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Lots of fun to be had in a 4x like Civ without growing a million unit, dozen city empire. The exploration compoenent is very finite in terms of actual exploration, its really only discovering layouts of known quantities. Tall is fun, avoiding war and rebuffing large invasions is still a challenge. You just take away much of the micromanagement burden and needless repetition. Unless I need to open up new trade routes, sell extra citrus or discover you along with my printing press, rival civs can stay on their side of Pangea and do their own thing.
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Xelkelvos posted:That's totally not how I'm reading it. How I see it is the ability to combine "support" units like AA guns, great generals or maybe ranged units with typical melee units like cavalry or warriors We'll see. They didn't specifically mention that melee+ranged is impossible, but the two different mechanics they mentioned did not seem to allow for that. In my mind ranged units are not support, but "support" was never a hard mechanical concept anyway.
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Rexides posted:I would like to see some kind of "colony" mechanic that can act as a city in terms of border growth and resource acquisition, but doesn't contribute to the main pressure levers (military production, science, culture) the way a normal city can. Then maybe that can force players to actively expand and compete for land, and make turtling in strategies not as good, while not requiring too much cognitive power from those of us who want to build singular super cities. I remember that Civ III had a similar mechanic, but it was there merely to grab some distant resource that no one else had settled. Yeah that'd be good. If they really wanted to stick the "Tall vs. Wide" gameplay they could maybe have two types of settlement even? Like a City and a Town, where it wouldn't really be optimal to have more than 5 cities but you could comfortably shove out 15 towns or whatever.
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I really hope they bring this back as well as airfields. Useless to some, maybe, but I enjoyed using them as shuttle points for bombers/paratroopers. Handsome Ralph fucked around with this message at 18:11 on May 18, 2016 |
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May 18, 2016 18:08
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I hope the Dromons come back.
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May 18, 2016 18:48
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loving hexes? Again???
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CountFosco posted:loving hexes? Again??? Yeah man, where's my octagon/square tesselated tileset?
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May 18, 2016 19:19
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Hexes are better than squares for a strategy game. Easily the least controversial change in Civ 5 in my opinion.
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May 18, 2016 19:20
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CountFosco posted:loving hexes? Again??? Agreed. Worst of the shapes. I want to play as the leader of a human civilization, not as a loving bee.
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CountFosco posted:loving hexes? Again??? They're here to stay, sorry. I would prefer an arc-based free-form movement mechanism, but that's just not practical.
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May 18, 2016 19:28
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CountFosco posted:loving hexes? Again??? When are we going to get beloved triangles
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May 18, 2016 19:33
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The Human Crouton posted:Agreed. Worst of the shapes. I want to play as the leader of a human civilization, not as a loving bee.
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May 18, 2016 19:57
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What's wrong with a pentagon or even a decent heptagon instead?
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May 18, 2016 20:43
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This tidbit is interesting: 'As time goes on and farmland becomes less essential, you can start replacing those farms with suburban communities — called "neighborhoods" — to house more citizens.' From http://mashable.com/2016/05/11/civilization-6-reveal-details/ Every info I get about Civ 6 gets me more and more pumped.
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May 18, 2016 20:57
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Oh great! Now I can convert valuable farmland to copy pasted suburbs! Just like real life!
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May 18, 2016 21:00
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JVNO posted:Oh great! Now I can convert valuable farmland to copy pasted suburbs! Just like real life! Name the planned community after the farm it replaced. Collect $2,000 in HOA assessments each year from each house.
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May 18, 2016 21:05
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Poil posted:What's wrong with a pentagon or even a decent heptagon instead? equilateral pentagons can't tessellate
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Harmonia posted:This tidbit is interesting:
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May 18, 2016 21:30
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sarmhan posted:I'm pretty sure that's just a bad quote- it seems completely redundant with districts, which we know basically fill the same role. It could be that your city has a population cap, which building these suburban districts could help alleviate. Want to grow above size 10? You're gonna need some sprawl. Man, protecting cities is going to be a bitch in Civ 6.
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May 18, 2016 21:39
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"Civ IV players talked about Cottage Spam on Elizabeth a lot, we found a way to appease them!"
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May 18, 2016 21:44
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majormonotone posted:equilateral pentagons can't tessellate  I'd play Civ on that. Microplastics fucked around with this message at 23:59 on May 18, 2016 |
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May 18, 2016 21:46
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYGVPk62rnykTJZeY_0NQIDGVk0XAMP8XdadWGa0hUIVZheziO Yeah, there's room for a whole 12 cities! Actually, a micro-4X game where every tile is a city could potentially be interesting. No terrain to speak of, but diplomacy becomes incredibly important and every city is always vulnerable to attack.
