police allege he punched a woman in the side of the head while she was waiting for the train. Last October, he was arrested in Times Square after he was accused of striking a woman with a closed fist while holding his free hug sign.

"I give out free hugs ... to make people stay better," he explained to the New York Times in April 2013.

His parents told the Times their son was autistic and they didn't know he was frequenting downtown public spaces offering free hugs. They said they also didn't know about his change of behaviour when turned down or refused a tip.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

quote:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/dion-rejects-law-targeting-russian-human-rights-violators/article30006600/

Foreign Affairs Minister Stéphane Dion is rejecting an all-party effort to enact an American-style Magnitsky Act, which freezes assets and bans visas of Russian human-rights violators.

The move has caused a rift within the Liberal caucus and among influential Liberals, who say Mr. Dion is reneging on the Liberal Party campaign pledge to adopt such a law and casts doubt on the government’s commitment to uphold human rights.

Last year the House of Commons unanimously passed a motion by former Liberal justice minister Irwin Cotler calling on Parliament to adopt a Canadian version of the United States’s Magnitsky Act.

“The position of the party was clear during the election campaign. I certainly hope that this legislation does get passed during this coming parliamentary system,” Liberal MP Borys Wrzesnewskyj said Thursday. “Russia at its core is a kleptocracy and it is unacceptable that those individuals who have blood on their hands … can come to the West to benefit.”

But Mr. Dion said the government no longer feels honour-bound by the election promise
, arguing current laws are adequate to deal with human-rights abuses.

“I note that we are able to stop the perpetrators of this crime with the current Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, because it is checking the eligibility at the border. We have this capacity,” he told the Commons.

A senior government official told The Globe and Mail that a Canadian Magnitsky Act was a “bad idea” and Mr. Dion did not want to antagonize the Putin regime as he undertakes efforts to re-open a dialogue with the Kremlin. Relations hit a diplomatic low after President Vladimir Putin annexed Crimea in 2014.

The official said adopting a new raft of Magnitsky-style sanctions could hurt Canadian companies wanting to do business in Russia.

Former Liberal Party interim leader Bob Rae said Mr. Dion should not sacrifice principles to appease Mr. Putin and other regimes that violate human rights.

Human trafficking is.. um... I think that's technically tourism? Or is it job creation? Either way it's not something we should stop, because trying to do that would annoy a country that we value as a trading partner and we can't have that. Let's recant an election promise and not do the thing that all of Parliament - even the evil hated robot bigot man - agreed was a good idea.

Is weed legal yet?

Oh god I'm turning into him.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
At least Justin Trudeau is the most beautiful world leader

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
People here in the US always ask me about Justin Trudeau. He really is our very own Obama.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

vyelkin posted:

People here in the US always ask me about Justin Trudeau. He really is our very own Obama.

I hope you correct them and tell them Rob Ford was our Obama. The white Obama.

https://twitter.com/RoysonJames/status/715184382152155137

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
I think Dion has made the right choice in this case. It's unfortunate that we find ourselves in a situation where we must make this choice, but sadly Harper's mismanagement of our diplomatic relationship with certain countries means that our hand is forced, in a sense. An improving relationship with Russia is, frankly, more important than dealing with a few lovely criminals.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

PT6A posted:

An improving relationship with Russia basically every world power is, frankly, dealing with a few lovely criminals.

smoke sumthin bitch
Dec 14, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Russia isnt really worse than the average european country when it comes down to freedom and human rights.

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bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
I kinda like being known as the Government of death

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