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May 17, 2016 18:41
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that's some dumb poo poo, sir jackie
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May 17, 2016 18:52
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Sir Jackie is a smart man and I trust his opinion. He stands behind F1 Great Nico Rosberg. edit: On an actual serious note I think it was probably somewhere between a racing incident and mildly Rosberg's fault. I can think of any number of instances where one driver has forced another completely off the track with zero recourse or backlash because it was a paved run off, or more distance to the crash barrier. But I do think Rosberg really needed to show Lewis that he can't just walk over him if he has any chance of winning this championship and that meant letting that accident happen. F1DriverQuidenBerg fucked around with this message at 19:02 on May 17, 2016 |
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May 17, 2016 18:53
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Riso posted:Last true deserved British champion, Jackie Stewart about noted fraud, Poois Shamilton. hey man
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May 17, 2016 19:02
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wicka posted:bubble of delusion that makes reddit so preposterously poo poo.
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May 17, 2016 19:03
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actually lets not talk about other forums and what they do or don't do
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May 17, 2016 19:04
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Sir Jackie would say that reddit is poo poo
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May 17, 2016 19:05
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Reddit is now totally filled with edgy 14 year old boys and bitter divorcees, Buzzfeed is filled with 14 year old girls who think they are activists for change. Both are equally terrible.
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May 17, 2016 19:13
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SA is filled with depressed 30 year olds
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May 17, 2016 19:17
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Goetta posted:SA is filled with depressed 30 year olds 25-35 year olds who never really made it as far in life as they thought they would and therefore hate Max for his achievements and Red Bull for their method of recycling those who aren't quite good enough, because of their own personal failures.
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May 17, 2016 19:33
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Riso posted:Last true deserved British champion, Jackie Stewart That's not how you spell Damon Hill
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May 17, 2016 19:38
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Aqualung posted:25-35 year olds who never really made it as far in life as they thought they would and therefore hate Max for his achievements and Red Bull for their method of recycling those who aren't quite good enough, because of their own personal failures. This is me.
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May 17, 2016 19:39
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I thought it was Rosberg that threw the wheel out of the car, sure looked like a number 6 on the front
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May 17, 2016 19:47
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1500quidporsche posted:Sir Jackie is a smart man and I trust his opinion. He stands behind F1 Great Nico Rosberg. i think if lewis pulls out of that move at the last minute, and rosberg just clips his front wing or something, then you'd see rosberg get a penalty. but since lewis refused to budge, even though it was exceedingly obvious what was going to happen, it's hard to justify penalizing just rosberg. there's no rule against lewis being as stupid as he was, but there should be. plus, they cleanly took each other out and didn't touch anyone else. that's an ideal outcome.
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May 17, 2016 20:21
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djssniper posted:I thought it was Rosberg that threw the wheel out of the car, sure looked like a number 6 on the front It was definitely Hamilton, the car the wheel came out of was facing the barrier, Rosberg's car was pointing back at the track (that '6' is a petronas logo  )
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May 17, 2016 20:25
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Yeah Lewis was unbelievably stupid, there was zero possibility he was going to be better off on the grass versus backing out and I struggle to see how he thought he was going to get out of that. My view is that he lost control on the grass and that accident was kind of out of his control, but ya he was dumb to be there in the first place.
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May 17, 2016 20:31
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Jackie Stewart is not blessed
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May 17, 2016 20:34
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1500quidporsche posted:Yeah Lewis was unbelievably stupid, there was zero possibility he was going to be better off on the grass versus backing out and I struggle to see how he thought he was going to get out of that. My view is that he lost control on the grass and that accident was kind of out of his control, but ya he was dumb to be there in the first place. He was on the grass to avoid contact. It was probably too late to have slammed on the brakes by the time Rosberg tried to cut him off.
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May 17, 2016 20:36
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Goetta posted:He was on the grass to avoid contact. It was probably too late to have slammed on the brakes by the time Rosberg tried to cut him off. yeah but he was also flat out in the grass still trying to pass rosberg somehow instead of backing off and getting back on the tarmac. it's the kind of dumb poo poo you expected from lewis in 2007-08.
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May 17, 2016 20:39
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He probably would've finished overtaking Rosberg just in time to launch himself over the curbs even if he didn't lose it or peel off enough speed just from being on the grass. He should've backed off and filed back in.
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May 17, 2016 20:43
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Well Nico shouldn't have been blocking so aggressively when he was off the pace by so much.
