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Teenage Fansub posted:In Future Quest you can tell Parker left JL United too soon. He's still using the mysterious space and time warping anomalies concept. Oh Lobo went back to normal.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Oh Lobo went back to normal. Considering that's an alternate universe, not really. He was also somehow even more of a callous, uncaring jerk than Lobo normally is (was).
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May 18, 2016 20:53
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Finster Dexter posted:I've been out of comics for a few years now. Superman has a kid? jfc Well, the new comics haven't come out, but 'Batman and Robin' and his solo Robin series were great. Dad Superman is the Superman from before the New 52 reboot. There was an event that brought parts of different DC eras together and him, Lois and the kid they had during it ported over and have been living in secret in the N52 the whole time. The current miniseries 'Lois and Clark' is about them, and he'll take over as Superman for Rebirth.
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May 18, 2016 21:11
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Harley Quinn first comic appearance will be reprinted (with a new cover by Jonboy Meyers) as an exclusive for Megacon http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/look-dc-and-megacon-bring-back-harley-quinns-first-comic-with-a-modern-variant-twist
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May 18, 2016 22:35
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Teenage Fansub posted:Well, the new comics haven't come out, but 'Batman and Robin' and his solo Robin series were great. I haven't really followed the dad Superman series but have they gone into it all about how insanely hosed up it must be for everyone Clark and Lois knows to be dead? Like Lois' entire family is dead, Clark's parents are dead, their adopted son Chris is dead, Jimmy Olsen is dead, Perry White is dead, ect, ect, and they're all replaced by similar-but-different versions.It seems like that must be insanely depressing that they can't actually reference anyone they ever knew without being reminded that they all got effectively murdered by Barry Allen.
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May 18, 2016 22:39
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ImpAtom posted:I haven't really followed the dad Superman series but have they gone into it all about how insanely hosed up it must be for everyone Clark and Lois knows to be dead? Like Lois' entire family is dead, Clark's parents are dead, their adopted son Chris is dead, Jimmy Olsen is dead, Perry White is dead, ect, ect, and they're all replaced by similar-but-different versions.It seems like that must be insanely depressing that they can't actually reference anyone they ever knew without being reminded that they all got effectively murdered by Barry Allen. Nope. The closest Jurgens came to adress that issue was in two pages back in issue three were Superdad almost blew his cover helping Bruce because he felt lonely.
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gninjagnome posted:Jim lee is saying on his facebook page that "The nooks and angles are meant to evoke the Superman "S", the Wonder Woman "WW" emblem and the Bat logo" Look at the upper right of the C and compare to the upper right of the Superman S. The upper left of the D looks like the wing on the Batman logo. Inside the D and C corners are triangles that look like the points on Wonder Woman's. I totally believe it is real and intentional because of how poo poo and muddled it is. You just know they told an intern to rewrite DC so it looked like their logos and that is what they got. DC is just loving awful.
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ImpAtom posted:I haven't really followed the dad Superman series but have they gone into it all about how insanely hosed up it must be for everyone Clark and Lois knows to be dead? Like Lois' entire family is dead, Clark's parents are dead, their adopted son Chris is dead, Jimmy Olsen is dead, Perry White is dead, ect, ect, and they're all replaced by similar-but-different versions.It seems like that must be insanely depressing that they can't actually reference anyone they ever knew without being reminded that they all got effectively murdered by Barry Allen. Lois is burying those feelings into raising Chris and in her solo reporting work -- she specifically said so long as she has Jon and Clark she'll be able to push on. Superman feels uneasy in this world because of how edgy it is or whatever and has been doing behind the scenes superhero work. I'd say he doesn't see his universe as dead and this is just another universe they got stranded on, but he's outright said his world died so that's not really the case. I guess he's seen it happen a few times so it might be a case of "welp, it'll probably fix itself eventually." There's not much he can do about it, he doesn't even know about Flashpoint or why it happened. Heathen posted:Look at the upper right of the C and compare to the upper right of the Superman S. The upper left of the D looks like the wing on the Batman logo. Inside the D and C corners are triangles that look like the points on Wonder Woman's. It was actually a very successful design consultancy called Pentagram.
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May 18, 2016 22:52
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ImpAtom posted:I haven't really followed the dad Superman series but have they gone into it all about how insanely hosed up it must be for everyone Clark and Lois knows to be dead? Like Lois' entire family is dead, Clark's parents are dead, their adopted son Chris is dead, Jimmy Olsen is dead, Perry White is dead, ect, ect, and they're all replaced by similar-but-different versions.It seems like that must be insanely depressing that they can't actually reference anyone they ever knew without being reminded that they all got effectively murdered by Barry Allen. At the end of Convergence, Clark flew into the original Crisis to allow his world and every other continuity to live on in an infinite multiverse. What that even really means is unclear cause Convergence was a pile of nonsense, but that's the implication.
