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Tuskin38 posted:ok I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure i saw a naval unit icon in Switzerland for a second. Maybe that's another ebook thing?
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That would make sense. Also I think the steam store page got new screenshots, might be wrong.
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Pre-Purchase Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet Edition (Pre-Order) - $39.99 Pre-Purchase Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel Edition (Pre-Order) - $49.99 Pre-Purchase Hearts of Iron IV: Field Marshal Edition (Pre-Order) - $89.99 Hm... wonder what the difference is.
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COOL CORN posted:Pre-Purchase Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet Edition (Pre-Order) - $39.99 Nothing in Steam right now, I guess they're still updating the page. But they just showed a new trailer on Twitch and as per the stream, the differences are:  The Field Marshal edition includes expansion pack #1 but I don't know if that (plus the few extras that really make no difference) is really worth an extra $45... edit: oh, now the Steam page is updated and the FM edition includes the first 2 expansions, not just 1 (estimated value of $49.99USD). I guess that's a little more palatable. VVV - yes, I just saw it was updated. Psychotic Weasel fucked around with this message at 17:00 on May 17, 2016 |
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Psychotic Weasel posted:Nothing in Steam right now, I guess they're still updating the page. According to the shop it's the first two expansion packs. https://www.paradoxplaza.com/hearts-of-iron-iv-field-marshall-edition
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Psychotic Weasel posted:Nothing in Steam right now, I guess they're still updating the page. Hopefully there'll be a bunch of discounts floating around? Like I got Stellaris from Green Man Gaming with a 20% discount (got the Warhammer Total War preorder too)
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Huh I thought Paradox said they wouldn't do season pass type deals. And $50 for the two expansions? I hope that includes the content packs too. details all up on Steam: quote:Heavy Cruiser Pack: Have to say it's much more enticing than the Stellaris preorder bonuses, I'm definitely getting the $50 at least and I might relent and get the $90 one  but then art books are something I actually appreciate. Can we get any details, even super vague ones, about what the expansions are gonna be? Koramei fucked around with this message at 17:07 on May 17, 2016 |
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May 17, 2016 17:02
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Koramei posted:And $50 for the two expansions? That'd better include the content packs too. It says first two expansions "and its related content" so I imagine that it does Post-release Polish DLC free for everyone aparently
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So wait, are the tank packs additional in-game units that actually have an effect on play, or just pretty looking sprites like the CK2 and EU4 content packs?
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COOL CORN posted:So wait, are the tank packs additional in-game units that actually have an effect on play, or just pretty looking sprites like the CK2 and EU4 content packs? I'm pretty sure they're just eyecandy. Instead of looking like generic Medium Tank 2, it now looks like a Panzer III or Sherman. So your board game looks more authentic. edit: VVV - look man, I know we're all thinking it but you don't need to be mean and point it out. Psychotic Weasel fucked around with this message at 17:18 on May 17, 2016 |
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May 17, 2016 17:16
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So what's the Polish DLC? A screen door on your submarine? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha...hahaha
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COOL CORN posted:So wait, are the tank packs additional in-game units that actually have an effect on play, or just pretty looking sprites like the CK2 and EU4 content packs? You will not be able to build tanks unless you purchase the tank pack
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Sharzak posted:You will not be able to build tanks unless you purchase the tank pack You can totally build tanks but it's a microtransaction of 99 cents per tank.
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But why Poland? Do you really need a focus tree and unique models to spend three years building up and then get smashed by Germany and the Soviet Union? I mean, I know it's possible to survive as Poland but how many people are going to actually do that? Why not China or something?
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Kaza42 posted:But why Poland? You've seen the Paradox forums, right?
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It's the Purple Phoenix of Hearts of Iron preorder bonuses. 
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Athaboros posted:You've seen the Paradox forums, right? No, then it would be Serbia/Yugoslavia.
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Groogy posted:Why? A ton of wars were started during this era with economical growth as motivator. Also I want to know what nation you play as where you can avoid wars all together. I said try not succeed.
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Kaza42 posted:But why Poland? Do you really need a focus tree and unique models to spend three years building up and then get smashed by Germany and the Soviet Union? I mean, I know it's possible to survive as Poland but how many people are going to actually do that? Why not China or something? When the delays happened and people were happy because they figured that this would mean the game would get more polish, Paradox got some signals crossed.
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TheMcD posted:When the delays happened and people were happy because they figured that this would mean the game would get more polish, Paradox got some signals crossed. lmao
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Cross the streams. Add Pontus.
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How are you guys gonna ask "what country can I play for a pacifist Vicky 2 run?" and not mention Switzerland? 
