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Heavy Metal posted:Maybe they could come up with a new Quake setting, but if going nostalgia I'll take a Quake 1 game. Agreed we don't need another strogg game. Or maybe they could throw in some nods to both or something, since you can hop from setting to setting in Quake. Yeah I'd be okay with a few strogg levels as part of one episode as long as they don't dominate the whole thing. You could effectively replace the techbase zombies with strogg. Just make sure you still have ogres and knights and poo poo like that. RealSovietBear posted:I didn't like the multiplayer, so after I finished the singleplayer campaign I spent a few days messing around in the SnapMap editor which I really enjoy (I find its restrictions fun to work with). Spent three days working on a map that I uploaded yesterday and it was featured in RockPaperShotgun today. I guess I should stop now that I've made "the best SnapMap for now and forever"... No loving poo poo, you made Hot Potato Doom? Dude, congrats.
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RealSovietBear posted:I didn't like the multiplayer, so after I finished the singleplayer campaign I spent a few days messing around in the SnapMap editor which I really enjoy (I find its restrictions fun to work with). Spent three days working on a map that I uploaded yesterday and it was featured in RockPaperShotgun today. I guess I should stop now that I've made "the best SnapMap for now and forever"... That was you? Hilarious. You should link to your run-through video at least. It's too bad Mirror's Edge 2 is almost finished... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h9BYuVf0_I Gumbel2Gumbel fucked around with this message at 21:16 on May 18, 2016 |
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fishmech posted:Yeah but which Quake? A new one in the style of Quake 1? A new one in the style of Quake II or 4? A new one in the style of Quake III? Quake 1 for sure - ideally not Strogg from 2/4 and not solely an MP style like Quake 3 was. Interestingly enough, here's a little blurb from the Quake wiki: quote:In June 2011, John Carmack made an offhand comment that id Software was considering a remake to the "...mixed up Cthulhu-ish Quake 1 world and rebooting [in] that direction." I know Carmack left id back in 2013, but let's hope this ends up being the case for a Quake reboot  wanna see a Shambler using the latest id Tech engine and be able to caress Shub Niggurath's sweet tentacles in VR
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RealSovietBear posted:I didn't like the multiplayer, so after I finished the singleplayer campaign I spent a few days messing around in the SnapMap editor which I really enjoy (I find its restrictions fun to work with). Spent three days working on a map that I uploaded yesterday and it was featured in RockPaperShotgun today. I guess I should stop now that I've made "the best SnapMap for now and forever"... Kudos! I'll check that out. Zaphod42 posted:Yeah I'd be okay with a few strogg levels as part of one episode as long as they don't dominate the whole thing. I especially want some weird deathtrap mazes of death.
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Quick question, what can I use to record some Doom gameplay? Neither the built in DVR in Windows 10 or the Nvidia Experience thing (ShadowPlay?) seem to work so I'm looking for a free simple non-terrible option.
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Agoat posted:How do you edit a Snapmap that you've saved but not published? My Maps then click on it and Edit.
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Yoshimo posted:Quick question, what can I use to record some Doom gameplay? Neither the built in DVR in Windows 10 or the Nvidia Experience thing (ShadowPlay?) seem to work so I'm looking for a free simple non-terrible option. Try OBS! https://obsproject.com/ Jum-Jum posted:My Maps then click on it and Edit. D'oh. Thank you.
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If they make a new Quake, I sort of hope they make it kind of the metaverse of the id games. So keep the eldritch nightmare setting, but let the slipgates sort of seep into other realities like Doom / Quake 2 / Rage / Wolfenstein etc. Maybe even Fallout or Morrowind. I'd be neat if done well, but I don't know if it could be done in a cool dimensional interloper way and not a dumb fan service easter egg way.
