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MrYenko posted:The odds of me needing or wanting your lovely built-in 2w speakers when I'm contemplating an ELEVEN HUNDRED DOLLAR MONITOR are somewhat lower than the chances of me getting a blowjob from Anne Hathaway tonight.
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necrobobsledder posted:Probably the speakers I use the most and I'm someone that normally does care quite a lot about the sound of speakers and headphones. Convenience often trumps quality.
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Forgive my stupidness, I don't know a lot of terminology here. I want to stop using two 1920x1200 24" monitors and start using a single ~27" to 29" (are these even common sizes?) instead. What is the next resolution "up" from 1920x1200? I don't want it to just be larger but the same resolution. I'm guessing prices would be in the $600 to $800 range?
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:I want to stop using two 1920x1200 24" monitors and start using a single ~27" to 29" (are these even common sizes?) instead. Slightly unsure what you mean by your second line there--are you saying you want to keep a relatively similar dots per inch as you currently have? That is, you don't want to step up to, say, a 4k resolution which would result in substantially higher DPI (and consequently everything would be "smaller" if the screen's physical size were kept the same). If so, you'd probably want to look at a 2560x1440 monitor, which is a very common resolution in the 27-29" range. Alternate option: 34" 3440x1440, which are awesome and give quite a bit more usable horizontal space than a single 27" 2560x1440. If you are primarily concerned with "everything looking small," Win10 does a decent job of correcting for that, should it be an issue (though it's not perfect). Depending on what other specifications you have (does it need to be good for gaming? Great colors? etc) you can pick up a 27" 1440p monitor for as little as $300 or as much as $800+.
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May 12, 2016 20:35
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I think he didn't want to do something like go to 27" 1080.GoGoGadgetChris posted:Forgive my stupidness, I don't know a lot of terminology here. The next step up would be 27" 2560x1440. 34" 3440x1440 and some size 2560x1600 also exist. 1440 starts a bit over 300 if you get a good deal and 6-800 can get you (a) real impressive monitor(s). I'm a big fan of 3440x1440, and say so repeatedly in my past posts.
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Thank you both for your responses! You are correct, I did mean "I don't just want a bigger 1080p monitor". It'll be used for gaming. Not many titles support ultra wide, do they? I'm leaning toward 2560x1440 rather than 3440x1440 for that reason.
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May 12, 2016 20:41
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Thank you both for your responses! You are correct, I did mean "I don't just want a bigger 1080p monitor". Most games can be played in 21:9 with a little bit of .ini tweaking. Others are simply pillarboxed, or can be played that way.
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May 12, 2016 20:43
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:It'll be used for gaming. Not many titles support ultra wide, do they? I'm leaning toward 2560x1440 rather than 3440x1440 for that reason. For gaming, the question rapidly becomes a mix of "do you also want to have gorgeous colors when doing anything else?", "how fast do you want the monitor to go / can your GPU push >60FPS?", and "just how much cash do you have?"
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DrDork posted:More titles work than not. The ones you tend to have to watch out for are either fairly old (and therefore have no idea what to do with an aspect ratio like that) or are in one way or another an "eSport" game and therefore have forced ratios for "fairness." In this latter case, most wide-screen monitors are quite happy to let you simply utilize a lower resolution like 2560x1440 and black-bar the sides accordingly. This is a fun process! do you also want to have gorgeous colors when doing anything else? - Yes, I guess? I don't need it to be in the 99.9th percentile of color quality or anything, and I'm not a professional photo editor, but I do want it to be pretty  how fast do you want the monitor to go / can your GPU push >60FPS? - This will be going with a new computer I plan to build. The budget for the computer is ~$1,000 to $1,200 (not including peripherals or Windows) so I imagine I want the monitor to go "fast"?? just how much cash do you have? - I'm blowing most (all?) of a $2,000 windfall on the new computer and monitor, so I guess I'd budget about $600 to $800 on the monitor.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:This is a fun process! Here are some options to look at: Acer XB270HU bprz: 27" 2560x1440 monitor, IPS for good color and viewing angles, 144Hz refresh and comes with Gsync which makes everything buttery smooth even when your frame rate drops but needs a Nvidia card to take advantage of that feature. Has QC issues so if you are unlucky finding a really good one can take a few returns/exchanges. ~$700. Dell U3415W: 34" 3440x1440 monitor, IPS for good color, slightly curved screen to bring the edges in and avoid color shift at the corners, 60Hz and no Gsync. Very well liked by most who buy it and no real QC issues. ~$750. Asus MG279Q: 27" 2560x1440 monitor, IPS for good color and viewing angles, 144Hz refresh and comes with Freesync which is like Gsync but needs an AMD video card and has some slight disadvantages compared to Gsync. Has QC issues so if you are unlucky finding a really good one can take a few returns/exchanges. ~$500. Dell S2716DG: 27" 2560x1440 monitor, TN instead of IPS which means inferior color and viewing angles, though from what I have heard this is one of the best TN screens on the market, 144Hz refresh and comes with Gsync which makes everything buttery smooth even when your frame rate drops. No QC issues that I know of. ~$550
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Here are some options to look at: Any particular reason you recommend the older Acer 1440p over the XB271?
