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Parallel Paraplegic posted:The title "Johnathan's of Matthews Family Restaurant" is triggering the hell out of me right now. This one always got me 
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cumshitter posted:Years ago I stumbled on some forum for ex-Mormons. I wish I'd bookmarked it, the stories people were telling were pretty interesting. Stuff like Stake Leaders pressuring them into tithing and calling it "fire-insurance" or how apparently Mormons will track you down the same way Scientologists do for the rest of your life. The people there said it was pretty common for the local Stake to get your information and send out a member with baked goods in an attempt to talk you back into the faith and the only way to stop this was to send a formal letter of resignation to the head list keeping office in Utah. This has happened to me and my sister, they pressure my mom to give our current phone numbers so they can invite us to activities. The only way we've come to a peace is we've agreed not to resign if she gives them fake numbers. I would've resigned years ago but it would cause my mom to be mocked for being a failed parent, which for whatever reason would make her sad instead of realizing that this whole thing is bullshit
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Darkman Fanpage posted:To be fair if he's a 44 year old roofer there's a good chance he's mentally challenged. Nobody that age should be doing that job. People a lot older than that do more physical jobs. In some places it's their only option and the best shot at retirement because it ruins you so completely that you can eventually get disability
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CaptainSarcastic posted:No, but the SovCit article linked in the tweet did helpfully provide the prison mailing address for him. 20 bucks well spent
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Epic High Five posted:People a lot older than that do more physical jobs. In some places it's their only option and the best shot at retirement because it ruins you so completely that you can eventually get disability Also, I stopped laughing at trades in college when a professor at my university wondered out loud if she should have been a plumber considering how much they charged her to fix a leak.
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:So do modern day Mormons actively talk about how Native Americans are actually Jewish people who canoed to America 2500 years ago and black people are angels who were conscientious objectors in the war in heaven, and Abraham wrote the Book of the Dead? Or is that stuff usually just ignored? In my experience they don't talk about that stuff, but it isn't denied. If you specifically ask about crazy belief X the general response is 'That's a lot less important now, have we talked about this cool stuff we've done lately?" and if you keep pressing they'll eventually admit that yeah it's true. Generally that's when they'll gently caress off though, because you're not actually looking to convert and are being actively hostile etc.
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Anyone ever watch Big Love? There's a scene where they go to some kind of special super fancy secret chamber of the church that's supposed to be like a 30 minute spa treatment or something where you go to "heaven" for a bit. Sort of like those gardens the Hashishin would take people they programmed to be assassins to while doped up and poo poo, except instead I guess they use it to convince women to give all agency to their husband until they die. Was that poo poo based in fact????? cumshitter has issued a correction as of 20:52 on May 16, 2016 |
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May 16, 2016 20:48
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cumshitter posted:Anyone ever watch Big Love? There's a scene where they go to some kind of special super fancy secret chamber of the church that's supposed to be like a 30 minute spa treatment or something where you go to "heaven" for a bit. Sort of like those gardens the Hashishin would take people they programmed to be assassins to while doped up and poo poo, except instead I guess they use it to convince women to give all agency to their husband until they die. On the topic of weird cults I live like 10 miles from the world headquarters of scientology now and the building includes something called the "pain room" and all I can imagine given that name is that torture box from the star trek where they went to the evil dimension
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cumshitter posted:Anyone ever watch Big Love? There's a scene where they go to some kind of special super fancy secret chamber of the church that's supposed to be like a 30 minute spa treatment or something where you go to "heaven" for a bit. Sort of like those gardens the Hashishin would take people they programmed to be assassins to while doped up and poo poo, except instead I guess they use it to convince women to give all agency to their husband until they die. No. Mormon temples are generally closed to the public, and they're known for having decorated, themed rooms that are used ceremonially, but as far as people report they're symbolic, and photo evidence suggests they're pretty underwhelming by modern standards.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:On the topic of weird cults I live like 10 miles from the world headquarters of scientology now and the building includes something called the "pain room" and all I can imagine given that name is that torture box from the star trek where they went to the evil dimension I'm sure its just for enturbulating body thetans to facilitate a rundown; nothing to see here, citizen.