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Hobgoblin2099 posted:How so? In the original saga was 'fate' as a very strong recurring theme. Characters die with purpose, villains suffer ironic defeats for their hubris and things work out pretty okay when the dust settles, even if there's sacrifices along the way. In the SBRverse none of this is true: Johnny beats Valentine not by providence but solely through his own strength of will and 'dark determination' and then dies a few years later anyway when trying to cure his wife of an illness results in a rock falling on his head. Similarly, even the literal divine power of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is not capable of making the world a better place, only transfering 'misfortune' away from one person to another, an idea also being explored with 'equivalent exchange' in JoJolion. It's a fundamentally different world from original JoJo and brings an entirely new set of trials for its protagonists to face, the world is an desolate uncaring place where things happen for no good reason and then you die. To go back to Stone Ocean, the Ireneverse is presented almost like an afterlife or reward for the characters. After everyone has suffered and died opposing a seemingly unbeatable force, Pucci, with his delusions of godhood, is struck down in the most ironic and comically terrible way possible. As Emporio says, walking the path of justice is true 'fate' and for persevering and seeing an end to DIO's legacy once and for all they're reborn in a new without the shadow of that feud cast over them, they've been through their trials and finally get to live in peace. So thematically it would make no sense for SBRverse to be the same place as Ireneverse, aside from having people who could technically be referred to as 'JoJo' but never are and Stands in them they have nothing in common and actively contradict each other in how storytelling is performed, it would turn the eventually happy ending of Stone Ocean into 'lol j/k this place is even more unfair and hosed up than the last one, try not to get uncermimoniously eaten by a aligator when you step outside the car to pee'. No Dignity fucked around with this message at 22:13 on May 13, 2016 |
# ? May 13, 2016 16:54 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 14:41 |
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Another nice little scene to set up some future stuff right at the end. David are too good at this. e: Yukako 1 Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 17:00 on May 13, 2016 |
# ? May 13, 2016 16:58 |
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Hazamada has Pink Dark Boy in his manga pile.
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# ? May 13, 2016 17:55 |
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I think RPS Kid is beneath it too since the hair and headband immediately bring him to mind.
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# ? May 13, 2016 17:57 |
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Josuke Higashikata posted:
YES!! I was trying to figure out what that was, and why it looked so much like Heaven's Door.
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# ? May 13, 2016 18:02 |
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Baal posted:I think RPS Kid is beneath it too since the hair and headband immediately bring him to mind. looks like a tennis magazine
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# ? May 13, 2016 18:04 |
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It is, but I thought it looked like him at first
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# ? May 13, 2016 18:05 |
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It does look like Ken Oyanagi, yeah.
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# ? May 13, 2016 18:05 |
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It does, but the magazine has a tennis racket on it so...
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# ? May 13, 2016 18:09 |
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Btw, Yukako's a multi episode affair, I'm assuming two, but who knows.
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# ? May 13, 2016 18:13 |
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It's about as long as Niji bros so it could definitely make 3, but I think 2 as well.
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# ? May 13, 2016 18:16 |
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2 would definitely be my guess. they'll have 2 entire episodes to cover it and i can only assume the first will be the leadup to koichi being kidnapped and the second will be the abandoned mansion
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# ? May 13, 2016 18:18 |
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And then the Spaghetti gets fixed.
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# ? May 13, 2016 18:19 |
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I hope it's a two-parter so we can get to the best part of Part 4 sooner.
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# ? May 13, 2016 18:21 |
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Oh yeah, Risotto Nero is right after Yukako, how could I forget?
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# ? May 13, 2016 18:21 |
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i can't wait for rohan to read hazamada's life story and go "what the gently caress"
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# ? May 13, 2016 18:22 |
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If anyone in the anime thread doesn't like Italian Food I don't think they should be allowed to post about JoJo
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# ? May 13, 2016 18:37 |
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Alejandro Sanchez posted:i can't wait for rohan to read hazamada's life story and go "what the gently caress" how many chapters/fights are there before we get to rohan
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# ? May 13, 2016 18:50 |
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I think it goes Yukako, Italian, RHCP, Shizuka, Rohan from here. e: I checked, it does.
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# ? May 13, 2016 18:53 |
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I can't wait to see heaven's door
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# ? May 13, 2016 18:59 |
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We've got a good month and a half to go before we hit Rohan at least.
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# ? May 13, 2016 18:59 |
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It's really funny how quickly Akira gets outed like jesus
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# ? May 13, 2016 19:00 |
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I keep thinking RHCP is way later than it actually is.