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Anti-Hero posted:Any particular reason you recommend the older Acer 1440p over the XB271? I forgot.  Though does the 271 have the same QC issues? If not then the 271 is way better, but if they are even otherwise and the only difference is 165Hz vs 144Hz I would probably save a little money and go with the XB270.
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Sooo the XB271 looks like a Decepticon? The red and black crap with a spooky PREDATOR logo really kill it for me. Didn't realize this was a requirement, but I guess I also need the monitor to not look like it's sponsored by Mountain Dew. The Dell 34" looks awesome. Why is it only $50 more than the 27"? Are the lower refresh rate and lack of ___-Sync that big a deal?
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:I forgot. I had an XB270HU which I ended up returning, but many of them have updated firmware and can do 165hz just fine as well.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Sooo the XB271 looks like a Decepticon? The red and black crap with a spooky PREDATOR logo really kill it for me. Didn't realize this was a requirement, but I guess I also need the monitor to not look like it's sponsored by Mountain Dew. Yeah, it's the lack of Free/G-sync and lower refresh, to give you an idea the Acer X34 is a 34" curved ultra wide with 100Hz and Gsync, the price is $1200-$1300. And yeah, outside of the Dell ones they all look very "Gamer  "If you have used TN screens in the past and don't mind them I would go with the Dell S2716DG, it's incredibly cheap for a 1440p monitor with Gsync, otherwise the Dell U3415W is a really great option, especially for work related stuff since you can fit like 3-4 documents on screen at once.
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DrDork posted:If it's anything like the QNix, you need to get a board of some sort (a 10x10 or 12x12" piece of cheap rear end fiber board works fine) and glue it to the back of the panel assembly--which is what the JB weld is for (albeit quite a bit of overkill). You then should have the circuit board and a tin cover with the VESA holes on it, which you also attach to the fiber board. If you Google for the QNix debezeling guide there are a bunch of how to's with pictures. It looks hard but the only part that takes any skill is gluing the thing on straight (and if your VESA stand has rotate adjustments that's not even particularly important). Rexxed posted:I think one of the DIY guides I saw for debezeling the Shimian had the owner using JB Weld to attach the back and the front metal bits, you just have to make sure it's centered and let it cure completely before you put weight on it. Thanks, I looked up the guides and it doesn't seem super hard, but is not as cut and dry on the shimian as it is on the qnix. The circuit box is a lot wider and the back of the monitor isn't flat like the qnix, its got other wires and metal protrusions that get in the way from it sitting flush. Also, and this part is me being dumb and impatient, but I'm moving in a week and a half and definitely won't have time to do a new project like that anytime this month. I found there was actually a consumer grade product that would be another option and is cheap, this thing for ghetto mounting iMacs: http://www.pricedepot.com/loctek-da2-vesa-mount-adapter-kit-stand-bracket-for-apple-devices-19-27-max-44-lbs.html It seems like if I did that I could just command strip the board to the monitor and the slap it in this thing and call it a day. It would still look half as ugly as the huge rear end bezel did too. GoGoGadgetChris posted:Sooo the XB271 looks like a Decepticon? The red and black crap with a spooky PREDATOR logo really kill it for me. Didn't realize this was a requirement, but I guess I also need the monitor to not look like it's sponsored by Mountain Dew. One of my customers has the dell 34" and it looks amazing
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The Dell 34" has some input lag, making it not the best gaming monitor. Just an FYI.