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May 18, 2016 22:55
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Teenage Fansub posted:At the end of Convergence, Clark flew into the original Crisis to allow his world and every other continuity to live on in an infinite multiverse. What that even really means is unclear cause Convergence was a pile of nonsense, but that's the implication. The actual pages in that issue very clearly showed the Convergence worlds fading away to be replaced by their Multiversity counterparts. DC editorial being what it is, the current state of things is much less clear.
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May 18, 2016 23:14
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Future Quest feels like Parker's JLU but with different characters. I hope that he has more free range to tell the story he wants to tell now. Also Shaner is awesome and the book was fun.
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May 18, 2016 23:49
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Barry Convex posted:The actual pages in that issue very clearly showed the Convergence worlds fading away to be replaced by their Multiversity counterparts. I think it's still implied that there's space in the infinite multiverse for a pre-Flashpoint world to exist that it's Metropolis can return to and divert from it's crisis. I mean, if preventing COIE and morphing to modern day is the only thing, then that wouldn't be possible and would go against the point of the whole "We can now use everything from anywhere" messaging. Again, vague nonsense. It probably would've served them better to make it even more vague and simplified like the end of Secret Wars where the Richards family is just dreaming universes back. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 00:11 on May 19, 2016 |
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May 18, 2016 23:56
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Also: buried at the end of an article largely about his new films role, but it sounds like Johns may not be writing any of the ongoing Rebirth books. At least, not anymore. http://www.vulture.com/2016/05/geoff-johns-dc-films.html quote:That said, he’s currently taking a break from writing comics for a while. He penned a status-quo-altering one-shot issue called DC Universe: Rebirth, which comes out in a week and was the topic of conversation at today’s journalist gathering — but after that his hands will be too full. Whatever he does next, it’ll be rooted in a belief that DC needs to understand the deep-seated warmth and love that people feel toward its pantheon. “There’s a lot of emotional underpinning of the characters and the stories," he said. "It's not that people take it for granted. They’re just not as aware of it. But when it’s not there, you really feel that emptiness.” Teenage Fansub posted:I think it's still implied that there's space in the infinite multiverse for a pre-Flashpoint world to exist that it's Metropolis can return to and divert from it's crisis. I mean, if preventing COIE and morphing to modern day is the only thing, then that wouldn't be possible and would go against the point of the whole "We can now use everything from anywhere" messaging. There wasn't "we can use anywhere from everything" messaging in the issue itself, IIRC; that was DC editorial subsequently muddying the waters in interviews. The actual spread shows the Multiversity worlds in full color, with characters from the most analogous Convergence worlds hovering above them like ghosts. "Each world has evolved, but they all still exist." Of course, this is all pointless, but still. Barry Convex fucked around with this message at 00:54 on May 19, 2016 |
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May 19, 2016 00:45
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The Legend of Wonder Woman Volume 2 confirmed gently caress yeaas.
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BrianWilly posted:The Legend of Wonder Woman Volume 2 confirmed Between this and Johns not writing any of the new DC books this is a good day.
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May 19, 2016 03:11
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Okay, hate to drag out the new logo talk even more, but I figured it's possible they could use the new logo in a way that better pays tribute to the old '76 bullet logo in a tasteful and unobtrusive way. So I created a quick mock up of what I theorized, It isn't great, and I'm certainly not a graphic designer, but it conveys what I was thinking.
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May 19, 2016 03:37
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Boy, Mikel Janín's Poser models really show through on that Action Comics cover. Yuck.
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Teenage Fansub posted:I think it's still implied that there's space in the infinite multiverse for a pre-Flashpoint world to exist that it's Metropolis can return to and divert from it's crisis. I mean, if preventing COIE and morphing to modern day is the only thing, then that wouldn't be possible and would go against the point of the whole "We can now use everything from anywhere" messaging. Dad Superman's entire narrative has been that his world died and there's nothing to go back to. Obviously it's comics and saying anything is permanent is daft, but the only comic that's even touching on the issue is saying there's no more Pre-Flashpoint Earth.
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Two Tone Shoes posted:Dad Superman's entire narrative has been that his world died and there's nothing to go back to. I know Clark said in his first issue "At the time we didn't know we'd lost a world," but in the final issue of Convergence there's a whole group of pre-Flashpoint heroes in front of Braniac, who he returns, leaving only L+C, Paralax, COIE Supergirl and Flash and the E2ers. Maybe they convinced their Barry Allen not to go save his mom and Dick Grayson Batman's gonna warp in and go "Hey Superman. Everyone's cool back home. It's all good. Hey is that Nightwing me over there? I'mma go team up with him and paralyzed leg E2 Batman me for a bit. Later." e: Wikipedia concludes "The old worlds of the classic Multiverse live on in both their original versions and the modernized forms depicted in The Multiversity. All worlds and timelines now exist." with a link to a Jeff King interview, but that's enough looking back at dumb old Convergence for me for today! Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 06:20 on May 19, 2016 |
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May 19, 2016 05:45
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Teenage Fansub posted:I know Clark said in his first issue "At the time we didn't know we'd lost a world," but in the final issue of Convergence there's a whole group of pre-Flashpoint heroes in front of Braniac, who he returns, leaving only L+C, Paralax, COIE Supergirl and Flash and the E2ers. The darkest parts of my mind want like a two issue arc of Superdad going after history's greatest monster Barry Allen yelling at him to leave the time traveling to Rip Hunter, and The Legion. Followed in a huge twist instead of ripping his arms off he rips his legs off. Launching into a new series for Barry in being the fastest Oracle alive. 
