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Shame the gently caress out of that WAR. That WHM sounds great and I'd take them a hundred percent of the time.
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The implication was that it was WHM, WAR, then us. ilifinicus posted:I stopped reading once they were mad about casts being interrupted from things dying too fast; that's not something to whine about It's a bit more of a minor annoyance than getting Deathflare/Fell Cleave sniped out from under you though.
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May 17, 2016 02:29
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had this ARF run today not only an honest healer but also a monk that barely did more damage than the tank. worst part was that he was geared way better than I was 
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May 17, 2016 02:41
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ARF is synced to i180, though.
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May 17, 2016 02:42
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EponymousMrYar posted:Nothing mad about that, just at the WHM. Our casts being interrupted was the reason for our low DPS on that fight because I know I lost Enochian once and Astral 3 twice due to the rocks/adds dying while the Blizz 4/Fire was being cast. Do not cast Blizzard 4 on targets with low HP. Target the boss and cast it there so you know it won't get interrupted. Do this with Fire 1 as well if low hp adds are dying quickly enough that your Fire cast might not finish. Swiftcast can help you get casts out before targets die as well if you have to, or it can be used to quickly toss out a Fire 3 if you drop Astral Fire.
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May 17, 2016 02:59
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Virulence posted:ARF is synced to i180, though. Monks could do (over) 470dps with i120 gear at level 50.
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Hamsterlady posted:Do not cast Blizzard 4 on targets with low HP. Target the boss and cast it there so you know it won't get interrupted. Do this with Fire 1 as well if low hp adds are dying quickly enough that your Fire cast might not finish. Swiftcast can help you get casts out before targets die as well if you have to, or it can be used to quickly toss out a Fire 3 if you drop Astral Fire. Yeah, this. Same with Flare.
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May 17, 2016 03:02
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as a whm main I make it a point to shame all other players I out dps and unironically encourage this behavior since warriors have been doing it forever
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May 17, 2016 03:11
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Evil Fluffy posted:Monks could do (over) 470dps with i120 gear at level 50. I'm aware. I'm just implying the difference shouldn't have even been that significant to begin with, but people are terrible at video games. As an aside, seeing people with 9 pieces of Lore gear and a 210 weapon is pretty frustrating.
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May 17, 2016 03:23
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Hamsterlady posted:Do not cast Blizzard 4 on targets with low HP. Target the boss and cast it there so you know it won't get interrupted. Do this with Fire 1 as well if low hp adds are dying quickly enough that your Fire cast might not finish. Swiftcast can help you get casts out before targets die as well if you have to, or it can be used to quickly toss out a Fire 3 if you drop Astral Fire. I know this, but when the other DPS is also BLM things get wonky. Especially since Ziggy's adds die in pretty much a single cast. (The blizz 4 was on an add attacking the healer with Ziggy across the room, but their Stone 3 went off before mine did.)
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May 17, 2016 03:30
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Healer should be middle of the dps chart or they aren't doing their job right
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May 17, 2016 03:52
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If you can trust your healer, don't kill Ziggy's adds at all. The explosion damage is not difficult to just heal through, and you can keep dps on the boss.
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May 17, 2016 03:55
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Reiterpallasch posted:If you can trust your healer, don't kill Ziggy's adds at all. The explosion damage is not difficult to just heal through, and you can keep dps on the boss. This is true, I have done this as a healer. BUT your DPS has to be able to do a 2 phase, if you hit phase three Stardust going off somebody is probably going to die if they get hit by all the explosions.
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May 17, 2016 04:10
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EponymousMrYar posted:I know this, but when the other DPS is also BLM things get wonky. Especially since Ziggy's adds die in pretty much a single cast. (The blizz 4 was on an add attacking the healer with Ziggy across the room, but their Stone 3 went off before mine did.) Low HP includes low max HP. If adds are dying in one or two casts, target the boss with Blizzard 4, because a mob at max HP might still die before you finish Blizzard 4's long cast time. All the adds in the Ziggy fight can't be trusted to live for 3 seconds.
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I've seen five stardust phases with really lovely DPS. They're time based so if the fight somehow goes on long enough there might be a sixth, I don't know.
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zolthorg posted:Healer should be middle of the dps chart or they aren't doing their job right
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Fister Roboto posted:You know there's more than one way to get relic tokens than beast tribe quests, right? The open-endedness of that step was great and I hope they expand on it in the future. When your combined playtime is an hour and a half between waking up but before going to work and coming home for lunch, beastmen fit that schedule perfectly. I can jump in, grab the quests, leave when I have to leave and can continue rather then having to sit in a queue again when I come back. Also I'm not having my time eaten up by retards who don't know how to play their class despite getting them all the way to 60.
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May 17, 2016 08:05
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In a trash pull of 4 or more enemies, I (SCH) can generally get top DPS in the group if there's no SMN! Here is something I recently discovered and would like to tell fellow scholars: emergency tactics actually owns. You see the description and you think, "so what? a cooldown just to be a white mage for one spell? situational at best, like dissipation," but it's up every 30 seconds, so basically any time you need some burst group healing you can chain emergency tactics -> succor -> indomitability and it feels so good.
