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Which non-Power of the Daleks story would you like to see an episode found from? This poll is closed. |
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| Marco Polo |
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36 | 20.69% |
| The Myth Makers |
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10 | 5.75% |
| The Massacre of St. Bartholomew's Eve |
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45 | 25.86% |
| The Savages |
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2 | 1.15% |
| The Smugglers |
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2 | 1.15% |
| The Highlanders |
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45 | 25.86% |
| The Macra Terror |
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21 | 12.07% |
| Fury from the Deep |
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13 | 7.47% |
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CobiWann posted:Is David Warner the new standard for Big Finish quality? David Warner has given his agent standing orders to just accept when BF calls. Doesn't need to see the script, or know the role. All he needs is the time and date.
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May 13, 2016 13:10
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My vote goes to Jessica Jones too. On top of being a really good show, it's got a very special... edge, to the people familiar with Doctor Who. He even does the 'Well...', it's not even fair.
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May 13, 2016 13:14
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He's really spectacular in the role. Shows how much the overacting was executive decision!
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May 13, 2016 13:17
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CobiWann please for the love of God watch Jessica Jones.
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May 13, 2016 13:31
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Jerusalem posted:CobiWann please for the love of God watch Jessica Jones. I don’t know why, but I think I’m watching Jessica Jones tonight. By the way J-Ru, you look good in purple.
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May 13, 2016 13:35
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CobiWann posted:I don’t know why, but I think I’m watching Jessica Jones tonight. Yeah, J-Ru. Smile.
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May 13, 2016 13:39
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Jerusalem posted:CobiWann please for the love of God watch Jessica Jones. You let me be...inside you.
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May 13, 2016 14:01
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Toxxupation posted:You let me be...inside you. It's a bad line I'd have forgotten almost immediately if it wasn't for people ranting about it.
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May 13, 2016 14:05
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Toxxupation posted:You let me be...inside you. My god, shut it down SHUT IT ALL DOWN
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May 13, 2016 14:12
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MrL_JaKiri posted:My god, shut it down SHUT IT ALL DOWN No need to overreact, friend. 
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May 13, 2016 14:16
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Update – my wife asked me to wait until next weekend to watch Jessica Jones since she and the kiddo will be on a Girl Scout retreat and I can watch the show without having to explain anything to my Marvel Cinematic Universer loving stepdaughter should she pop in. The show’s not THAT bad, is it?
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May 13, 2016 14:17
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CobiWann posted:Update – my wife asked me to wait until next weekend to watch Jessica Jones since she and the kiddo will be on a Girl Scout retreat and I can watch the show without having to explain anything to my Marvel Cinematic Universer loving stepdaughter should she pop in. It features, for Marvel, fairly visceral murders, abuse, talk of rape, abortion, and so on and so on. It'd be Torchwood to the MCU's Doctor Who if Torchwood actually had mature themes
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May 13, 2016 14:19
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CobiWann posted:Update – my wife asked me to wait until next weekend to watch Jessica Jones since she and the kiddo will be on a Girl Scout retreat and I can watch the show without having to explain anything to my Marvel Cinematic Universer loving stepdaughter should she pop in. Unless you mean "bad" in terms of kid-friendliness, in which case it's easily the most adult thing in the MCU.
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May 13, 2016 14:19
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Doctor Spaceman posted:It's a great show overall, it just has a few issues here and there. If you've got someone who's supposed to not be able to blink why can't you reshoot a short shot where the person blinks? God dammit! 
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May 13, 2016 14:21
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MrL_JaKiri posted:If you've got someone who's supposed to not be able to blink why can't you reshoot a short shot where the person blinks? God dammit! That annoyed the ever-loving poo poo out of me.
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May 13, 2016 14:24
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It is a good show, as I've never failed to mention when mocking it. It's also both an Important and Progressive show, which is definitely why it's significant over any absolute quality, because boy oh boy does JJ have PROBLEMS. But, again, the reason why I mock That Line even despite it being one of the worst written and delivered lines in recent memory is its placement within the show and relative level of importance to the show. To put into terms you'd understand it'd be like if "Then what. Is the point. Of you." was instead an atrociously terrible line of dialog that was incredibly badly delivered.
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May 13, 2016 14:26
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MrL_JaKiri posted:If you've got someone who's supposed to not be able to blink why can't you reshoot a short shot where the person blinks? God dammit! One of two Who refs! 
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May 13, 2016 14:27
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MrL_JaKiri posted:It features, for Marvel, fairly visceral murders, abuse, talk of rape, abortion, and so on and so on. It'd be Torchwood to the MCU's Doctor Who if Torchwood actually had mature themes Also pretty vivid sex scenes.
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May 13, 2016 14:28
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How physically violent is it compared to Daredevil? I’m only up to the episode where Frank pleads not guilty, so I haven’t seen the diner or prison scenes yet.
