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PCjr sidecar posted:The design stuff was pretty excellent; "I don't loving care, but...", and that Dang's jazzed-up black box was a black box with a green box on it. I could somehow see the Data Center People huddling around like a graven idol because it has some semblance of color on it.
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I like that Richard finally addressed the obvious in this episode, when he told Jack, "you can't fire us because you don't know how to use our IP". On another forum, I asked why he didn't flat out tell Jack that, like 2 episodes ago, so I find it very cathartic that he finally did 
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I kinda hate it that Jack flipped out at the end, felt really out of character. Not going to miss him though, his "compassionate manipulator" shtick had already run it's course. I guess he was just there to make the transition to whichever CEO they have planned to introduce later more natural. fake edit: I never thought that the knee-pads were anything more than just a safety measure for the actor, but I was definitely one of the people who expected an Ocean's Eleven plot twist. Guilty as charged, still think it was a great theory.
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Rexides posted:Guilty as charged drat, I was going to acquit.
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Avasculous posted:Oh no, I think you're right and that part was totally fine for her. I can see that, I still don't think it was out of character, really though. Jack's IPO'd a few billion dollar companies so I wouldn't call him a 'used car salesman' and he stated in this episode that offering the algorithm allowed him to get a deal 3x more lucrative than the initial deal they had. Compared to the algorithm itself having 0 value, it's an extremely easy decision for Laurie to make and the deal was probably great on paper until Gavin pulled another classic Gavin.
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Some of you have way too high an estimation of VC partners. The only parts of contracts they care about are the ones that protect their equity
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That just seemed like a weird deal. They make the box for this other company who then controls the algorithm and gets to resell the box? That makes no sense other than from a "makes any amount of money now" perspective.
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Rexides posted:I kinda hate it that Jack flipped out at the end, felt really out of character. Maybe you've lucked out and never encountered that type, but personally I've known a few people who projected a calm, successful, and confident business sense that shattered into horrific child-like temper tantrums when they couldn't reconcile their constructed persona to something that was happening in reality (ie: they didn't get their way and/or weren't showered with praise/adulation for a few moments).
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Rexides posted:I kinda hate it that Jack flipped out at the end, felt really out of character. I disagree, I think that the scene with him flipping out on Erlich in the previous episode shows that the calm, compassionate demeanor is pretty much reserved for manipulation. Since he had nothing to gain with Erlich, he didn't bother schmoozing him like he did when he was trying to get on Richard's good side. So when his gambit to put Richard in his place didn't work out because of Monica, he's sort of pushed into that same position. He has nothing left to gain until they can "reconvene" with a different board member.
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I've lost track of how the board of pied piper works at this point. I know Monica is in one of the Raviga seats, but she's on the board by name. How can Laurie just replace her directly on the board? Richard, Erlich, and Monica make three votes to not replace Monica as a board member. Laurie could still exit Monica from Raviga but she's still legally have the seat right? All irrelevant now but anyone understand this better than me?
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M_Gargantua posted:I've lost track of how the board of pied piper works at this point. I know Monica is in one of the Raviga seats, but she's on the board by name. How can Laurie just replace her directly on the board? Richard, Erlich, and Monica make three votes to not replace Monica as a board member. Laurie could still exit Monica from Raviga but she's still legally have the seat right? All 3 of Raviga's seats are given to the company and up to the managing partner to assign. Since Monica's been involved with them since day 1 and Richard specifically requested it, she's had a spot, but Laurie ultimately has final say as far as who actually speaks for Raviga.
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It's Raviga's seat, not Monica's, she's just their representing Raviga. It's up to Laurie to decide who gets to represent Raviga. Plus I don't think board members really get to vote on who can and can't be on the board. Edit: Beaten
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I don't think she is on the board by name- I think she was just a representative for Raviga's seat under Peter Gregory, and then Laurie let her stay on because richard requested her when he accepted the funding. Laurie bought 2 additional seats for Raviga from Russ which she took over. Presumably, Laurie can replace her at will from Raviga's end, just not mid meeting. Edit: beaten like a red haired stepchild
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Gavin pretty much saved Monica's rear end in addition to the Pied Piper crew at the right moment.
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I love how Erlich is just completely disregarded and isn't even given paperwork to look over. I know Monica said Laurie was probably just going to replace her on the board anyways, but it seems her position has been saved - or does she still need to worry about that? I mean, that $250M pricepoint for Endframe proves she made a good choice, right? edit: didn't read echo chamber's post oh well
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Cojawfee posted:That just seemed like a weird deal. They make the box for this other company who then controls the algorithm and gets to resell the box? That makes no sense other than from a "makes any amount of money now" perspective. This is almost exactly what my company did back during the dot com boom, we licensed our software and made a box for one large car manufacturer. It's scary how real most of this poo poo is, Mike Judge knows his poo poo.
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Oh yeah. White Label reselling of just about anything useful is a pretty hot commodity. Most of the stuff regarding companies themselves and how the power plays go down is pretty drat accurate, even if the individual tech stuff is technobabble.