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May 17, 2016 08:12
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Potato Jones posted:But they can aim for the top. sorry, at minimum* Panic! at Nabisco posted:In a trash pull of 4 or more enemies, I (SCH) can generally get top DPS in the group if there's no SMN! cant wait to hit 60, that sounds amazing, not as much for aoe but for clutch tank heals if you got a crit adlo :o
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May 17, 2016 08:12
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Speaking of DPS being so low that you get to see boss phases you had never seen before, I finally learned what the last boss of Copperbell Mines was trying to achieve. It happened my first time queuing for mentor roulette. Today, I queued it and got Odin. I actually still like it because it's so random. It's like gambling, except I'm not sure what I'd consider a win...
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ruta posted:Speaking of DPS being so low that you get to see boss phases you had never seen before, I finally learned what the last boss of Copperbell Mines was trying to achieve. It happened my first time queuing for mentor roulette. Today, I queued it and got Odin. I actually still like it because it's so random. It's like gambling, except I'm not sure what I'd consider a win...
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May 17, 2016 08:24
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Yeah, the current exdr is very healer friendly. As in, past a roused selene/sealed regen at the right time you don't really have to touch your heal skills. Just bomb away. When I queue as a blm and there's a decently geared whm, I have issues competing, goddamn long fire 3 casts lowering my dps. 
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Of the remaining jobs I have yet to max from 50 to 60, which of these has an interesting story? * SCH/SMN * WHM * BLM * DRG SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 10:55 on May 17, 2016 |
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May 17, 2016 10:21
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SMN has you taking on some B-tier Ascians, it's kinda cool.
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May 17, 2016 10:31
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DRG has a 30-50 story that makes no goddamn sense if you've completed 3.0, and tbh makes no sense in context even if you completed it before HW.
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May 17, 2016 10:37
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If you like beast tribe quests then you might enjoy BLM 30-50.
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May 17, 2016 10:51
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SMN/SCH both have pretty good stories post-50.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Of the remaining jobs I have yet to max from 50 to 60, which of these has an interesting story? WHM 50-60 isn't bad. It's still on the generic side like the 30-50 WHM quest. Better done but nothing new. There's a corruption leaking into the forest from Ishgard and you're the only White Mage for the job! (Because the other two are scared of going outside...) BLM 50-60 is super generic and I spent the entire time laughing at the silly BLM eso outfit the bad guy wears. Nothing to write home about. There's another Black Mage teaching people the FORBIDDEN BLACK ARTS and guess who's catching the flak for it? DRG 50-60 is pretty bland but you get a closer look at Dragoons and their place in Ishgardian society. I'm a sucker for that kind of world building crap so I was on board. The Captain of the not-special Dragoons is pretty pumped to finally learn from an Azure Dragoon that isn't a weird, reclusive dick. i am tim! fucked around with this message at 12:21 on May 17, 2016 |
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Your mileage on WHM questing in HW boils down to how immature your sense of humor is. If the phrase "cleanse the taint" makes you laugh then you'll have fun with it. The duties are good though. DRG has some neat setpiece duties but aside from that it's just more loving stubborn Ishgard elf adventures. The ending could have some neat payoff down the road though. Haven't gotten around to SMN yet but SCH is more fun with the Nymian tonberries so it is automatically great.
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Summoner wasn't very exciting, but Y'shtola's sister is also basically a cardboard cutout so there wasn't a lot to expect. On the other hand, you do cap it off by using Akh Morn on a bunch of chump Ascians so it has that going for it. Scholar was kind of cute, with more Tonberries and also getting conscripted as a marine by a Tonberry sergeant. I think I enjoyed this one the most. Do dragoon if you want to hate elves more.
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The best part about bird farming Thordan EX is every party that can actually easily clear falls apart after three runs.
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Dragoon quests (And, well, Ishgardian society in general) make me want a Dravanian job crystal. Every 5 levels, a new dragon form or powers to use while shapeshifted into a dragon.
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unseenlibrarian posted:Dragoon quests (And, well, Ishgardian society in general) make me want a Dravanian job crystal. Every 5 levels, a new dragon form or powers to use while shapeshifted into a dragon. That would be a boss as hell DPS job if they did it right.
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Expand it beyond just dragons and you have a recipe for the BLU job we've been talking about vvv: You get access to endgame currencies (tomes) when you cross various milestones like level 50/2.0msq and level 60/3.0msq Sentient Data fucked around with this message at 15:25 on May 17, 2016 |
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May 17, 2016 14:48
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What are daily roulette turn ins? I can do a daily roulette duty dungeon with extra xp or something, is that it?
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:Mentor roulette has things in it that aren't EX primals and aurum vale?? I've gotten Lost City of Ampador Hard three times in a row for mentor roulette. Of those three, one of them was the best pubbie runs I ever had of an EXDR dungeon (both DPS above 1100 DPS, SCH at 900, and then me at 650 for tank).
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Thanks to mentor roulette I can confirm that people still drop after one failed attempt at Chrysalis, or immediately on entering Steps. I don't get it either, those are such easy fun fights nowadays. I've also somehow gotten Levi Ex with 3+ newbies more than a few times. Sometimes we even win!
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