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boom boom boom posted:Not even the original Space Hulk was sold in regular stores? I'd just assumed it must've been, to have gained such a fan following
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SRM posted:Only the Ravenwing sergeant has a cloak. You get one of those guys on an upgrade sprue: Yeah, popped on EBay to find that my account has been disabled for verification and PayPal won't process transactions for some reason, annoying.
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Uroboros posted:Yeah, popped on EBay to find that my account has been disabled for verification and PayPal won't process transactions for some reason, annoying. I have an extra pair of the ravenwing robed legs from that sprue that I would be happy to send you for nomoney. Shoot me a PM if you are interested.
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SRM posted:I think it was; Battle Masters was, and it was coproduced by Milton Bradley. Space Hulk was GW, as was Advanced Space Crusade. Space Crusade and Heroquest were with Milton Bradley, and they had adverts in them for GW and White Dwarf carried articles for both games, including rules for adding other GW minis.
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ZachAttack posted:I have an extra pair of the ravenwing robed legs from that sprue that I would be happy to send you for nomoney. Shoot me a PM if you are interested. Definitely interested, will get to PMing soon, I'm just trying to collect the parts. These guys aren't on my immediate painting list yet. Got to finish my Demi company box and strike force ultra.
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boom boom boom posted:Not even the original Space Hulk was sold in regular stores? I'd just assumed it must've been, to have gained such a fan following This reminds me about something that has been bothering me since I found out 40k was a thing around 2003- around 1994 my aunt got me a boardgame for Christmas, and it came with no rules, and probably two dozen plastic minis. I have since tentatively identified half of them as 2nd edition monopose gretchin, and I'm pretty sure the other half were 2nd edition necrons (they were definitely skeletons with guns). The board LOOKED like what I now know is the Space Crusade board. The thing is, it came with only those two armies. Any idea what the hell I got? The two listed expansions on wikipedia were definitely not it. Did I get a second hand copy of Space Crusade with half the minis and the rules missing? I know for sure it was a GW product because I found a bunch of GW stamped bases when I was organizing my old legos a few years back.
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Germ posted:I've gotten tons of mileage out of my Rampage prince in a unit of 3 felarchs (2 venom blades, one power axe), 2 scat bikes, and 3 regular bikes. Having a viable close combat unit in an army that lives off of staying disengaged also makes things a lot more fun for my opponent. Nice. Yeah, my plan is to have the prince and his bike escort to work as a fast moving scatter laser platform that also has the ability to get into opportune assaults. (Since the reckless abandon move will let me choose when I am in 8 inches) I also plan on running a squad of malevolents as a deep striking harassment squad, then focusing on shooting with the rest of my army. Mainly Balestrikes and Hornets for antimech, Ghostwalkers for objective camping, Reavers in a deepstriking Falcon for deep objective taking, and a Phoenix for air support. If I need to go above 1500 points, I have a second Hatebringer coterie that is a mix of scat and lance bikes and a Nightwing.
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Alright, fess up, which one of you fed Faeit the rumor that there's going to be an 8th edition within the year?
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Arven posted:This reminds me about something that has been bothering me since I found out 40k was a thing around 2003- around 1994 my aunt got me a boardgame for Christmas, and it came with no rules, and probably two dozen plastic minis. I have since tentatively identified half of them as 2nd edition monopose gretchin, and I'm pretty sure the other half were 2nd edition necrons (they were definitely skeletons with guns). The board LOOKED like what I now know is the Space Crusade board. The thing is, it came with only those two armies. Any idea what the hell I got? The two listed expansions on wikipedia were definitely not it. Did I get a second hand copy of Space Crusade with half the minis and the rules missing? I know for sure it was a GW product because I found a bunch of GW stamped bases when I was organizing my old legos a few years back. That's Space Crusade.
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Yeah, this whole "8th edition is coming this fall, wait, maybe not, maybe next year, it's End Times Age of 40k Sigmar" crap is making me regret liking Spiky bits and BoLS on facebook. That and links to titty Necron models.
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PierreTheMime posted:Alright, fess up, which one of you fed Faeit the rumor that there's going to be an 8th edition within the year? Huh, Warhammer Fest itself.
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jadebullet posted:Yeah, this whole "8th edition is coming this fall, wait, maybe not, maybe next year, it's End Times Age of 40k Sigmar" crap is making me regret liking Spiky bits and BoLS on facebook. That and links to titty Necron models. Spiky Bits is like the Buzzfeed of Warhams posts; it's clickbaity as hell and makes my stomach turn. FINALLY, GW Answers our Top 10 Prayers! Number 7 Will Restore Your Faith in Humanity! The List That All Tournament Organizers are Banning! I Couldn't Believe it! You'll Shoot Your Dad When You Hear These Dark Angels Rumors! I Cried When I saw These Ten Amazing Conversions (13 Will Knock Your Socks Off!)