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ElCondemn posted:This is almost exactly what my company did back during the dot com boom, we licensed our software and made a box for one large car manufacturer. It's scary how real most of this poo poo is, Mike Judge knows his poo poo. What's the point? is it just to make a really quick buck while someone else handles marketing and whatever?
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There is a distinct divide between companies selling a product and companies selling a brand. If you are selling a brand then you have to find someone else to manufacture you something to stick your logo on.
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Cojawfee posted:What's the point? is it just to make a really quick buck while someone else handles marketing and whatever? I'm sure there's other possible reasons, but remember that Jack earlier predicts that tech is in a bubble and Richard's 4 years to market plan is unworkable. Passing the buck and cashing out makes perfect sense in that context.
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Avasculous posted:I'm sure there's other possible reasons, but remember that Jack earlier predicts that tech is in a bubble and Richard's 4 years to market plan is unworkable. Passing the buck and cashing out makes perfect sense in that context. Based on the way our contracts limit our ability to engineer certain things that seem like common sense, I've had a suspicion for a long time that we're just collecting contracts so that we look more enticing to potential buyers. Basically, they've been trying to sell this company for a long time, making poo poo rear end deals that hinder us technically for the quick buck. But maybe that's just how business works, what do I know, all my business ventures have failed and I've had lovely ideas like "no overage charges".
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I've had to move a few times within Google, they even got the right moving boxes.Pope Guilty posted:Jack was ultimately another Russ Hanneman, interested only in a quick payout and not in actually building anything or establishing long-term viability.
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:I know Monica said Laurie was probably just going to replace her on the board anyways, but it seems her position has been saved - or does she still need to worry about that? I mean, that $250M pricepoint for Endframe proves she made a good choice, right? I could believe it either way. She could get canned for insubordination and Laurie would have a point, or she could get promoted and Laurie would have a point.
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Cicero posted:I've had to move a few times within Google, they even got the right moving boxes. Can't blame him, either. Who wants to drive a car with doors that open like this, when they can drive a car with doors that open like THIS? One thing I don't like is how Hooli is supposedly the fictional equivalent to Google, yet Hooli is run by idiots that make horrible mistake after horrible mistake. Does Mike Judge have something against Google or something? Because that's kind of the exact opposite of the way Google does things
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DrunkPanda posted:Can't blame him, either. Who wants to drive a car with doors that open like this, when they can drive a car with doors that open like THIS? Google's hosed up multiple things before, just like every tech company has.
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Its also important to note when using the Google/Hooli comparisons that we are witnessing a period of time in Hooli's company where they aren't ascendant but rather decedent and complacent. It was probably more important to mock the pretense of corporate culture when Mike Judge was pitching the premise. Hooli has now moved past the phase where they innovate and now they just buy out other companies similar to Microsoft.
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Dead Snoopy posted:Its also important to note when using the Google/Hooli comparisons that we are witnessing a period of time in Hooli's company where they aren't ascendant but rather decedent and complacent. It was probably more important to mock the pretense of corporate culture when Mike Judge was pitching the premise. Hooli has now moved past the phase where they innovate and now they just buy out other companies similar to Microsoft. The Surface line of hybrid laptop/tablets is innovative 
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DrunkPanda posted:One thing I don't like is how Hooli is supposedly the fictional equivalent to Google, yet Hooli is run by idiots that make horrible mistake after horrible mistake. Does Mike Judge have something against Google or something? Because that's kind of the exact opposite of the way Google does things Google+? Never heard of it.
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squidgee posted:Google+? Never heard of it. Look it up on your google glass
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I always viewed Hooli as an unholy Google/Apple combo.
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PCjr sidecar posted:Look it up on your google glass Is there any footage of it on Google Video? Maybe you can share it with me on Google Wave.
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May 18, 2016 05:27
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I sent you a link to the Knol page via Google Buzz.
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Boris Galerkin posted:I sent you a link to the Knol page via Google Buzz. [spoiler]You can never add apps in Google Hangouts
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A little late to the party, but this season will definitely end with Big Head being CEO. Although I believe having Gilfoyle as some sort of interim CEO would make for some good comedy, even if it doesn't make much sense. He's been shown as the most realistic and most capable of the bunch. Out of curiosity, is it possible for more seats to be made on a board? If only to get Russ back. TwoStepBoog fucked around with this message at 12:49 on May 18, 2016 |
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Loomer posted:I always viewed Hooli as an unholy Google/Apple combo. I always thought it was supposed to be some sort of fictional hybrid of many tech giants, including Google, Apple, Oracle, Microsoft, Amazon, etc, since there are aspects that map to a lot of different tech companies.
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Also semi-related: http://www.theonion.com/article/ayahuasca-shaman-dreading-another-week-guiding-tec-52941
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TwoStepBoog posted:A little late to the party, but this season will definitely end with Big Head being CEO. I do think that's possible, but I also think Erlich might bankrupt him, since he's basically taking control over Big Head's 20m and Big Head doesn't say no to anything.
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mrmcd posted:I always thought it was supposed to be some sort of fictional hybrid of many tech giants, including Google, Apple, Oracle, Microsoft, Amazon, etc, since there are aspects that map to a lot of different tech companies. Also since all of those companies exist in the SV universe it would be dumb to have a complete parody of one.
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