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Zaphod42 posted:I want a sequel to quake 1 really bad, but I would expect a sequel to quake 3 is more likely, and I'll take that too. That'd be my second preference. But the dark lovecraftian horror of quake 1 is something Id hasn't quite returned to since, and I'd love to see what they could do with lovecrafitan cosmic horror given modern technology. And as much of Quake 1 was a hodgepodge of themes, the mix of techbase and medieval castle and interdimensional nightmare planes worked really well. Quake 3 visuals were fairly Quake1/Doom style. Lots of pentagrams, bones, skulls, lava, hell, all that jazz. They also sped up the movement and rockets ala quake 1, brought back the nailgun and lightning gun ala quake 1. Quake 3 was more of a sequel to Quake 1 visually and game play wise than Quake 2, and that's a good thing.
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MysteriousStranger posted:Quake 3 visuals were fairly Quake1/Doom style. Lots of pentagrams, bones, skulls, lava, hell, all that jazz. They also sped up the movement and rockets ala quake 1, brought back the nailgun and lightning gun ala quake 1. Quake 3 was more of a sequel to Quake 1 visually and game play wise than Quake 2, and that's a good thing. Only a little bit. Have you played through all 4 episodes of quake? (don't mean to be all  but it kinda matters)There's a ton of variation in quake 1. Its pretty much daikatana before daikatana, with Romero just throwing everything at the wall he can get to stick. There's lots of pentagrams and bones and lava, but there's also just some really weird nightmare-castles and things like that. Really surreal abstract spaces. Quake 3 pretty much didn't even touch those things. Same with the medieval dark-wizard tileset stuff.
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I'd play the gently caress out of a new Quake 1 type game. I loved that game and it's weird techno-satan-wizard-cthulu mash up.
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Zaphod42 posted:Only a little bit. Have you played through all 4 episodes of quake? (don't mean to be all I played through it a while ago. I still play Quake World (ie Quake1) DM and 1v1 duels though. And there were some castle sort of things in Quake 3. I've played through all the Quakes SP games, but I mostly stuck with Quake for the MP side of things. For me id was Doom SP, Quake MP. Which probably explains why I thought Quake 2/4 were not all that good.
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Lodin posted:I for one shed a tear the first time I picked up one of the small Marine figures. When I saw the fistbump and finger sparkle, it made me realize something else I think. Doom Guy isn't killing demons because he's just so pissed off at demons that he's consumed by it... he's having fun! He's in a good mood! Doom Guy thinks the most kick rear end thing you can possibly do in this universe and all others is to kill the ever loving gently caress out of some demons. Doom Guy is a thrill junky, and every time you think he's showing just how broken and angry he is, he's really just getting impatient about not being able to kill demons right this second. Underneath that mask, he probably just alternates between these two emotions constantly: this:  and this: 
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MysteriousStranger posted:I played through it a while ago. I still play Quake World (ie Quake1) DM and 1v1 duels though. And there were some castle sort of things in Quake 3. I've played through all the Quakes SP games, but I mostly stuck with Quake for the MP side of things. For me id was Doom SP, Quake MP. Which probably explains why I thought Quake 2/4 were not all that good. Quake 2's multiplayer was awesome I'd say. And the music was freakin' awesome, some bits of DOOM 2016's music reminds me of that.
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Heavy Metal posted:Quake 2's multiplayer was awesome I'd say. Ehhhhh........ It's not that I don't agree! I loved it, but it wasn't nearly as good as Quake World or Quake 3. Quake World and Quake 3 moved much, much faster. Two felt too slow. Also the rocket, grenade, and other projectiles weren't that fast. Layer on top of that levels with really stupid items (cough breathing masks, the bfg in it, and more) and you had a mess. Then there was the issue of chaingun/railgun hitscan dominance and the obscene plasma weapon and moronic machine gun that forced your aim up. Compared to a lot of other games at the time it was awesome, but compared to Quake 3 or Quake World it was a problematic mess and not nearly as fun.