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The first step of grief is denial We from the fantasy thread welcome you into the void
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jadebullet posted:Yeah, this whole "8th edition is coming this fall, wait, maybe not, maybe next year, it's End Times Age of 40k Sigmar" crap is making me regret liking Spiky bits and BoLS on facebook. That and links to titty Necron models. If it weren't for tits, they would have been great alternate models at fair prices. Cyber-tits aren't even the most egregious of 3rd party models, or even from this company: they're the same ones with full-on puffy vulva on their alternate Mechanicus models.
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A new edition wasn't outright stated at Warhammer Fest, but pretty clear that a shake up & streamlining is being worked on which might as well be a new edition.
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Proletariat Beowulf posted:If it weren't for tits, they would have been great alternate models at fair prices. Cyber-tits aren't even the most egregious of 3rd party models, or even from this company: they're the same ones with full-on puffy vulva on their alternate Mechanicus models. I just went to the website. "Hey, these are actually some high quality sculpts, some pretty cool looking models. There's some really cool Tau Commanders here, like this----" "Naked Greater Good Commander" "....er....uh....er...." Just in case you really needed a naked Tau hiding behind a gun.... noooooo thanks wargame exclusive, no thanks. I'm good. Also I do love how everybody calls the factions by silly names to avoid copyright, I guess its harder to argue the models themselves are copyright infringement? (I mean they kinda are) So you've got "greater good" and "space rangers" and things like that. Its really on-the-nose so its not even like they're pretending to be legally distinct, but dare not use the "tau" name.
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Space Rangers, Royal Guard, Battle-Nuns, Buggers, Star People, the Dark Star People, the Robo-Skeletons, Zaphod42 posted:"Naked Greater Good Commander" How naked we talkin' here? 
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MrSlam posted:How naked we talkin' here? http://wargameexclusive.com/product-category/greater-good/ There's some legit badass models here, and I like having more female 40k figures period. But the huge cleavage and especially that "naked sniper" are things I'm not really in a hurry to buy. I wouldn't call it NSFW necessarily but they're definitely cheesecake. I mean at least Slaanesh figures have a reason for being naked. 
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The 2 new Japanese themed (more-so than regular tau I mean) Tau vets they just put up are pretty sweet though, I might pick them up.
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Yeaeeeeeh that's pretty much straight up IP theft. Some good technicaly good sculpts though.
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:The 2 new Japanese themed (more-so than regular tau I mean) Tau vets they just put up are pretty sweet though, I might pick them up. Yeah the tau commander with a cyber-katana and a Samurai flag looks pretty bad rear end.
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MrSlam posted:Space Rangers, Royal Guard, Battle-Nuns, Buggers, Star People, the Dark Star People, the Robo-Skeletons, http://wargameexclusive.com/shop/imperial-mechanics/naked-female-imperial-mechanic-eradicator-with-gravi-cannon-28mm/ About this naked. NSFW.
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah the tau commander with a cyber-katana and a Samurai flag looks pretty bad rear end. WS 2 I2 A2, baby.
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Given how Sigmar seems to have utterly failed as a replacement for WFB, to the extent that they are supposedly releasing a points system for it, it would be insanity to do it to 40k. Given the other moves the company have been making since Kirby returned to his home planet, I'm guessing any plans to Sigmar 40k have been buried under the new annex at Warhammer World.
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Gapey Joe Stalin posted:Given how Sigmar seems to have utterly failed as a replacement for WFB, to the extent that they are supposedly releasing a points system for it, it would be insanity to do it to 40k. Given the other moves the company have been making since Kirby returned to his home planet, I'm guessing any plans to Sigmar 40k have been buried under the new annex at Warhammer World. They're going to Warmahordes it, so you can play Sigmarines against Space Marines!
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Iron Crowned posted:They're going to Warmahordes it, so you can play Sigmarines against Space Marines! But which ones are the Space Marines?  Yeah, you think about that. It's pretty deep.
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Gapey Joe Stalin posted:Given how Sigmar seems to have utterly failed as a replacement for WFB, to the extent that they are supposedly releasing a points system for it, it would be insanity to do it to 40k. Given the other moves the company have been making since Kirby returned to his home planet, I'm guessing any plans to Sigmar 40k have been buried under the new annex at Warhammer World. I think a streamlining of the game is gonna happen at some point, but I doubt it'll be AoS levels of simplification. I'm thinking more 2nd ed 40k to 3rd ed 40k. AoS is apparently selling better than Fantasy was though.