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Kaza42 posted:But why Poland? Do you really need a focus tree and unique models to spend three years building up and then get smashed by Germany and the Soviet Union? I mean, I know it's possible to survive as Poland but how many people are going to actually do that? Why not China or something? China doesn't have indigenous tanks so it doesn't need special models, and it already has a unique focus tree
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walgreenslatino posted:China doesn't have indigenous tanks so it doesn't need special models, and it already has a unique focus tree It actually doesn't.
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How will these tank packs affect my NATO counters?
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quote:PC System They're moving to 64 bit. About time. It's a shame they've never back ported Clausewitz improvements to older games. EU4 and Stellaris run fine on my laptop, but CK2 is a total dog.
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ArchangeI posted:You can totally build tanks but it's a microtransaction of 99 cents per tank. no you fool, it's 99 cents to buy 100 tank mana.
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May 17, 2016 18:33
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I am now the proud owner of Johan Anderson's Hearts of Iron IV: Field Marshal Edition
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Kaza42 posted:But why Poland? Do you really need a focus tree and unique models to spend three years building up and then get smashed by Germany and the Soviet Union? I mean, I know it's possible to survive as Poland but how many people are going to actually do that? Why not China or something? Other than Paradox forums being very fond of my country for some reason, I would speculate it is also because of their longstanding deal with CDP. PDX games have always sold very well over here. e: Also, first to fight, the war started here, never surrendered, etc. mackintosh fucked around with this message at 19:11 on May 17, 2016 |
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Do you need the content packs to have the correct names of the tanks in the game (e.g. Sherman, Tiger etc. instead of Medium Tank I, Heavy Tank I etc.) or do they just affect the visual representation for people who don't appreciate the full awesomeness of NATO counters (e.g. a stupid people tax)?
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Poland games were some of my favorite in HoI2, I usually relied on gamey nonsense but in one I did manage to defeat both Germany and the USSR, which ranks second to my Sweden game where I annexed Japan.
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It's gotta be purely cosmetic. And to be fair there'll probably also be half a zillion Improved German Armor Models mods about 3 weeks after the game launches. e: also aside from China, Poland seems like one of the most relevant countries to include, who else would you guys suggest?
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The Cheshire Cat posted:I feel like if they ever make a Vicky 3, it would help a lot to base the warfare on the HoI model rather than EU - especially if they integrated the strategic planning options in HoI4. That way it would be less about micromanaging your elite troops and hordes of conscripts and more about setting up a front line and then ensuring your production and supply lines hold up, which I feel would fit the economic focus of the Victoria series better than the EU style army management. the thing about vicky 2 is that it starts as something like eu's warfare, napoleonic-era armies marching around, and smoothly transitions into ww1 as technology advances and populations grow. it's a neat trick, but the problem with trying to make two games at the same time is that you may not end up making either well...
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In my head I am thinking of a model where you move stacks around at the EU4 level of detail but they would position themselves in the territory at an HOI level detail Eh likely a bad idea
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There's another 25% discount on GMG that works for all editions: IRON25 Field marshal edition for $67.50 means you basically get one of the future DLCs for free, definitely gonna go with that now.
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Koramei posted:e: also aside from China, Poland seems like one of the most relevant countries to include, who else would you guys suggest? Yeah, that's fair. It was just a sort of surprise reaction, but it does make sense once I think about it. I'd still prefer China, or possibly Hungary, but Poland isn't as weird as I thought at first.
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Kaza42 posted:But why Poland? Do you really need a focus tree and unique models to spend three years building up and then get smashed by Germany and the Soviet Union? I mean, I know it's possible to survive as Poland but how many people are going to actually do that? Why not China or something? I don't know about China but I'm assuming some of southern Europe will be getting focus trees. It'd be a little weird to never have trees for Hungary, Romania, or Yugoslavia. Edit: When I play Texas I also get the USA to invade Haiti for me so I have enough pops to be at least a little viable. You can get a nice chunk of immigration late game too if you pass enough reforms and can snag a few colonies. vvvvvvvvvv Shark Sandwich fucked around with this message at 20:00 on May 17, 2016 |
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Groogy posted:Why? A ton of wars were started during this era with economical growth as motivator. Also I want to know what nation you play as where you can avoid wars all together. Texas is one of my favorite nations to play as in Vic 2 where I play passively. Sure, it starts out in a war, but the US comes to your rescue pretty quick and keeps you independent. Then it's just a matter of maintaining relations and maybe going after Oklahoma and New Mexico to make your borders pretty. Fun game though even without wars, just trying to survive as a nation that wasn't meant to be.
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The air and naval reorganization windows could be improved with some stats in the UI. Its much easier to organize air wings when you know the relative strength of the different planes you're moving around, would be more intuitive than "Interwar Bomber" and "Tactical Bomber I"
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I'm not sure if I'm going to get the Cadet or Colonel edition. Really don't care about the accuracy of the models, I'll probably turn them off.
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