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:On the topic of weird cults I live like 10 miles from the world headquarters of scientology now and the building includes something called the "pain room" and all I can imagine given that name is that torture box from the star trek where they went to the evil dimension I used to live right by their Celebrity Center here in Los Angeles doing a job that would sometimes let me out at 11 PM or later. I'd have to drive by the Center to get home. You know how when someone is trying to cross the street they'll put one fut down in front of the curb as they wait for cars to pass? Well the Church owns the apartment buildings across the street from the Center, and the Center is always open (to Scientologists at least), so Scientologists would scurry back and forth at all hours. They looked like waiters without the apron they keep the order pad in. Anyway, whenever I was driving down one of them would be trying to cross the street, doing that one foot off the curb thing, but unlike normal pedestrians they would stare at me. Like really intensely. It just stuck out and it felt so damned odd. Until after doing this for a few years I saw a documentary where Scientologists are taking classes sitting down at repurposed phone bank desks with an object placed before them. They'd give instructions to the object, telling it to move left, right, etc. before being instructed to thank the object for being whatever it was. After watching it I realized that those cultists were trying to use their mind powers to stop my car. So from then on I always sped up whenever I caught one trying to stare me down. Just a few years ago the Church bribed the city into putting crosswalks and yield signs on the road between the Center and the apartments. I guess someone got run down or they realized that having a constant reminder that Thetan powers are bullshit wasn't a good idea. Discendo Vox posted:No. Mormon temples are generally closed to the public, and they're known for having decorated, themed rooms that are used ceremonially, but as far as people report they're symbolic, and photo evidence suggests they're pretty underwhelming by modern standards. Apparently non-believers are allowed to see those rooms, but only on the opening day of a new church. I remember hearing one was opening here some years back and they mentioned it on the news.
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cumshitter posted:Anyone ever watch Big Love? There's a scene where they go to some kind of special super fancy secret chamber of the church that's supposed to be like a 30 minute spa treatment or something where you go to "heaven" for a bit. Sort of like those gardens the Hashishin would take people they programmed to be assassins to while doped up and poo poo, except instead I guess they use it to convince women to give all agency to their husband until they die. It's actually some masonic-knockoff ceremony poo poo symbolizing being together after death. Also outside the Temple there's a patriarchal blessing you can only have once, you get to find out which lost tribe of israel you are and get some steaming improv divine inspiration for your life.
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cumshitter posted:I used to live right by their Celebrity Center here in Los Angeles doing a job that would sometimes let me out at 11 PM or later. I'd have to drive by the Center to get home. Yes, and then when the visiting period is over they tear out all the carpets and floorboards and replace them.
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May 16, 2016 22:24
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The main LDS church gave up polygamy in the 1890s. The people who practice it today are fundamentalist offshoots. So even if that scene was based on something real, it wouldn't have anything to do with the main church.
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Mormon Temples are real boring, even when they're doing all the fancy stuff. Re: weird mormon doctrine. Mormonism got a ton more concerned about what the world thought about them in the 70's with L. Tom Perry. There was this giant temple building push in the 60's and 70's because the apocalypse WAS COMING and people needed their temple work and then the church nearly went bankrupt and welp. They introduced this thing called correlation which basically streamlined a whole bunch of doctrine and gave the church its sort of seriously corporate feeling inside. The ultimate result was "unified" doctrine that looked a lot more "protestant." They still believe most of the wild bs, but its not talked about because of how wild it is.
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This push has been amplified recently as well. Things like FARMS have been shut down and placed completely under the auspices of the much more mainline BYU studies publishing. All the weird mormon doctrinal stuff comes out of Signature Press and Kofford books these days, and those are both not really church sanctioned.
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May 16, 2016 23:22
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Do I still get my own planet when I die though, that's the important part.
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Probably. There's some question internally about Lorenzo Snow's famous statement: "As man now is, God once was; as God now is, man may be" and the first presidency has generally shied away from making direct proclamations about that sort of thing. Hinckley suggested that Snow was wrong about the whole God being like man thing, but didn't really take too much aim at the other part. Progression theology is pretty important to Mormon christology.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Do I still get my own planet when I die though, that's the important part. Is it really worth an eternity in magic underwear tho? 
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I'm willing to bet that a good number of Mormons have actually eroticized the temple undergarments by this point.
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Facebook Aunt posted:Is it really worth an eternity in magic underwear tho? As long as I get to be some planet's jackass trickster god version of Q from star trek sure whatever 
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:As long as I get to be some planet's jackass trickster god version of Q from star trek sure whatever unfortunately you're going to be doing missionary work for all of eternity, sorry.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Do I still get my own planet when I die though, that's the important part. Apparently it's not a planet, you get to become god of an entire universe, like God does.
