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Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Fullhouse posted:

that's a really vague series of statements so it's hard to tell but it comes off as remarkably petty on Reid's end

harry reid is extremely petty

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Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Fullhouse posted:

that's a really vague series of statements so it's hard to tell but it comes off as remarkably petty on Reid's end

After you lose a fight with one of those exercise bands you gotta take your victories where you can, no matter how petty

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:
Harry Reid brings guns to knife fights

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Fullhouse posted:

that's a really vague series of statements so it's hard to tell but it comes off as remarkably petty on Reid's end

Grayson runs a hedge fund that was invested in a gold mine known to use slave labor. Good on Reid for telling Grayson that he's a piece of poo poo straight up in front of everyone else.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005
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quote:

Reid served as chairman of the Nevada Gaming Commission from 1977 to 1981. When Jack Gordon, La Toya Jackson's future agent and husband, offered Reid a $12,000 bribe to get approval of new games for casinos, Reid brought in the FBI to tape Gordon's bribery attempt and arrest him. After FBI agents interrupted the transaction, as prearranged, Reid lost his temper and began choking Gordon, saying "You son of a bitch, you tried to bribe me!" 

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Concerned Citizen posted:

harry reid is extremely petty

Alan Grayson is a piece of poo poo though and absolutely deserves to get called out like that.



He's...he's not going to win the FL-SEN primary is he? That would be horrible, dude would get demolished in the GE because he's the Ted Cruz of the Democrats.

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

last i saw grayson was leading the polls (i dont think ive noticed a poll in a month or so though, maybe something's come out i missed, i don't follow florida politics especially). however, people were expecting that murphy's proven ability to run ahead of obama in his congressional district contrasted with grayson's inability to do the same in his, plus murphy's assload of money, plus the fact that murphy is centrist as gently caress and florida kinda is too, not to mention this gigantic pile of obvious poo poo to pay for ads attacking grayson on, would eventually eventuate in winning polling numbers. i guess there's still a ways to go yet

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

The FL senate primary isn't until August so who the hell knows, but I'm guessing either Dem candidate would lose to the Republican candidate because voters here were retarded enough to elect Rick Scott twice

Gyges posted:

Grayson runs a hedge fund that was invested in a gold mine known to use slave labor. Good on Reid for telling Grayson that he's a piece of poo poo straight up in front of everyone else.

Reasonable but this is sort of a strange thing to bring up unprompted at a caucus meeting and later act super proud of yourself for it, I wonder how long he'd been thinking up that sick burn

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

rick scott won in midterm years iirc so im guessing its more 'florida voters will make either of these guys a one term senator except that they probably wouldnt even let grayson win this year'

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

Fullhouse posted:

The FL senate primary isn't until August so who the hell knows, but I'm guessing either Dem candidate would lose to the Republican candidate because voters here were retarded enough to elect Rick Scott twice


Reasonable but this is sort of a strange thing to bring up unprompted at a caucus meeting and later act super proud of yourself for it, I wonder how long he'd been thinking up that sick burn

It wasn't unprompted. Grayson challenged Reid about Reid's support for Murphy in the Senate race (and apparently demanded that Reid say his name for some reason??). Reid told him he's a piece of poo poo and that he hopes he loses.

If you know anything about Grayson, you know that he's an aggressive rear end in a top hat who likes to start fights.

And with the way the general is shaping up the Dems have a shot at the Florida Senate seat, so I'd prefer they actually nominate a candidate who could win it.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Fullhouse posted:

The FL senate primary isn't until August so who the hell knows, but I'm guessing either Dem candidate would lose to the Republican candidate because voters here were retarded enough to elect Rick Scott twice

It's definitely going to depend on who the Republicans end up with, but they'll probably shoot themselves in the foot and go with the candidate closest to Attila the Hun. In presidential elections Florida is better than even odds to go Democrat, in off years even Rick Scott can win as a Republican.

Sadly I won't be able to vote in the Democratic Senate primary this year. I had to switch to Republican since our piece of poo poo State Attorney got one of her donors to qualify as a write in candidate for her positions, closing the primary and ensuring only Republicans decide her fate. Also it's my only real option to vote on who is going to be the new congressman for District 4.

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009

Fullhouse posted:

Reasonable but this is sort of a strange thing to bring up unprompted at a caucus meeting and later act super proud of yourself for it, I wonder how long he'd been thinking up that sick burn

From what Keith Ellison said, it sounds like Grayson interrupted everyone to pick a fight with Reid.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Gyges posted:

It's definitely going to depend on who the Republicans end up with, but they'll probably shoot themselves in the foot and go with the candidate closest to Attila the Hun. In presidential elections Florida is better than even odds to go Democrat, in off years even Rick Scott can win as a Republican.