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SRM posted:AoS is apparently selling better than Fantasy was though. how on earth is this possible?
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:how on earth is this possible? Fantasy was dying, which was why it got replaced.
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Gapey Joe Stalin posted:Given how Sigmar seems to have utterly failed as a replacement for WFB, to the extent that they are supposedly releasing a points system for it, it would be insanity to do it to 40k. Given the other moves the company have been making since Kirby returned to his home planet, I'm guessing any plans to Sigmar 40k have been buried under the new annex at Warhammer World. I'm hoping they just say "all detachments other than CADs are banned" That'd clean things up proper as far as I'm concerned. Well, that and releasing a new CSM, Orks and Tyranids codex that are actually balanced. Removing point values is moronic and hopefully they're learning their lesson from Sigmar.
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I really really like detachments though. I give no shits about organised competitive games, and usually only play with friends. So for us they just let you do really cool fluffy armies, and help to avoid the boring as gently caress lists made of entirely identical units you'd sometimes see.
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Detachments are unnecessary and railroad you into predetermined choices. The older versions of creating space marine chapters was just fine. A few army lists for chapters so beyond the norm like salamanders and space wolves is good too. But 10000 different detachments with all the special snowflake rules is just a slog.
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Gapey Joe Stalin posted:I really really like detachments though. I give no shits about organised competitive games, and usually only play with friends. So for us they just let you do really cool fluffy armies, and help to avoid the boring as gently caress lists made of entirely identical units you'd sometimes see. They offer some cool fluffy choices but for each of those there's a dozen ways to abuse the gently caress out of them and min/max them for something horribly un-fluffy, so that all your opponent's dudes get some passive bonus that you've never even heard of before that was apparently part of some Forge World or White Dwarf Insert you've never even seen. LingcodKilla posted:Detachments are unnecessary and railroad you into predetermined choices. The older versions of creating space marine chapters was just fine. A few army lists for chapters so beyond the norm like salamanders and space wolves is good too. But 10000 different detachments with all the special snowflake rules is just a slog. Yeah I agree. I loved the old "pick your own space marine chapter" rules and I wouldn't mind seeing warlord traits for each faction kinda pimped out and made into something like that, where you can pick a couple rules to flavor your army. But having so many detachments of varying effectiveness splintered across codexes, forge world books, magazine articles, internet articles, its just a mess. I much prefer things like "if you have a tzeench sorcerer then thousand sons count as troops" over "special detachment that has 8 elites and no troops and everybody gets shrouded" or whatever. That's more fluffy too IMO.
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SRM posted:I think a streamlining of the game is gonna happen at some point, but I doubt it'll be AoS levels of simplification. I'm thinking more 2nd ed 40k to 3rd ed 40k. AoS is apparently selling better than Fantasy was though. I mean we have serious gaylord, a goon who iirc lives in Nottingham and has a bunch of friends in the higher ranks of GW and Helen Highwater, an ex GW employee saying that it's been an complete and utter failure. They're bringing back points and tournament play in an attempt to court disenfranchised WFB players and iirc AOS was practically nonexistent at games day this year. We also have goons itt literally dreading the AoSification of 40k. These are all signs of a healthy game doing much better than its predecessor, apparently. Edit: I'm pretty sure GW also doesn't disclose sales figures so 
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Business Gorillas posted:I mean we have serious gaylord, a goon who iirc lives in Nottingham and has a bunch of friends in the higher ranks of GW and Helen Highwater, an ex GW employee saying that it's been an complete and utter failure. They're bringing back points and tournament play in an attempt to court disenfranchised WFB players and iirc AOS was practically nonexistent at games day this year. We also have goons itt literally dreading the AoSification of 40k. It's possible (and very plausible, actually) that AoS is selling better than Fantasy, but also still a failure in terms of its actual sales vs. projections. E: Also the bar for success for a new game, which requires all new printed materials, marketing, and design work, is much higher than for a release for an existing product. It cost much, much more to roll out AoS than it would have to keep releasing products for fantasy. So there's another hurdle that has to be cleared for an AoS "success," even if total sales/revenues are higher than fantasy. TheChirurgeon fucked around with this message at 18:25 on May 18, 2016 |
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Gapey Joe Stalin posted:Given the other moves the company have been making since Kirby returned to his home planet, I also forgot this. Kirby, who's major project and brainchild was AoS, was forced out of the company. More examples of things that happen when games are replaced and their replacements are more successful than their prdecessors
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