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May 13, 2016 14:31
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Toxxupation posted:To put into terms you'd understand it'd be like if "Then what. Is the point. Of you." was instead an atrociously terrible line of dialog that was incredibly badly delivered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b1a-hqvGNI
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May 13, 2016 14:31
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CobiWann posted:How physically violent is it compared to Daredevil?
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May 13, 2016 14:36
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CobiWann posted:How physically violent is it compared to Daredevil? It's actually not all that violent compared to Daredevil, or even the mainline MCU really. What Daredevil is to the movies in terms of violence, JJ is to them regarding sexual themes.
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May 13, 2016 14:42
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Jessica Jones was so good that last year the only thing better than it was Fargo season 2, and that was goddamn close to a perfect season of television. It's definitely not something I'd recommend your kid watching though, it gets into some extremely dark territory.
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May 13, 2016 14:44
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Thanks for the heads up. I wouldn’t let her watch it anyway (I’m iffy on Daredevil until she’s 13 and her mom and I argue about showing her The Blues Brothers, I want to, she doesn’t). On the other hand, this was a kid who tried to negotiate with me to take her to see Keanu solely because the cat in the commercials was so cute… quote:“Sweetie, I can’t. They use some very bad language in the movie.” CobiWann fucked around with this message at 16:25 on May 13, 2016 |
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May 13, 2016 14:51
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Keanu doesn't have a UK release date yet!
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May 13, 2016 16:01
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quote:“Oh. Ok. Well, can I see Deadpool instead?” Poor kid. You gotta negotiate down, not up  .
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May 13, 2016 16:04
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Poor kid. You gotta negotiate down, not up Don't knock it until we know the results. I'm pretty sure CobiWann will fold eventually. 
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May 13, 2016 16:07
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adhuin posted:Don't knock it until we know the results. I'm pretty sure CobiWann will fold eventually. The below may or may not be an accurate representation of how things go in our house. 
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May 13, 2016 16:28
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Jerusalem posted:Jessica Jones was so good that last year the only thing better than it was Fargo season 2, and that was goddamn close to a perfect season of television. Yeah, I agree. I honestly didn't like Daredevil - it had very good fight choreography and is well cast but feels like a very, very drawn out version of Batman Begins with a couple of variations - but Jessica Jones was both incredible and not for children. I am worried it will lose its edge and drown in comic book universe bullshit in season 2 (the supercop plotline was the weakest link in season 1 and is a bad seed for the follow-up season, and I don't care how Jessica's world interacts with the other Marvel characters), but David Tennant's villain really made the first season good.
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May 13, 2016 21:41
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Alias only ran for something like twentysomething issues before being taken off of MAX imprint and folded into the 616. And that was a wildly successful, wholly original run. The reason they did was because even Bendis, the guy who invented the character, realized that JJ being this miseryfest of a hard-drinking mess with issues dealing with rape only could go so far, so they gave her an unequivocally Happy Ending and folded her into the main continuity before it just turned into a dour bore of How Are We Gonna poo poo On Jessica Jones This Month. And to be honest her subsequent relationship with and marriage to Luke Cage was some of the best material in her history, alongside her eventual decision to become Jewel/Huntress/Power Woman. More than most characters in the Marvel Universe, Jessica Jones changed, while still being her miserable rear end in a top hat self, and she did it within a tiny relative timeframe- barely a decade. And considering they're reviving Alias again in the MU, but this time fully 616, I think they realize that JJ is a compelling character because she evolves and lives in the world around her, even if its against her own best wishes.
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May 13, 2016 21:51
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Toxxupation posted:Alias only ran for something like twentysomething issues before being taken off of MAX imprint and folded into the 616. And that was a wildly successful, wholly original run. The reason they did was because even Bendis, the guy who invented the character, realized that JJ being this miseryfest of a hard-drinking mess with issues dealing with rape only could go so far, so they gave her an unequivocally Happy Ending and folded her into the main continuity before it just turned into a dour bore of How Are We Gonna poo poo On Jessica Jones This Month. And to be honest her subsequent relationship with and marriage to Luke Cage was some of the best material in her history, alongside her eventual decision to become Jewel/Huntress/Power Woman. More than most characters in the Marvel Universe, Jessica Jones changed, while still being her miserable rear end in a top hat self, and she did it within a tiny relative timeframe- barely a decade. That could be possible. I haven't read the source material in this case. I just have a lot of pessimism about comic book universes. Even JJ's first season felt like it would have been a better story if she'd just been a straight up hardboiled detective without superpowers, I think, although I know I am very much in the minority there. I think both the writing and Ritter did a good job of portraying character development already, and if they continue down that route, it'll be good, although they may want to kick the noir aesthetic to the curb if that's the direction they're heading.