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SomeJazzyRat posted:Okay, hate to drag out the new logo talk even more, but I figured it's possible they could use the new logo in a way that better pays tribute to the old '76 bullet logo in a tasteful and unobtrusive way. So I created a quick mock up of what I theorized, It looks 100x better tilted, especially small or at a distance.
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Jiro posted:The darkest parts of my mind want like a two issue arc of Superdad going after history's greatest monster Barry Allen yelling at him to leave the time traveling to Rip Hunter, and The Legion. Followed in a huge twist instead of ripping his arms off he rips his legs off. Launching into a new series for Barry in being the fastest Oracle alive. You should go read the original Flashpoint. It's basically about if Barry Allen was the only superhero but also he ended up being crippled so only had his super speed thinking to help humanity. Fastest Oracle Alive indeed.
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DC's REBIRTH Is 'Back To Basics' & 'Almost A Reset' According To DIDIO & LEE Some bits of note quote:Newsarama: Dan and Jim, with Rebirth being such a status quo-changing event, are you seeing this as something the “New 52” needs to move on? One of the tag lines was that "something's missing" from the “New 52.” Was that the way the “New 52” felt, and what brought about Rebirth?
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May 19, 2016 17:11
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So it's not a reboot...but it's a reboot.
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May 19, 2016 17:15
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quote:Nrama: But they're all sort of infused with Geoff Johns I guess. Gross!
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I hope some of the comics are good but I stopped paying attention to anything Dan DiDio and Jim Lee say a while ago. I would prefer them away from DC altogether.
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Yvonmukluk posted:So it's not a reboot...but it's a reboot. Nah, it's fairly clear from the solicitations that it's mostly a continuation of New 52 continuity, not a re-reboot or unreboot. It's much less clear how many caveats are contained in that "mostly," but we'll find out next week, I guess.
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I'm excited. It can't possibly be worse than it is now. 
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Norns posted:I'm excited. It can't possibly be worse than it is now. Look at this poor, naive little soul.
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May 19, 2016 18:43
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Hey, I got Tom King Batman. That's something at least.
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Yvonmukluk posted:So it's not a reboot...but it's a reboot. It's an editorial reboot but not a narrative continuity reboot.
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Norns posted:Hey, I got Tom King Batman. That's something at least. Never underestimate DC's ability to turn what should be a wonderful thing into a monkey's paw curse.
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Norns posted:I'm excited. It can't possibly be worse than it is now. By now the narrative is that DC hasn't done anything good since the 90's, or early 2000's or whenever Didio wasn't around, or whenever Johns didn't write anything, or something like that. Just accept it.
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Madkal posted:By now the narrative is that DC hasn't done anything good since the 90's, or early 2000's or whenever Didio wasn't around, or whenever Johns didn't write anything, or something like that. Just accept it. Now now. It''s when Identify Crisis was published. That's the turning point.
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Two Tone Shoes posted:You should go read the original Flashpoint. It's basically about if Barry Allen was the only superhero but also he ended up being crippled so only had his super speed thinking to help humanity. Fastest Oracle Alive indeed. There are two Flashpoints? Basically what I was getting at is Johns made me absolutely hate Barry and this whole bullshit of the most recent Flashpoint SHOULD have stayed as a Flash arc and not some half assed event that they've been trying to slowly undo since it happened.
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Jiro posted:There are two Flashpoints? Basically what I was getting at is Johns made me absolutely hate Barry and this whole bullshit of the most recent Flashpoint SHOULD have stayed as a Flash arc and not some half assed event that they've been trying to slowly undo since it happened. Yep, the original Flashpoint was an elseworld story in the 90s. Written by McGreal if you're interested. And yes, Johns' Flashpoint was supposed to be closer to Chain Lightning than Crisis, but editorial hijacked it to usher in a reboot because they didn't have anything to setup and it was a financial emergency.
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Norns posted:I'm excited. It can't possibly be worse than it is now. Yes what a horrible era we've been living in recently. I know I buy every issue of American Alien, Martian Manhunter, Midnighter, Omega Men, Grayson, Batman, Lois and Clark, Gotham Academy, Darkseid War, Batgirl, Black Canary, Robin, Doctor Fate, Batman/TMNT, Hellblazer (and probably a couple more fine comics I enjoy but can't recall ATM) and just puke and puke at the awfulness. I got three pages into Future Quest and had to throw it right in the garbage. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 22:05 on May 19, 2016 |
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Two Tone Shoes posted:A bunch of those aren't particularly good They aren't? Oops. My mistake.
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