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May 17, 2016 20:57
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Technically throttling down your engine is part of one move
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May 17, 2016 21:13
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enri posted:It was definitely Hamilton, the car the wheel came out of was facing the barrier, Rosberg's car was pointing back at the track Haha I'm dick for thinking that just, seen the red numbers and can't be seen from the cockpit
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May 17, 2016 21:49
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1500quidporsche posted:Sir Jackie is a smart man and I trust his opinion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ws_Bp7WYA
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May 17, 2016 21:54
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Just finished the race last night after too much scotch. After "The Crash" I thought to myself "I wonder how Ferrari is going to screw this up." I was not disappointed. Seeing you guys being in a huff about some downs toddler winning the race is actually pretty great though. gret posted:Well Nico shouldn't have been blocking so aggressively when he was off the pace by so much. Look at how wrong you are. MustardFacial fucked around with this message at 22:11 on May 17, 2016 |
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May 17, 2016 22:05
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I'm having a glance at a re-air of the 2008 Italian Grand Prix. In five minutes of viewing, Coulthard has locked intermediate tyres twice on the same lap, BLMW has spun with nobody anywhere near him, Hamilton keeps breaking off bits of his car from cutting the chicanes, and Brundle keeps emphasising the second syllable of "Vettel".
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May 17, 2016 22:22
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https://youtu.be/NTMLV114r_8
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May 17, 2016 22:45
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^^^ This conversation is usually cited as a slam dunk for senna talking about how over-caution is a trait of poor racing drivers and stewart is just playing the "nickpicky old guy" role (and possibly the "biased british press" role), so i'm not sure what you're getting at here. Also the ford tempo isnt that great. its actually 100% relevant to the conversation about the crash in spain, so good post. MattD1zzl3 fucked around with this message at 23:03 on May 17, 2016 |
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May 17, 2016 23:00
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My point is the Ford Tempo is a fine car.
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May 17, 2016 23:10
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1500quidporsche posted:My point is the Ford Tempo is a fine car. My Dad owned one of these. It was more Fraudulent than the Mercedes F1 team.
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May 17, 2016 23:25
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I bet a lot of those were bought in beige. Europe didn't have those or anything related to it. We had endless variations of the Ford escort and sierra instead. We don't talk about the Granada/Scorpio. Fun fact, Cosworth hated the Scorpio so much they put an engine in one version but refused to put their badges on the back until the last one in 1998 when ford tried to use them to shift more cars, it didn't work. The cosworths are the 2.9 L 24V and not the 2.9 L 12V if anyone cares, which you won't.
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May 17, 2016 23:50
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Human Grand Prix posted:Williams running a 1993-esque wing in testing. 
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May 18, 2016 00:44
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that's a pretty great indicator of the ridiculous downforce levels we'll see next year
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May 18, 2016 00:58
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DONT CALL IT A COMEBACK Also re: Honda woes, Sam Collins from Racecar Engineering was hypothesizing that the variable chamber injection technology was also being used by Honda on their Super GT engine, which makes sense because they've been struggling there as well - even ditching the hybrid this year hasn't solved the problem.
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May 18, 2016 01:28
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Can we just phone john toad and tell him to make that wing legal somehow and call it the 2017 regulations? (remove fuel flow and capacity limits completely while we are at it. raise the maximum weight of the car)
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May 18, 2016 01:52
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harperdc posted:DONT CALL IT A COMEBACK Do you have an article or something? I'm struggling to find anything on what this is and all the engines run direct injection now so I'm struggling to envision how this works or even what chamber is involved other than the cylinder itself. Honda's woes really are a combination of what wicka said (limited running/knowledge compared to other teams) and also the fact that the base engine was built around a core concept that fundamentally didn't work and they now have to adapt it to a new concept. Engines can be modular to a certain extent but there's a limit and if you're in search of peak power instead of cost savings then there's very little reason to reuse parts since you need every part to work as a package. Honda can only change so much poo poo at a time and I'm sure there's quite a few parts in that engine that they know they could change out for an extra couple of horsepower each but its just not worth wasting the tokens. Basically the token system is stupid and hosed Honda.
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May 18, 2016 02:14
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Alex Lynn looks like he's sitting pretty high in the car, is he a tall bloke?
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May 18, 2016 03:29
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Jackie Stewart was literally blessed, he saw multiple friends in the sport die and a teammate die at events he participated in, and also spent 20 minutes upside down off the road at Spa with aviation fuel leaking on him and survived. And then he campaigned for safety changes in the sport against such filth as the notorious Belgian Jacky Ickx and the entire British motorsports journalism industry, all of whom literally got and still do get erections when motorsports athletes are injured or killed because it's a SPORT OF GLADIATORS. And then he told Senna to stop crashing into things and Senna didn't listen and look what happened. And then he founded Red Bull Racing. It doesn't get much more blessed.
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May 18, 2016 04:00
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Also held a phenomenal race win record that stood for like 20 years until Prost pipped him, largely because he didn't die thanks to safety campaigns Jackie had a hand in. He's my favorite F1 driver for a reason. Also interesting trivia point: 1976 was the first year a driver DIDN'T die during the season and even then, Lauda had a drat good crack at it.
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May 18, 2016 04:09
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1500quidporsche posted:Do you have an article or something? Here's the articles I've seen mentioned. I think much of this is rumor and conjecture, some of which have been updated since these were written: http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/f1/ferraris-formula-1-jet-ignition http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/f1/f1-s-power-secret
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