Sadly I won't be able to vote in the Democratic Senate primary this year. I had to switch to Republican since our piece of poo poo State Attorney got one of her donors to qualify as a write in candidate for her positions, closing the primary and ensuring only Republicans decide her fate. Also it's my only real option to vote on who is going to be the new congressman for District 4.

Florida's always been an odd duck (though I guess it's rather typical overall) in that it's a swing state but its state government is largely Red so in order to make any meaningful votes at that level if not residing in the Miami area, registering Republican and voting in primaries becomes an unfortunate necessity.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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It helps the GOP significantly that the gubernatorial elections in this state keep falling during midterms

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Xelkelvos posted:

Florida's always been an odd duck (though I guess it's rather typical overall) in that it's a swing state but its state government is largely Red so in order to make any meaningful votes at that level if not residing in the Miami area, registering Republican and voting in primaries becomes an unfortunate necessity.

District 4 is always going to be super Republican as long as District 5 is all of the areas with people possessing a tan. I'm actually way more pissed off at Angela Corey getting her election closed by having a supporter qualify as a write in candidate. Her campaign manager helped the guy, who says he thinks she should be reelected and has donated to her, get on the ballot as soon as she got an actual challenger.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
https://twitter.com/FoxReports/status/730834290200748032

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005
Probation
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:laffo: "I DONT CARE RIGHT NOW"

while leaving: "ACTUALLY I CARE ENOUGH TO WATCH THE CALENDAR"

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

FAUXTON posted:

:laffo: "I DONT CARE RIGHT NOW"

while leaving: "ACTUALLY I CARE ENOUGH TO WATCH THE CALENDAR"

:thejoke:

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Hey guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfabKUomBdk

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981


drat he looks/sounds beaten down

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
My least favorite thing is definitely senators saying they stand up to Washington.

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax

FlamingLiberal posted:

It helps the GOP significantly that the gubernatorial elections in this state keep falling during midterms

Just like a majority of other states.

Seriously, I know Florida had a ballot initiative to change it but its not like gubernatorials during midterms is odd or even bad. Hell, you think you see Republican waves durring midterms now, just wait til you see what it looks like in a year when only a senatorial election (or, worse, only house elections) is on the agenda.

Though I must say that its not all that odd either, Ohio is another one of those states that is traditionally Republican at a lower level while PA is split fifty/fifty. And then on the other hand there's places like Kentucky and Arkansas that, at least historically, split the other way with Democratic state governments and Republican national representatives.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

lool https://twitter.com/aterkel/status/732316695524675584

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
Reid in full IDGAF mode is truly something to behold.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005
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He's earned it. Also Grayson is kind of like the Ted Cruz of the left with a bit less obstruction. He should be turfed out now to prevent him later on loving the country over to keep/win a seat, UCF votes be damned. It's an engineering-heavy school so most of those voters would just turn out to be assholes anyway.

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!
Looks like this year's RINO hunting season is off to a good start.

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McCain In Deep Trouble in GOP Primary; Trump, Clinton Close in AZ

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PPP's new Arizona poll finds that John McCain has a negative approval rating with Republican primary voters, and is at pretty serious risk of losing nomination for another term. Only 35% of GOP voters approve of the job McCain is doing to 50% who disapprove. He's in particularly poor standing with conservative voters. Among 'somewhat conservative' voters his approval spread is 33/52, and among 'very conservative' voters it drops all the way down to 18/67.

McCain is polling at only 39% in the Republican primary field. He's benefiting from having multiple opponents. Kelli Ward is at 26%, Alex Meluskey at 4%, Scott McBean at 3%, and Clair Van Steenwyk at 2%. 27% are undecided. McCain is very strong among moderates, leading Ward 60-10. But among 'somewhat conservative' voters he leads just 34-29, and with 'very conservative' ones he's down 35-28. When you narrow the field down to just a choice between McCain and Ward, it's a tie at 41%. Ward is polling this competitively at this point despite having only 41% name recognition.

Even if McCain does manage to survive the Republican primary, it's not going to be a walk in the park for him in the general. His overall approval rating is 34/52, and he leads Ann Kirkpatrick only 42/36 in a head to head match up. The race is close despite Kirkpatrick having only 58% name recognition at this point. If Ward advances to the general election it looks like this contest will basically be a toss up- she gets 37% to 35% for Kirkpatrick so it's pretty much a wash.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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As long as the seat goes Dem it will be a victory

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

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And the Democratic candidate for Senate in Kentucky is now an openly gay man. I'm happy with this choice. Of all the people we could pick to lose to Rand, this is the best one. After Kim Davis, and all the jokes about our state the coastal elites make, we could definitely use the good PR.

http://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Mayor-Jim-Gray-among-those-vying-for-a-US-Senate-seat-379758551.html

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

And the Democratic candidate for Senate in Kentucky is now an openly gay man. I'm happy with this choice. Of all the people we could pick to lose to Rand, this is the best one. After Kim Davis, and all the jokes about our state the coastal elites make, we could definitely use the good PR.

http://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Mayor-Jim-Gray-among-those-vying-for-a-US-Senate-seat-379758551.html

Hope he's a good enough standard bearer to keep your state house blue and RTW out

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

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Jerry Manderbilt posted:

Hope he's a good enough standard bearer to keep your state house blue and RTW out

State house will most likely be run against Matt Bevin who is turning out to be GOP Obama for the state.