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VulgarandStupid posted:The Dell 34" has some input lag, making it not the best gaming monitor. Just an FYI. And the two upstream USB ports allowing a single set of peripherals to be used between two systems is absolutely one of its best selling points that I don't think any current other equivalent monitor has.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:I forgot. I believe the 271 QC is improved. I should be able to tell you next week as I'm about to order one 
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SourKraut posted:And the two upstream USB ports allowing a single set of peripherals to be used between two systems is absolutely one of its best selling points that I don't think any current other equivalent monitor has.
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SourKraut posted:For someone doing casual gaming, it's really not a big deal. I play most Blizzard games and various older games, but played a bunch of Overwatch during the open beta and it was fine. While I'm sure for competitive gamers it's ideal to a Predator, I bet most people wouldn't even notice. LGs with thunderbolt if you have TB do similar, but other than that nothing else. And it is totally fantastic although you can get a pretty good hardware switcher pretty cheap.
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I really wish the X34 had two usb upstream ports for that reason. I use a Macbook Pro for work and it's a pain in switch between that and my desktop.
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Got an Acer CB280HK for work, it's pretty great. Big upgrade from the 21" BenQs I had. I'm using DVI at the moment, how much of an improvement would a displayport link be? I'd need to convince work to get a new gpu.
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So Acer now has two 34" ultrawides with G-sync in their product range or is the newer model just the successor (already?). I am confused. What's the difference between those two, other than a 100€ markup? I wish Dell would hop on the G-sync bandwagon with a more than competitive offer. 1300 for Acer or Asus (still next to no availability for the latter) is a bit steep, but with the next generation of GPUS just around the corner, that is the way I am heading anyway.
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mcbexx posted:So Acer now has two 34" ultrawides with G-sync in their product range or is the newer model just the successor (already?). The xr341ck was released earlier, supports Freesync and is cheaper. It's only 75hz. This might even skip frames, according to TFTCentral. The x34 came out later, supports G-sync and is more expensive. It's supposed to OC to 100hz, but not all of them will go that high. It's better than the other monitor and g-sync is better than freesync, but again it's more expensive.
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Chiming in to recommend Dell monitors. Their support and warranty is fantastic. I've had a U2713HM for close to 3 years. The monitor failed to power on today. Spent 30 mins on the phone with them and I've got a replacement coming in 3-5 business days.
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My Acer XB321HK arrived. First off, the box is hilariously, intimidatingly huge. I immediately started having second thoughts about such an enormous monitor. Pluses: -The stand is all-metal, and feels like you could use it as a weapon. It attaches to the monitor arm via a single captive thumbscrew, and requires zero tools to assemble out-of-the-box, which is a nice touch. Its adjustable for height, tilt, and rotation and has a pretty good range of motion in all three axes, including a 90° rotation, if portrait mode is your jam. It's a little gaudy, but not bad; The red parts are a dark matte powdercoat, and don't stand out as much as it might seem, at first. -3840x2160 is absolutely glorious. 1080p will never be the same; My old panel is now my secondary monitor, and looks positively blurry in comparison. -Not a single dead or stuck pixel that I've found so far on either a black or white screen. -I was prepared for a little backlight bleed, but this thing is really, really good. It's not perfect, but it's leaps and bounds better than my old 27" TN panel. -This is a minor thing, but the 2x USB3.0 ports are awesome for my setup. -G-sync really works. It's not a cure-all, but DCS was extremely fluid and smooth even at "only" 30-40 fps. I'll be trying some more intensive games tonight, but GTAV is dead smooth at 4K, even on my GTX770, despite a relatively low actual frame rate. (28-35fps) Negatives: -The stand is all-metal, and this is a big, heavy panel. The entire assembly is quite a bit heavier than it looks. -It's not an OLED. I can't wait for those. -Why does this loving thing have speakers? -Holy poo poo I've bought cars that cost less. -Netflix still refuses to stream 4K content to browsers because reasons. I'll be putting it through a more intensive test shortly, and I plan on pairing it with a GTX1080, but holy poo poo this is an amazing display. I'm extremely pleased with it.