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May 13, 2016 22:03
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Bicyclops posted:That could be possible. I haven't read the source material in this case. I just have a lot of pessimism about comic book universes. Even JJ's first season felt like it would have been a better story if she'd just been a straight up hardboiled detective without superpowers, I think, although I know I am very much in the minority there. I think both the writing and Ritter did a good job of portraying character development already, and if they continue down that route, it'll be good, although they may want to kick the noir aesthetic to the curb if that's the direction they're heading. Nothing about Jones' backstory or hatred of superheroes in general makes any sense whatsoever if she doesn't have superpowers. Like, that's the whole point- The Purple Man singles her out because he wants her powers all to himself, and her hatred of superheroes comes from all of her self-hatred over the terrible things she was compelled to do. And for reference they've already run through over half of JJ's MAX run, including her best story which is what she's famous for.
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May 13, 2016 22:12
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I also highly recommend reading that original MAX run, it was phenomenal stuff. Although now I can't remember if it was the MAX run or something in the regular universe where they did the storyline about J Jonah Jameson hiring her to get dirt on Spider-Man, which is a fantastically funny story. "Jonah... we're gonna look bad if we sue a woman for giving money to charity...."
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May 14, 2016 00:40
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I'm pretty sure that was in Pulse, not Alias.Toxxupation posted:Alias only ran for something like twentysomething issues before being taken off of MAX imprint and folded into the 616 ... so they gave her an unequivocally Happy Ending and folded her into the main continuity I quibble with this slightly. Yes, Alias was published under the MAX imprint, but it was always taking place within the 616 continuity. One of the points of the series was the contradiction of Jess and the 616. Like how other than Luke, none of the 616 characters swear.
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May 14, 2016 01:17
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Also I think it was a stroke of genius to get Mark Bagley to draw the flashback panels to her time as an active superhero - everything in those bright primary colors and smooth lines and everybody was 6 foot+ and had an 8 pack.
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May 14, 2016 02:11
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To get things mildly back on track, I just finished Project: Destiny tonight and... hoo boy, Nimrod. He bothered me less in the earlier ones, maybe because he made sense stylistically with the cheesiness of Big Finish at the beginning, but now it just makes for a very strange throwback. It's a pity, because I really don't mind the concept of the Forge. If it had been headed up by a character who was trapped in a WW I era mindset and the belief that what he was doing with alien technology really was for the good of mankind, even as he drifts further and further from it with each passing year... Guess I'll just have to write it myself. Edwardian X-Com, here I come!
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May 14, 2016 04:25
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Jessica Jones was boring and I had to force myself to finish it. I completely gave up on Daredevil season 2 after a few episodes. 
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May 14, 2016 06:09
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After The War posted:Nimrod loving Nimrod, just such an awful character and the Forge was utterly useless too. It was all just trying far too hard to be something it wasn't, and you're right that the worst part of it was that there was a lot of potential there. I think Big Finish just tried to pull off something they simply didn't have the chops for (at the time) and it poisoned the well for that character/institution from that point on.
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May 14, 2016 07:16
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Bicyclops posted:Yeah, I agree. I honestly didn't like Daredevil - it had very good fight choreography and is well cast but feels like a very, very drawn out version of Batman Begins with a couple of variations - but Jessica Jones was both incredible and not for children. I am worried it will lose its edge and drown in comic book universe bullshit in season 2 (the supercop plotline was the weakest link in season 1 and is a bad seed for the follow-up season, and I don't care how Jessica's world interacts with the other Marvel characters), but David Tennant's villain really made the first season good. I'd be worried about them going the other way in season 2, honestly; that they base too much of its success on David Tennant and Kilgrave, and try to recapture the success of the first season without understanding why that was good and how to properly cap it off. Make the exact same mistake Heroes made with Sylar. I'm fine with them following the cop's story, not because I'm inherently interested but because it might work while being completely disconnected from Kilgrave. He's done, and coming back to him would only worsen things; it's better to follow a potentially interesting story that has no connection to Kilgrave than to try to recapture that and gently caress up. The best they could maybe do is write in Kilgrave's daughter from the comics, but even if they did well with that I'd still be worried if they tried.
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May 14, 2016 07:36
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Toxxupation posted:Nothing about Jones' backstory or hatred of superheroes in general makes any sense whatsoever if she doesn't have superpowers. Speaking just about the TV show, because the Purple Man reference makes it seem you are addressing the source material: Her backstory, with minor adjustments, makes perfect sense without superpowers. Her hatred of humanity's darker side (with a begrudging soft spot for humanity) is considerably more interesting than her hatred of superheroes. Kilgore's focus for pursuing her would have been more interesting if it were anything else about her, say, for example, that like every hardboiled hero, she is incredibly good at taking a vicious beating and simply cracking wise about it, something that would be compelling to someone like him. She doesn't have to have a hatred of superheroes in general if the only person with superpowers in the story is the bad guy, and then she won't be running to explore every dead end plot point in the series (namely, all of the ones which are embroiled in the superhero universe).
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May 15, 2016 03:10
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