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GreatGreen posted:When I saw the fistbump and finger sparkle, it made me realize something else I think. Doom Guy isn't killing demons because he's just so pissed off at demons that he's consumed by it... he's having fun! He's in a good mood! Doom Guy thinks the most kick rear end thing you can possibly do in this universe and all others is to kill the ever loving gently caress out of some demons. Doom Guy is a thrill junky, and every time you think he's showing just how broken and angry he is, he's really just getting impatient about not being able to kill demons right this second. a vg post
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MysteriousStranger posted:Compared to a lot of other games at the time it was awesome, but compared to Quake 3 or Quake World it was a problematic mess and not nearly as fun. What about the CTF mod with the grappling hook? And how about lots of weird custom models? Quake 2 is the only game I played with lots of wacky models like playing as Mega Man etc. it was a magical time.
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Thank god Doom 4 didn't end up like this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjy-1vbkQMo Rage of Duty. GreatGreen posted:When I saw the fistbump and finger sparkle, it made me realize something else I think. Doom Guy isn't killing demons because he's just so pissed off at demons that he's consumed by it... he's having fun! He's in a good mood! Doom Guy thinks the most kick rear end thing you can possibly do in this universe and all others is to kill the ever loving gently caress out of some demons. Doom Guy is a thrill junky, and every time you think he's showing just how broken and angry he is, he's really just getting impatient about not being able to kill demons right this second. You don't have to guess what his expressions are because Doom 1 showed us. He varies beteween shifty eyes looks and this:  Reminder that Doom's origin is Aliens (the movie) and Evil Dead. Doomguy is basically Ash. And Ash had a good time when killing. THIS IS MY BOOMSTICK!
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I agree with the people who say Quake 1 style but adding on one of the worlds/dimensions/timelines(?) being strogg-infested would be the best way to make a new Quake game.
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Heavy Metal posted:What about the CTF mod with the grappling hook? And how about lots of weird custom models? Quake 2 is the only game I played with lots of wacky models like playing as Mega Man etc. it was a magical time. CTF with grapple hooks was in Quake 1 as well. But Quake 1 was faster, with better weapons, and less hitscan dominated, thus better!
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Tim Raines IRL posted:I picked this up last night and started to play through it. I'm not far at all, but it seems really solid to me. I just beat the game on UV from start to finish on my first run, on PS4. It is difficult as you are adjusting to the game, but it gets easier with weapon upgrades and even better when you get the SSG and Chainsaw. I used the scope on machine gun to obliterate imps with no hassle, but it does need the upgrades to work well.
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RealSovietBear posted:I didn't like the multiplayer, so after I finished the singleplayer campaign I spent a few days messing around in the SnapMap editor which I really enjoy (I find its restrictions fun to work with). Spent three days working on a map that I uploaded yesterday and it was featured in RockPaperShotgun today. I guess I should stop now that I've made "the best SnapMap for now and forever"... Typed in the map ID they list on RPS (ZGLRZC92) and it turns up not showing anything. Am I doing this wrong? Edit: Nevermind... found it with "potato" as a search term. Essobie fucked around with this message at 22:18 on May 18, 2016 |
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Just do Doom vs. Quake. Doomguy has to fight the Strogg and Matthew Kane has to fight demons. Then they team up for co-op missions, right around the time some rear end in a top hat thinks to "Strogg-ify" demons.
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MysteriousStranger posted:CTF with grapple hooks was in Quake 1 as well. But Quake 1 was faster, with better weapons, and less hitscan dominated, thus better! Quake 2 had better maps, and you could hit a button to fill a room with lava! (I prefer Quake 1 by far for single-player though) Wanderer posted:Just do Doom vs. Quake. I love that you know the Quake 4 guy's name (I just googled that). It's like remembering the name of the protagonist from Avenging Force (1986), which is Matt Hunter of course. Fun bit of trivia, Chuck Norris plays another Matt Hunter in another fine 80s action film Invasion U.S.A.! It's crazy! Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 22:25 on May 18, 2016 |
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Wanderer posted:Just do Doom vs. Quake. I love this more than you can possibly know.