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VulgarandStupid posted:The xr341ck was released earlier, supports Freesync and is cheaper. It's only 75hz. This might even skip frames, according to TFTCentral. There is a new x34A sku. Not sure what's different yet e: http://www.overclock.net/t/1573121/acer-predator-x34-owners-club/1790#post_25155285 
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I got my Dell P2715Q today, it's glorious. Completely gobsmacking. It absolutely dwarfs my U2211H. I'm also happy to see that they've improved the anti-glare coating over the years so this one doesn't have a fine film grain about it like the U2211H. Only problem is I current have 3 computers and all lack the means to drive it properly. My desktop still has a GTX 460 in it that only has DVI and HDMI outputs (currently waiting on a GTX1080) My Surface Pro 3 has an intel HD 4400 in it, so it can't do 4k at 60hz no matter what My XPS15 should be able to do it. It drives its internal 4k screen at 60hz, but I don't have a USB-C to display port adapter so I only have HDMI out on it. So, 30hz there too. Oh well, the GTX1080 will be out soon enough, not like I'm going to be playing games on this thing before it gets here anyways (well, maybe with the XPS15 if I get the proper adapter.) I also just noticed that I got this exactly 6 years to the day after I purchased my U2211H .
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If you can pull the x34 off the stand and on an arm it really doesn't look that bad. It's such a better monitor than the u3415 I had.
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necrobobsledder posted:I switch between two computers via Thunderbolt or HDMI/Displayport on my LG 34UM95-P. Thunderbolt switching is the primary reason I'm holding onto it. xthetenth posted:LGs with thunderbolt if you have TB do similar, but other than that nothing else. And it is totally fantastic although you can get a pretty good hardware switcher pretty cheap. That's right, I think I bel ankles it out but I had actually considered the 34UM95-P, but a lot of reviews seemed to indicate issues with the the built-in hub and switching, and I was going to have to try and find a mATX Z97 board with TB or that could take a TB add on card. It did look like a nice monitor though. sellouts posted:It's such a better monitor than the u3415 I had.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Here are some options to look at: Why people never mention the best (I'm biased, ok), easiest (no curve, no gsync) and cheapest of all the ultrawide, the AOC U3477PQU? I have two of them and they're just amazing.
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froody guy posted:Why people never mention the best (I'm biased, ok), easiest (no curve, no gsync) and cheapest of all the ultrawide, the AOC U3477PQU? I have two of them and they're just amazing. From what I gather AOC isn't distributed very widely in North America which is why the lack of mentions here.
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froody guy posted:Why people never mention the best (I'm biased, ok), easiest (no curve, no gsync) and cheapest of all the ultrawide, the AOC U3477PQU? I have two of them and they're just amazing. How do you even view these side by side without having some serious neck cramp issues?
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froody guy posted:Why people never mention the best (I'm biased, ok), easiest (no curve, no gsync) and cheapest of all the ultrawide, the AOC U3477PQU? I have two of them and they're just amazing. They're probably scared away by the low rating and several complaints by verified buyers hat their money goes all stopped working.
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Etrips posted:How do you even view these side by side without having some serious neck cramp issues? Gotta love neck cramp issues if you go 21:9   mediaphage posted:They're probably scared away by the low rating and several complaints by verified buyers hat their money goes all stopped working. By the way, it doesn't completely fix it, but there is a workaround to try: disable the monitor's audio from your playback devices list, should be listed as "U3477". Why it works? Don't ask 
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Huh, that's nuts by my standards and I run 2560+3440+2560x1440. Gotta have a clear middle for gaming, and the middle's a nice width for everything that isn't moving the neck over. Pity it doesn't properly fit on the desk.
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xthetenth posted:Huh, that's nuts by my standards and I run 2560+3440+2560x1440. Gotta have a clear middle for gaming, and the middle's a nice width for everything that isn't moving the neck over. Pity it doesn't properly fit on the desk. I had a 2560 sitting next my first 3440 but the vertical difference was unbearable, so I used it in portrait and it was kinda ok since being a 25'' it did have the same height of the 3440 but basically it was 3440+1440 (instead of 3440+2560) and it was too little and almost useless. If your 2560s are 27'' and have height adjustability, you're doing it right. Ah, I play on a single one of those, not with the bezel in ma face
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froody guy posted:I had a 2560 sitting next my first 3440 but the vertical difference was unbearable, so I used it in portrait and it was kinda ok since being a 25'' it did have the same height of the 3440 but basically it was 3440+1440 (instead of 3440+2560) and it was too little and almost useless. If your 2560s are 27'' and have height adjustability, you're doing it right. Yeah, I have a pair of 27" 2560s that are the same height as the 34".
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