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Dr. Killjoy posted:I'm willing to bet that a good number of Mormons have actually eroticized the temple undergarments by this point.
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Schnorkles posted:unfortunately you're going to be doing missionary work for all of eternity, sorry. For me or my God? Is God my upline in this hosed up MLM afterlife? I mean it would be easy to get my own creations to worship me but telling them that Boss God is the guy who really deserves their respect might be a tougher sell.
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I know that they have some wackadoo beliefs but all the Mormons I grew up with were pretty chill, you just gave them rootbeer instead at birthday parties and they couldn't hang out on Sunday's. In high school one occasionally one went insane and became an alcoholic or hosed the entirety of the student body but Catholics seemed to do that too. that and the anal doesn't count as sex thing.
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Could we maybe have a separate thread for mormonism chat? It's not particularly salient to the Bundies or sovcits- to the degree that LDS had an influence it was via seven degrees of separation and a mail order study course.
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May 17, 2016 00:29
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Mitt Romney cried when he found out he was to no longer consider black people sinful inferiors
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Discendo Vox posted:Could we maybe have a separate thread for mormonism chat? I'd read the gently caress out of this thread if someone does it, mormons are so interesting to me My grandma is one, but rarely talks about anything other than occasionally doing relief society and baking things for people / getting baked goods from people
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Discendo Vox posted:Could we maybe have a separate thread for mormonism chat? It's not particularly salient to the Bundies or sovcits- to the degree that LDS had an influence it was via seven degrees of separation and a mail order study course. I agree. It is very important to maintain the sanctity of the Molten Salt Reactor subforum.
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Facebook Aunt posted:I agree. It is very important to maintain the sanctity of the Molten Salt Reactor subforum. True, but it'd still be a good idea to keep more on target re: those Bundy morons and associated sovcit buffoonery.
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cumshitter posted:Years ago I stumbled on some forum for ex-Mormons. I wish I'd bookmarked it, the stories people were telling were pretty interesting. Stuff like Stake Leaders pressuring them into tithing and calling it "fire-insurance" or how apparently Mormons will track you down the same way Scientologists do for the rest of your life. The people there said it was pretty common for the local Stake to get your information and send out a member with baked goods in an attempt to talk you back into the faith and the only way to stop this was to send a formal letter of resignation to the head list keeping office in Utah. Why turn down a steady supply of free baked goods? 
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Do ranches have names? Bundy should rename his ranch Cowschwitz
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:Do ranches have names? Bundy should rename his ranch Cowschwitz Malheur Occupation: Arbeit Macht Fry
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McNerd posted:
Oh God! It's... bullocaust! Is the federal government operating some kind of Holsteinsatzgruppen?!
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that's legit what people call the huge cattle ranch in the central valley here in california for those not in the know that's the region between san francisco and los angeles
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Oh God! It's... bullocaust! Is the federal government operating some kind of Holsteinsatzgruppen?! [/quote] Bovinesatzgruppen.
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Gristlenacht.
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Some new schadenfreude from the Bundy's facebook pagequote:if your black you burn down your town and they just let you do it , but if your white and stand up for your Constitutional rights you go to jail ......how much are we going to take from the corrupt govt ? every one knows they are breaking our laws , and lately Obama is picking up speed on how fast he is trying to destroy us quote:None of these men or their families deserves to be in prison. They are not terrorists, they have not been proven guilty of any crime yet they are being harshly punished by our oppressive federal government and OUR elected officials, none of whom deserve our vote when it is time to elect. I wrote to my Congressman LaMalfa at least two months ago, no response. I wrote to Boxer and Feinstein at the same time. Feinstein responded, she agrees that they need to be in prison. No response from Boxer. I will not vote for any of them ever again, quote:I don't understand I prayed for hours and I prayed for Santill to be released too....I even prayed they wouldnt get arrested...and none of my prayers came to pass the exact opposite happened...Why is God not listening quote:They're not real judges. These are administrators of tyrants contract laws which is a unconstitutional fraud and treason. Hang the bastards for high crimes! quote:We would like to clear up the misunderstanding at the Trump rally. This was a statement made regarding fellow patriots being removed...
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PST posted:Some new schadenfreude from the Bundy's facebook page Also, lol at that trump poo poo. That's so loving pandering it has to be from a direct campaign staffer for trump.
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