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sarmhan posted:I'm pretty sure that's just a bad quote- it seems completely redundant with districts, which we know basically fill the same role. I imagine "neighborhoods" or suburbs to be a type of district, like market, academy, docks, etc.
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May 18, 2016 21:52
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Harmonia posted:This tidbit is interesting: Another way to phrase it: Cottages are back baby!  (I'm beginning to wonder exactly to what extent they're going to turn city maintenance into a SimCity minigame though)
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Star Warrior X posted:I imagine "neighborhoods" or suburbs to be a type of district, like market, academy, docks, etc.
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May 18, 2016 22:15
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It's not like Civ hasn't had PopCaps in the past - though that went away after Civ3. Aqueducts in 1 through 3, Hab Complexes in AC (with faction related changes), and 3 also requires hospitals to go past 12.
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May 18, 2016 22:20
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Rexides posted:They should make sure that the engine supports runtime terrain modifications. Not because I want anything specific to that in Civ 6, I just want proper terraforming in Civ:BE 2 Think about how cool it would be in a multiplayer game to be able to build a dam and cut off the river bonuses to an opposing city
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May 18, 2016 22:31
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The Glumslinger posted:Think about how cool it would be in a multiplayer game to be able to build a dam and cut off the river bonuses to an opposing city 
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May 18, 2016 22:36
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I want a stealth worker I can use to build a mountain pass so I can backstab your "impregnable" capital.
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May 18, 2016 22:44
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The AI in this had better be willing to trade me luxury resource for luxury resource because the most glaringly wrong thing in V is asking to straight trade marble for whales and the AI demanding that you give it marble, silver, furs and a pile of cash. What even causes it to be so unreasonably one sided in trade?
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May 18, 2016 23:54
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The French Army! posted:The AI in this had better be willing to trade me luxury resource for luxury resource because the most glaringly wrong thing in V is asking to straight trade marble for whales and the AI demanding that you give it marble, silver, furs and a pile of cash. What even causes it to be so unreasonably one sided in trade? I assumed that only triggered when you were trading for their last copy of a luxury
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The Glumslinger posted:I assumed that only triggered when you were trading for their last copy of a luxury It also triggers if they don't like you or if you're way ahead
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The Human Crouton posted:Agreed. Worst of the shapes. I want to play as the leader of a human civilization, not as a loving bee. jfc i cant believe i need to explain elementary poo poo the problem with square tiles, where diagonal movements cost as much as cardinal movements, is that it becomes optimal to always move on diagonals every single turn, because such moves are ~40% further than cardinal moves it also gets rid of the jankiness of the "big fat cross", where cities can't access tiles 2-diagonal from the centres i regularly poo poo on civ5 but its hexes are one of its major advantages over civ4. the only downside is that 2-rings of hexes has only 18 tiles, while the full BFC has 20 tiles, meaning that hex cities wont be as big as BFC cities. civ5's solution was to expand city sizes to 3-rings, which was a mistake because it set the game down the path of tiny numbers of cities
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For a few Civ ideas that haven't been seen before in the series, here's a few random ideas while I'm bored: The Seminole, lead by Osceola The Navajo, lead by Manuelito The Goths, lead by Alaric I Argentina, lead by Cornelio Saavedra Kongo, lead by Nzinga a Nkuwu/Joao I
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I think the larger ring of tiles isn't really connected to the number of city thing you're talking about.
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Phobophilia posted:jfc i cant believe i need to explain elementary poo poo Good point, but I think you should have quoted the post I quoted instead of my joke post denouncing hexagons as the worst shape in general, and also equating using them in any fashion to only be acceptable if one is a bee.
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May 19, 2016 00:37
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why wouldn't you want to be a bee anyway, bees are cool
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The French Army! posted:The AI in this had better be willing to trade me luxury resource for luxury resource because the most glaringly wrong thing in V is asking to straight trade marble for whales and the AI demanding that you give it marble, silver, furs and a pile of cash. What even causes it to be so unreasonably one sided in trade? They do this because they hate you. They give much more balanced trades if they don't hate you as much (the Civ5 AI always hates you at least a little, it has no concept of the idea of friendship).
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Should Civ AI play like a vague approximation of their real-world counterpart with some variance, or play like a player trying to win the game with some variable traits? Or some other way?
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https://twitter.com/civgame/status/732981091208822789 Sounds like we'll be getting some more info soon. I know Marbozir was mysteriously in LA earlier in the week as well.
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