His approval rating 6 months into his term is actually the exact same as Obama's statewide approval rating at 33%. This also makes him the most unpopular governor in the history of the state, being 2 points less popular than Ernie Fletcher and Paul E. Patton were at the height of their scandals.

To give you an idea of Kentucky's pain tolerance for corruption, Fletcher's scandal was pardoning every member of his administration after they were all indicted for corruption Gerald Ford style and Patton's scandal was giving out political favors for sex. Bevin managed to beat both of those just by being a tremendous rear end in a top hat.

BIG FLUFFY DOG has issued a correction as of 01:04 on May 18, 2016

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Well he did kill an extremely popular program in Kynect among other things, so I hope he isn't surprised

Franco Potente
Jul 9, 2010
Does Bevin's complete radioactivity put KY in play at the presidential level, or is it Trump country through and through?

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:
The short answer is that if Kentucky is in play, then Clinton is having an electoral college landslide not seen since Reagan.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005
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FlamingLiberal posted:

Well he did kill an extremely popular program in Kynect among other things, so I hope he isn't surprised

Chances are he's surprised since people elected him in part to get rid of Kynect. Sure not everyone in KY is to blame for that but there's probably a hell of a lot more than 33%.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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I thought there was a contingent of Bevin voters who thought he wouldn't follow through with it?

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Kentucky loves assholes.

reasoning: Louisville hiring Bobby Petrino twice

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax

Franco Potente posted:

Does Bevin's complete radioactivity put KY in play at the presidential level, or is it Trump country through and through?

Are you serious? I mean really.

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

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FlamingLiberal posted:

I thought there was a contingent of Bevin voters who thought he wouldn't follow through with it?

It's not just Kynect. He also has had a very unpopular budget filled with draconian cuts that led to a protracted budget fight, and had unexpected problems with Benefind which was intended to be a sister-system to Kynect for non-medical-based welfare which led to 50,000 people who qualified for welfare being kicked off of the roles due to a computer glitch. He tends to pick fights that are totally unnecessary such as his war with the Beshear dynasty, that as much I dislike perpetuating stereotypes about our state, can only be described as reminiscent of the Hatfield's and the McCoy's.

He's also botched some personal image issues, for example, he attempted to achieve a GOP majority house before November by appointing enough Democrats to statewide positions that Special Elections would give the GOP total control. (This is a really common tactic for Kentucky Governors to remove political opponents. It gets them out of the public eye, while being seen as a promotion and making your administration look bi-partisan. Beshear gave his opponent for re-election a lifetime judicial post, for example.) He released a video the night before the election showing him sneaking up on an empty House chamber at 11AM on a Monday, to rally his base by saying that the Democrats weren't doing their job. The Democrats responded by immediately releasing photos showing them in the office building across the street where the Legislature does all conference and caucus meetings and pointing out that the work-week doesn't start until the late afternoon on Monday so that Legislators from the far-west and east can spend the weekend in their districts. Matt Bevin looked stupid at best and dishonest at worst. It ended up back-firing so badly that the Democrats ended up gaining a seat in the election designed to wipe them out.

He also has bad habits which are incredibly easy to mock similar to the GOP's Golfing Obama Jokes. Chief among these is his habit of taking selfies which is so bad that the 2nd most popular nickname for him among Democrats after Beavis is Selfie Governor. He thought that this was an endearing character trait instead of something people picked up on to make fun of his narcissism, so he had his office start a Facebook contest called #BevinSelfie where he posts his favorite selfies he took in the last week, and whichever one gets the most likes becomes his Cover Photo. He began this contest while critiquing the General Assembly for not doing the jobs they were elected to do.

But aside from the Governor Gossip, no. Clinton's made enough poorly chosen comments about Coal, that she would be DOA in the state if she were running against the dog mayor of Rabbit Hatch.

EDIT:

quote:

Chances are he's surprised since people elected him in part to get rid of Kynect. Sure not everyone in KY is to blame for that but there's probably a hell of a lot more than 33%.

Accounting for the turn-out of an off-year election nobody was enthusiastic about, only 17% of the Commonwealth voted for him. It is entirely possible he has lost zero support.

BIG FLUFFY DOG has issued a correction as of 03:04 on May 18, 2016

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Franco Potente
Jul 9, 2010

Cliff Racer posted:

Are you serious? I mean really.

My question came from both Bevin's unpopularity and the higher turnout numbers for the KY Dem primary than the R primary. But, thinking on it more, I agree that it was kind of a silly question.

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