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# ? May 13, 2016 19:00 |
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Yeah for as much as there were people saying he was this major part of Part 4 he's really insignificant in the grand scheme of it and only has a few fights between his introduction and being properly fought
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# ? May 13, 2016 19:02 |
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I really love that Akira's grand plan to counter the Duwang gang's plan to use Joseph to track him down is just to go kill Joseph in person.
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# ? May 13, 2016 19:05 |
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Josuke Higashikata posted:I think it goes Yukako, Italian, RHCP, Shizuka, Rohan from here. i have a feeling we'll get a new OP after the RHCP fight, but that's kinda obvious
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# ? May 13, 2016 19:08 |
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We won't get a new OP song, but the animation will get an overhaul to include Akira, Joseph, Rohan, Shizuka, Shigechi and probably Ratt where Yukako, Tamami, Hazamada etc are now after Italian Food or RHCP 1.
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# ? May 13, 2016 19:11 |
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mabels big day posted:i have a feeling we'll get a new OP after the RHCP fight, but that's kinda obvious eh i think that will happen after shiggy dies.
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# ? May 13, 2016 19:13 |
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If we get an OP change it'll be when Kira is brought into the story proper
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# ? May 13, 2016 19:14 |
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It'll be after Sheer Heart Attack, which is the changing point of the narrative anyway. It swaps from being finding the arrow and later, the mysterious serial killer to hunting down who Yoshikage Kira became.
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# ? May 13, 2016 19:16 |
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Otoishi and Kira (the first time) get outed insanely quickly, yeah. Like, I remember them being further apart but Quiet Life/People of Morioh > Cinderella > Sheer Heart Attack is like nothing. Cinderella's functionally just setup for (the end of) SHA as well which really makes it even quicker. They decide to try and find the killer and... find him on their first real try we see. It's kind of an amazing swerve, really.
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# ? May 13, 2016 20:19 |
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# ? May 13, 2016 20:19 |
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multijoe posted:In the original saga was 'fate' as a very strong recurring theme. Characters die with purpose, villains suffer ironic defeats for their hubris and things work out pretty okay when the dust settles, even if there's sacrifices along the way. In the SBRverse none of this is true: Johnny beats Valentine not by providence but solely through his own strength of will and 'dark determination' and then dies a few years later anyway when trying to cure his life of an illness results in a rock falling on his head. Similarly, even the literal divine power of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is not capable of making the world a better place, only transfering 'misfortune' away from one person to another, an idea also being explored with 'equivalent exchange' in JoJolion. It's a fundamentally different world from original JoJo and brings an entirely new set of trials for its protagonists to face, the world is an desolate uncaring place where things happen for no good reason and then you die. Oh, like the kid in SBR that Gyro was trying to save. Yeah, when you mention it like that, I see what you mean. Yukako and Josuke as a couple. Beating up people who talk poo poo about their hair. I kind of wish this was a thing.
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# ? May 13, 2016 21:36 |
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i can't forgive david for giving hazmada a consistent height
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# ? May 13, 2016 22:44 |
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https://twitter.com/MyNews13/status/731206126230851584 Polnareff made it to Jolyne.
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# ? May 13, 2016 22:50 |
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Thing I just noticed this episode: Hazamada's uniform collar is decorated with a 間, the "Hazama" in "Hazamada." On that note, Keicho's uniform has TRILLION written on it because the "cho"(兆) in Keicho means "trillion," and Okuyasu's uniform has BILLION on it because the his Oku (億) means 10^8 and Okuyasu can't count, apparently. Kyo Nijumura continues the theme in Jojolion, as her name means 10^16.
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# ? May 14, 2016 06:23 |
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I won't be surprised if the special variant of the OP has all the shadowy silhouettes of everyone lit up, once we've met them all.
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# ? May 14, 2016 06:30 |
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I barely remember the Yukako chapters, so I decided to re-read the first one just now. Koichi's reaction to her suddenly going nuts is magical.
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# ? May 14, 2016 07:04 |
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i think next episode might actually be 2.5/3 parts based on chapter count, unless they just do a lot of truncating like they did with the Surface ep. i dont think 3 parters should be totally uncommon with the different pace of DIU.
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# ? May 14, 2016 21:47 |
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They'll probably tidy up some of it since a lot is gonna end up being Yukako's wacky craziness and it's not plot relevant like Niji Bros is
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