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Heavy Metal posted:Quake 2 had better maps, and you could hit a button to fill a room with lava! (I prefer Quake 1 by far for single-player though) Outside of DM1TheEdge I don't agree!
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Man I don't know if going straight into Nightmare was the best idea when my last classic-FPS experience was plaything through Marathon again a year ago, but it sure is fun when I actually manage to progress. Am I going to regret this?
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MysteriousStranger posted:Outside of DM1TheEdge I don't agree! Quake 2 had a party atmosphere and was like hanging out with Motley Crue on tour!
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Black Griffon posted:Am I going to regret this? The game very suddenly spikes in difficulty when you get to hell, so you'll find out right then and there!
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Black Griffon posted:Man I don't know if going straight into Nightmare was the best idea when my last classic-FPS experience was plaything through Marathon again a year ago, but it sure is fun when I actually manage to progress. I went through for the first time on Hurt Me Plenty and had a blast. I've since started a new game on Nightmare and it's really fun but still kicking my rear end and I'm dying a lot. If you're not on your A game I don't know if I'd start at the hardest difficulty, personally. Nightmare is hard.
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Black Griffon posted:Man I don't know if going straight into Nightmare was the best idea when my last classic-FPS experience was plaything through Marathon again a year ago, but it sure is fun when I actually manage to progress.  Somebody asked the same question like last page. I dunno dude, it depends upon what kinda guy you are. Don't ask other people to make that decision for you. Does it get harder? Yeah. Do you get more guns? Yeah. Does that balance? I don't know. Nightmare is hard. Do you want it to be hard?
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Wanderer posted:Just do Doom vs. Quake. This would rule so hard, do this and/or make the Quake reboot one where you can hop among dimensions and each dimension has it's own hosed up monsters/aliens/elder beings/whatever. Make the story sort of like Doom in that the US military found a way to open portals to other dimensions (instead of a Hell portal) and all the hosed up, random characters are due to different monsters traversing the portals to other dimensions. Like, a knight is kinda random and maybe doesn't make sense in the Quake universe, but make that knight come from a messed up medieval "dark ages" dimension and build a small world/level around that concept. Better yet, bring on a guy like Guillermo del Toro to do the Giger/Lovecraft type horror dimension and pick his brain on some other weird/cool/creepy designs.
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https://www.twitch.tv/draqu_ Counterpoint: Draqu is now doing Nightmare speed runs Apparently he died over 10 times on the previous run despite being the second person to complete Ultra Nightmare.
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BOOTY-ADE posted:This would rule so hard, do this and/or make the Quake reboot one where you can hop among dimensions and each dimension has it's own hosed up monsters/aliens/elder beings/whatever. Make the story sort of like Doom in that the US military found a way to open portals to other dimensions (instead of a Hell portal) and all the hosed up, random characters are due to different monsters traversing the portals to other dimensions. Like, a knight is kinda random and maybe doesn't make sense in the Quake universe, but make that knight come from a messed up medieval "dark ages" dimension and build a small world/level around that concept. It doesn't have to make sense. Just kitbash all the poo poo into a single game and let you murder all of it! There's not reason they can't do Quake World and Quake Wars as two different Quakes. As long as both get made everyone wins, twice!
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:https://www.twitch.tv/draqu_ Yeah but he beat the game a long time ago. I watched him, it was amazing. Dude makes me wanna practice my bunny jumping. I probably wouldn't recommend nightmare for your first run, but do what makes you happy if that's your thing.
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Wanderer posted:Just do Doom vs. Quake. That's quakeguy/ranger to your, son. 
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Klaus88 posted:That's quakeguy/ranger to your, son.  He was talking about Quake 4 guy though, not Quake 1 guy.
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I just like the idea of a double-silent-protagonist buddy movie/action film where they smash demons' skulls open and communicate almost entirely in nods and fist-bumps. Make a co-op glory kill where they fist-bump through a demon's skull.
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